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On 11/23/2023 at 6:27 PM, Mark_safc said:
People are clutching at straws suggesting that Glasto / See should cancel any tickets using hacks / bots. They have sent out confirmation emails to these people. Cancelling the tickets would be horrendous publicity. It's not their fault that See tickets has back door links etc.
It does however give substance to people's argument for some kind of fair ballot where each group of 6 people would have a fair / equal chance of securing tickets.
To go one step further, the festival don’t care either surrounding a little blip like this - the festival sold out 9 months prior through whichever method. SEE provide the infrastructure and as you say it’s not GFLs problem as long as it’s fixed for next time.
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7 hours ago, NorthernSoul52 said:
But again, on the basis of being an Other headliner for Glastonbury, it fits exactly with where she should be.
Let’s hope she doesn’t have a bitch fit and ruin the entire thing or I doubt she’ll be back again!
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2 hours ago, Simon247 said:
I rememeber the 'hack' that was posted on here one year that all you had to do was take the 's' out of the 'https' at the benging of the booking website and you went straight through to the booking page. That was a happy day, however the hacks are a little more sophisticated now.
Yeah, you'd be using a non-secure version of the site. These days most browsers insist on HTTPS but you can often manually bypass it.
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9 minutes ago, NotAnInsider said:
I think we are due a change - and I say that as someone who has been successful 5 ticket sales on the trot.
Success in the current system is becoming less about luck and more by the resources you have available; more devices, faster internet and more people. All things that favour a particular demographic at the expense of another which isn’t what the festival is about and isn’t good for its long term health.
I question how many are actually tying for tickets. If we take the 2.5 million the BBC claim but say the average person has 5 connections (taking into account some who are just one vs those who are very organised with 20+) then it could well be that there are fewer than 500,000 actual humans attempting.
I play the game; I have over 10 connections trying to bag me a ticket across various devices and networks and it’s successful so far. But I recognise it’s unfair and you have to acknowledge that there is an environmental impact to all this in terms of scaling up the server capacity.
Now there are huge groups of 100s of people who don’t know each other aside form ticket day and known exploits its feels like time for a change. I don’t think a queue or a ballot system is the answer, Glastonbury needs something bespoke. Perhaps something like:
- 9am on ticket day: log in, enter up to six registrations into a pre ballot. Individual registrations may only be in one entry and each person may only have one registration each.
- 9.30: ballots are randomly assigned the opportunity to pay a deposit, with payments processing in order.
It still rewards being there at the right time, but it removes the impact of having 10s of connections and 100s of people trying so that the little, less tech savvy person still has a chance. Whatever the answer maybe, it does feel the days of the current system being fit for purpose are numbered.
All good points, especially regarding people who don't know each other trying for tickets. But from the view of GFL, they sell the festival out 8 months ahead of the event (excluding resale) so why make any changes? They have a social media swell of disgruntled buyers for a few days and it dies down again.
Tickets are known to be hard to get and if anything I think this adds to their status, so arranging anything brand new would likely have bigger overheads when you take into account development costs etc.
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9 minutes ago, Lubic said:
If there are cheaters exploiting the system then the system isn't as good as it can be? Surely they should be called out on this and work to ensure it doesn't happen again?
I don't mind losing out to high demand, as I did last year. But I find it difficult putting so much effort into sales, resales, buying sim cards, chocolate bars etc etc and then losing out to cheats block buying tickets, which is what has happened here
For events of this magnitude, people will always find ways to beat the system. It's the same as anything that will outstrip demand, including sneakers etc. If people didn't modify their Hosts file or use internal links, they'll create Bots to buy tickets for them. People are always ahead of the curve and there's no way to make anything online completely fair or bulletproof.
You can bet they'll attempt to patch and prevent it next year, but it can depend on their priorities. I remember buying 2 PS5s when they were particularly rare by modifying the site source code (which was a known method, the Mail were reporting on it) and none of us had our orders rescinded or banned. As long as the event sells out there isn't always a need to fret over it.
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3 minutes ago, Toilet Duck said:
Ah she’s a legend! She has an open invite to come too, but prefers a nice relaxing spa weekend at this stage! Hard to get her to leave our daughter for more than a couple of nights anyway, I basically have to make her go, easier for us all to just go somewhere, but you’re right, you need to retain at least something of your former self. Kids are all consuming! Twins, even more so! Mate had two boys, decided to try again for a girl…got twin boys! He now comes to the festival for a kip!
Yeah, we try to make sure if I do an overnight, she does the same number etc - my wife is the same and the spa day will be my expense, but rightfully so!
Sod that, I’m done at two. We have twins both sides of the family so we’d probably end up with four! Eventually they’d take up most of my ticket buying slots!
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11 minutes ago, gooner1990 said:
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*IF* we were to have a baby and the due date was very close to Glastonbury its now easier for me to dip out of the festival as I've been quite a few times now so wouldn't the total disaster it perhaps would have been 10 years ago, and its always there for the following year. 🙂
The golden rule is no ‘celebrating’ 😉 this month for getting tickets for 2024 as you won’t be there in June!
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9 hours ago, Toilet Duck said:
Aye, other things end up taking precedence at various stages. We put our tickets back in the pot in the April the year we got married (too close to the wedding and it was getting stressful). Both went the year after. Following year our daughter arrived so I took a couple of years off. Came back when she was 2. My mother went ballistic! How dare I leave my wife and child to swan about in a field for a week! My wife piped up and says, leave him alone, he works non-stop and when he’s not working he’s looking after us, this is the only thing he does with his friends and they’ve always done it. I’ve no problem with it, so you shouldn’t either! I’m reminded regularly why I married her, but this was a humdinger. Funny thing is, it was the trigger for her and my mam getting really close (daughter close), even though they’d known each other for years before that.
That’s a fantastic attitude for your wife to have. I have year-old twins and I think it’s important to do your own thing occasionally for both Mum and Dad.
Last year, being local I stayed Wed-Sun and popped home a few times (I was at Ashcombe Park so could leave and return whenever) but in2024 we’re moving closer to Worthy Farm (one town over from the local weekend tickets annoyingly!) so I’ll commute daily to sort the kids and have a decent bed/shower/food.
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In for the 10th consecutive year. See you on the farm!
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1 minute ago, IBCanon said:
I did a mistake f**k. I got single tickets and i needed return tickets, How can I fix this?
You can't, you'll need to sort your own travel home - but congratulations!
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On 11/13/2023 at 10:14 AM, aj6658 said:
The whole refresh limit - how certain are we of this? I feel like people read it once somewhere and have repeated it since (I included) but what evidence do we have?
I know people in the past tested it out outside of T day but wouldn't they add more resources on the day?
Been going for 9 years (hopefully 10) and the refresh limit has never made any difference - I had a device running at 0.5sec per refresh and it got us in last year on the general sale. I don't believe there is a decoy holding page, the page that appears outside of sale times is because the system thinks that there must be a queue when people test it - so it throws up the holding page as a response.
That said, this is an entirely separate device on a different network in case there are consequences of the regular refresh - but never had an issue yet.
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6 minutes ago, BBC7BBCHEAVEN said:
Can try and change again? Or ask others to try. Or try from work on a break
Unlike those whose registration was removed and would have had no options.
This really isn't that difficult
I mean it’s more the fact they moved it less than four hours before the sale - they didn’t give people time to react. They would’ve known for ages that this would be a problem which would make changing plans easier. It’s a poor show from such a well established festival, more on timing than anything.
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7 minutes ago, JoeSchmo said:
*THIS* is also bad publicity.
Agree, but you could see this as an effort to resolve a mistake - which will shut people up somewhat.
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8 minutes ago, ProperTea said:
They must be shitting themselves about not selling out.
Nah there's no way this is the case - GFL have always been extremely risk adverse to bad publicity, which the registration issue would give them. It's a very poor U-turn with less than 4 hours to go until the Coach sale.
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47 minutes ago, incident said:
MAC addresses are not transmitted over the public Internet, nor are they visible from behind NAT.
Ah yes, I was thinking of LAN. Carry on!
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On 10/26/2023 at 4:49 PM, parsonjack said:
All we know for sure is that there is some sort of limiting, in which IP plays a part and seems to be triggered when 60 hits/minute is exceeded. That's not to say it is solely IP based, as that would put folks on shared wifi at a massive disadvantage, so there is something else in play to mitigate that. Best guess is that See's load-balancing plays a part, where hits are shared in turn across See's servers, and in some fashion minimises the chance of a single (shared) IP breaching the limit.
It's guesswork, with a bit of fact thrown in, but a limit of some sort does exist. Your setup generates 3.5 hits/second on a single IP.....over 3 times the limit.....there's nothing to prove or disprove that many of the holding pages you see aren't the 'fake' one, but if you've got tickets using it then at least some of your hits must have got through at exactly the right point to nab a free session.
My best guess would be MAC address as it’s entirely possible to see over IP. Just a note, I used a tool with over 60+ requests per minute last year and it worked like a charm.
My view on the holding page when refreshing the site on non ticket days is this probably just triggers the holding page to display to facilitate perceived traffic.
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26 minutes ago, WhatADin said:
So I reconfirmed yesterday, along with my husband's details. I got an email saying "Glastonbury Festival - Registration Details Updated".
Now I've just had an email flagging I need to reconfirm, which I assume is an automailer. However when I've tried to access my registration I'm not getting any emails through at all now though.
Don't worry, had the same email and also wondered - going to bet it's just an auto mailer as I only did mine yesterday evening.
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5 minutes ago, The Nal said:
What was the efests success percentage in the 22 resale? 90% ish? Or more?
And a huge drop in the 23 resale under this new system. I think they'll keep it. Sells out much quicker. See will be pushing for them to keep it anyway.
Plus all the money that they'll inevitably have put into designing that new system - makes no sense to backtrack now.
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12 minutes ago, dirtysteve said:
Has it been confirmed by any official festival channel that this is deffo the way they're doing the main sale this year? I've not seen it and the website doesn't mention it...
I can't think of a single reason why they wouldn't use it - seems like the new system to me, it seemed to work like clockwork and made the load far easier on their servers. Plus all the complaints from prior years of payments failing, pages timing out etc. Just seems extremely likely that they'll stay with this method. The festival is guaranteed to sell out and this method does it even faster.
IMO, it wouldn't make any sense to revert to the old method again now.
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I've now resigned to extremely unlikely to get a ticket, being the new method is the first people on the page are guaranteed a ticket, since it now sends a link to pay later. I could see the general sale being over in 10 minutes, perhaps 15 minutes for the coach one. The new method surely lowers chances massively.
In previous years, I had got us in through persistence and picking up cancelled/failed transactions right at the end - but these don't exist in the sale anymore. Being local, I'm hoping the Sunday day ticket sale will be easier.
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3 hours ago, Colorblindjames said:
Kasabian and Muse say hi.
Really? That’s all you took from that response? I think we’re in agreement she should never return then 😂
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21 hours ago, Colorblindjames said:
Lana was the highlight and the lowlight of the weekend.
Her performance and staging was fab. A beautiful, messy performance. The curfew was a lowlight and a disgrace. Especially if it's true old male rockers were allowed to overrun in the past.
Some of the responses slagging off LDR and her late arrival are a little bit sad. This is the music industry folks. Artists often misbehave. Do we want Glastonbury to be a sanitised, disneyfied experience? Are the main stages only to be populated by non threatening boys and girls?
IMO Glastonbury are 100% at fault here. First of all she should have headlined the pyramid anyway instead of the cock rock we got all weekend. (With the exception of Elton who deserved his send off.) Her music catalogue over the past 8 years is simply a stunning body of work.
Secondly selecting her slot to start at 10-30 and giving her only 1hr and 15 was asking for trouble if indeed there was a 12am curfew.
Thirdly Glastonbury showed great disrespect to their customers who for many like myself LDR was to be the highlight of the whole festival.
Nope, nowhere near a Glastonbury headliner and her attitude will just prevent her from coming back. She was acting like she’s so irreplaceable, she’s the only one who lost out (aside her fans) by dicking about with her hair and not listening to the organisers. The festival will continue to sell out year on year and have far better acts, she made no impact whatsoever and wasted a huge amount of time.
The production of the stage was lovely, but the actual set was incredibly dull. Looked like it had been lifted and shifted from an arena tour (other artists are guilty of this as well) with no consideration for a festival audience.
Contractually, she would’ve agreed to the set time and should’ve turned up to deliver her end - it’s a job at the end of the day and not some massive fanfare due to her fame.
if it’s true that she was shouting and screaming at the stage staff after, this is disgusting behaviour that should be condemned - I don’t care who you are or how popular your music is. Good riddance, hope she never comes back to Worthy Farm. Play stupid games win stupid prizes.
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Just now, CaledonianGonzo said:
Second year in a row there must be some substance to it. But I dunno of it locks him in to come on and do......Stan.
I can’t see it personally as it was a bonus track on Curtain Call, but he is also good friends with Elton
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He also travelled all the way to Dubai to play at Sandstorm Festival and U-turned at the last minute. I'm surprised people and organisers work with him as he wastes a huge amount of time/money.
From a recent IG post, it sounds like the collab album will be delayed indefinitely until two notorious prisoners are released. I wouldn't be surprised if the album joins 5+ others that never came out, which is a shame as it sounds better than I expected.