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No, and ironically the schism in Cymru/Wales that has traditionally divided Nationalists/Unionists is the language (which isn't an issue in Scotland as, in spite of much effort and money, Scottish Gaelic is a dead language). Welsh/Cymraeg speakers have formed the bedrock of support for the separatist leaning Plaid (although this has changed since the Assembly) whereas left-leaning English speakers have looked towards the westminster centered labour party. If there hadn't been the language issue I think Cymru/Wales nationalists may have followed the same aspirational path as Scotland but Welsh nationalists have been, perhaps unfairly, perceievd as a largely rural party of 'Cymraeg speakers and Eisteddfods' by the English speakers in the industrial heartlands of Wales.
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One thing I will say though if Scotland does get independence then I would expect Wales and Northern Ireland to follow not far behind.
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On election night they had the chairman of the lib dems saying that as a result of the tories actions in the referendum campaign they said they wouldnt be supporting any tory bills not in the coalition agreement. This would include the NHS reform bill...
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The more this goes on the more I have realised how much I think there shouldnt be offical campaigns in referendums. The electoral commission should produce litratuer and if intrested parties think its biased or dosent explain fully what they want put across they should be able to challenge it with the electoral commission being the only people alowed to 'campaign' - that was we would actuly get honnist arguments and a fair vote on the question at hand.
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So I have been trying to get all the posts back here to 0. Turns out your only aloud a certan amount of negatives in a day. I like that, an artifical limit to your negativity...
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Unfortuantly there is also an articial limit on positivity as well...
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I was looking at this, which seems to be saying that when a party is eliminated (it could be the BNP, or the Greens... or whoever), it's the second choice of whoever voted for that party that comes into play.
which doesn't seem right to me.. it's like a reward for voting for the losers....
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Every Glastonbury they give away £2 million to charity and Eavis pays himself £65,0000. The rest is obviously spread out with all the costs and staff.
You have to remember though, with no Melvin Benn involvement there would be no Glastonbury so really whatever FR are being paid it's worthwhile.
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Exactly. I agree with mrtourette, I think FR gets a flat fee but it's just to help with infrstructure (the fence etc) and they have nothing to do with bookings. The donations to charity come from the Eavis' take.
As for the idea of R/L seeing itself in competition with Glastonbury, that may well make sense on a lot of levels. I'm probably extrapolating my personal experience too far but this'll be the 3rd year I've done both. They compliment each other as being so far apart it's more affordable to do both, R/L is just about a bands schedule as opposed to the more wide-ranging experience at Glastonbury, and R/L has a more rock angle. If R/L has a few acts not at Glastonbury (e.g. the Strokes, Muse, Pulp, Offspring, The National) it makes it look very attractive as a second fest of the summer.
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What!? Glasto is ran by Michael Eavis' company Glastonbury Festivals Ltd. Melvin Benn is a promoter of Glastonbury but he is not from the same company as Eavis.
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We're talking about the old firm not the specific teams and around the world not just the UK.
I see a Celtic shirt in a Irish pub in New York as the same thing as seeing a statue of Vishnu in Indian restaurant to be honest, just part of ther decor.
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I was similarly upset when I found out Black Rebel Motorcycle Club weren't actually a motorcycle club led by Marlon Brando and it's interesting to see the only people in the thread saying the Old Firm are huge around the world are the scots.
As for the band Lars talking about being a thug is very much typical and probably just went with the name as it sounds thuggish, I think he supports Millwall if I remember correctly.
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Is there a problem with that link in the sense it doesn't take into account the future impact of Camoron's gerrymandering? In fact, isn't it somewhat unreasonable to offer people an alternative voting system based on a set of circumstances and then when they've decided change the circumstances?
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For a hotel try www.booking.com
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I think I explained my view in another thread but I was against it, then went undecided and have come round based on two ideas.
One was a discussion with my Grandad, his take on it was the tories are oposing it and if its bad for them its good for us.
Secondly I think it will hinder the united right in the country. I think the population is more progressive but the right wing is more organised so they end up in power while the progressive sides aruge amoungst themselves. AV will mean parlement should more reflect his progressiv view.
Also you may enjoy having a look at this website - http://www.voterpower.org.uk/ if you put your postcode in it will tell you how it will change your constuancy ie how much more marginal it will make it...
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I'm asking how you know what is left and right according to this spectrum if your starting point is inseperable from the material reality you live under?
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What was the gaff on the mail? I havent seen it today...
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classic liberalism is liberalism, (neo means after) neo liberalism is crony capitalism or corporatism. You generally find the "neo" movements distort the ideals of the first i.e Keynesianism states the government should run a deficit during a recession and then a surplus during the good times, we've just had 10 years of neo-Keynesianism where the government has run a deficit during the good times and an enormous deficit during the recession
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Aren't all systems capitalist? they just vary between the amount of free market capitalism and state capitalism that exists.. hmm maybe Cambodia 1975 -78 wasn't but systems like that don't tend to last too long. Your never going to get 100% state capitalism as black markets will always spring up and equally your never going to get 100% free market, Hong Kong is probably the closest we've seen.
I'm also struggling with some of the terms being thrown around, liberal traditionally means small government but the American term refers to the left. Equally I'm struggling with Anarchists arguing for a bigger state...
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I'm well aware of that.
But all the same, if the election had ended with what would have been viewed as chaos by a significant number of the electorate, because a govt with the authority to push thru policy hadn't come of it (I'm meaning a minority govt), then those who viewed it as chaos would have voted differently in a subsequent election, to avoid that chaos.
Every indicator in the period between the election and the Tories and LibDims forming their coalition indicated that if they hadn't have formed that coalition and they'd have been another election, then the tories would have been the beneficiaries of that.
Remember, our electoral system means that majority opinion is nothing to do with the result that comes from any election. The system has always been designed to benefit the tories and it still does - which is precisely why the tories would never have agreed to a referendum on PR as they have for AV. And they've only agreed to a referendum on AV because they know it's unlikely that AV will win, because the people want PR and not the "grubby little compromise" of AV.
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As is Conservativism. As is the Labour movement. As is Liberal Democracy. So why is Social Democracy assigned a fixed political point? Why is it free of political sway and the others aren't?
Also, if you're going to suggest that there are fixed ideological points of reference that underpin political parties, then surely you need a fixed material point too?
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So what are the essentials of big liberal democratic government that are going to see a fundamental redistribution of resources on both a national and international level?
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Like Egypt and Libya and a couple of middle class greens saving a forest
Well done... Well done
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Oaf being a prick as usual.. no idea why you even bothered coming back here tbh
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