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When was Armand Hammer added to Friday line-up?
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2 hours ago, Etaish said:
what albums then should i be doing my homework on?
Looking at setlists from earlier this year when not specifically with Kenny Segal he seems to cover the whole range of his discography. More from Aethiopes than anything, a couple from Maps and one or two Armand Hammer. Given how prolific he is, I wouldn't be surprised if there isn't a new album by June!
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31 minutes ago, Whos3000_ said:
the depth of bily woods discography is insane. high class booking. I just wonder if he will also play the new armand hammer album
Pretty sure he'll play whatever he likes with or without a soundcheck, but guessing not Maps or AH. Can't believe he is in the tiniest font and is def in my top 5 'must sees'.
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1 hour ago, Drums Please Fab said:
Now in conjunction with listening to these bands....Do I have to wikipedia each artist as I listen and make sure they haven't slapped the wife around in the past, paid all their parking tickets on time and never kicked a dog?
Or can I just tap my toes when I hear a beat that I like regardless of who's making the beat?
I realise that you are prodding for a reaction*, but the phrase 'slapped the wife around' has no place on this forum and neither does equating violent, domestic abuse with non payment of parking fines.
*Is this what the young people call trolling?
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31 minutes ago, scatteredscreens said:
I think they knocked it out of the park on the line up, got 36 acts listed on what i want to see and that's without digging deeper. A lot of quality. Always keep expectations in check and dont bank on your faves being at the fest. I wanted to catch The Smile so i bought a ticket in case something like this happened, cant blame the festival for making people put too much faith in acts being there.
Swings and roundabouts, I guess. I had about 30 realistic targets, Kali Uchis, Lil Yachty, Tainy etc, (not Tom Waits, Kate Bush or Talking Heads!) and I've ended up with only Ammarae, Pulp and Billy Woods. FKA Twigs and Beth Gibbons are unexpected bonuses but despite having a ticket I am struggling to justify hotels and travel for that line up.
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Nothing against any of the artists per se, but The National, Phoenix. Disclosure and Charli XCX are not special enough for such a quick return. Replace those with (for example) Kylie, Kali, New Jeans, Tainy or any available or affordable artists in some different genres and the line up suddenly looks a bit less one dimensional and a bit more quirky and Primavera. I think there are some quite lazy bookings here.
I take back that the line up is awful. It is not awful, but really lacks that Primavera spark. I also take back that the line up reveal was awful. I was wrong again. It was f***ing awful and all concerned should be sacked.
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My musical dreams are in tatters as is my 10 year relationship with Primavera Sound after that awful line up reveal of an awful line up. Yes, awful. OK we can all feel disappointed if the names we wanted are not there, but my issue with this line up is its incredible lack of variety and imagination. There are some interesting things here but there is also a lot of very generation specific mediocrity. Nearly all of those larger font names are well past their sell by date, but more importantly where is the stuff that will keep young people interested in the brand and therefore keep it sustainable? Where is the good reggaeton/trap/Latin stuff? Where is the good pop stuff? Where is the Afrobeats? the K Pop? the J Pop? Where is the unexpected legend? or even the unexpected wrong fit curveball? I'm sorry but I just find this line up so monotone, unadventurous and so unPrimavera.
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Hey guys, this is your job. You don't get to waste an hour of my time telling me about your job. I'm switching off and this is the dullest, biggest turn off line up drop ever. 'Self satisfied, smug' as the great Mark E Smith once said.
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Ready or not? Fugees?
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Based on a very simplistic 'translation' of this year's topliners; how feasible do you think something like this could be?
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Sorry, but I don’t understand why claiming ignorance of one of the biggest Spanish speaking artists in the world (Bad Bunny) when you are clearly interested in music and planning to go to a festival in Barcelona, is considered funny or even a virtue. Sadly, after headlining Coachella with a really great set, releasing one of the best reggaeton albums ever (Un Verano Sin Ti, which is the perfect starting point if genuinely interested), working with a host of international artists (Drake, Gorillaz, Rosalia etc) and having a huge sell out stadium tour of the US and Latin America, I fear the Bunny is now too big for Primavera, and that is a huge pity. He certainly fits the Primavera brand. (One of Pitchfork’s albums of the year).
Similarly, C Tangana, is not an ‘easy’ option as the Spanish crowd pleaser. According to a new film, Esta Ambicion Desmedida, his last tour, which was absolutely stupendous for anyone with a love of music, almost bankrupted him. I live in hope of a one-off Primavera slot but can’t see him doing a full tour for a while.
I love The Cure to pieces, having first seen them in the late 70’s in Eric’s Liverpool; but would be far more excited about Bad Bunny or C Tangana headlining than Mr Smith and Co. I really hope Primavera keeps pushing the emphasis on the new rather than the past and hope that this year (my 7th) will have a truly exciting forward-looking bill in terms of alternative hip hop, Latin music, K & J pop and Afrobeats. (OK and because I’m nice, some blokes playing guitars too if you insist).
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Any thoughts on Burna Boy or Asake as possible Afrobeats top tier? Also Amaarae and a second chance for Tems? From alternative hip hop what chance Billy Woods or McKinley Dixon? Spanish/Latin names in mix must be Rauw Alejandro, Quevedo, Bizarrap, Kali Uchis and Karol G? And in terms of very oldies, I see The Only Ones, were down to do some gigs recently. No idea really but I like the speculation as we move into autumn.
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Ticket bought. Please can I have Pulp, Missy Elliott, C Tangana, Iggy Pop, Kali Uchis, Lil Yachty, Amaarae, Tems, Squid oh and Frank Ocean, Bad Bunny and Portishead as usual.
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I don't like the phrase when talking about music or Primavera but in the past 2 years there seems to be a definite 'marketing strategy'. That appears to be to pack the Thursday with more alternative/muso/Pitchfork stuff to attract an international audience and traditional Primavera supporters in Spain. Keep these people happy and interested by spreading 'interesting' stuff throughout days 2 and 3 but go for more mainstream headliners on Friday and then aim at a more pop/Spanish language focus for Saturday. This makes sense given that Thursday and Friday are normal work days in Spain and most interested locals would look at Saturday as the best day to attend if not doing the full festival. If that is the strategy, then something like Pulp and P J Harvey headlining Thursday would be feasible. Perhaps The Cure and Travis Scott on Friday then someone like Robyn or SZA on the Saturday with a big Spanish name. Hopefully this would be C Tangana if he has new material and is touring next year. I saw him twice last year on the El Madileno tour; it was a stunning show, would easily sell out Saturday and would also give him more access to an international audience. Obvs my record at predicting Primavera headliners is diabolical so none of this will happen.
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Pretty gutted with that switch as the Sevdaliza - St Vincent - Kelela - Tokischa - Rosalia run was pretty much a highlight for me. Still, lots of people seem happy. Liturgy are just not going to fit into that run, so it will be welcome chill time. Takes all sorts doesn't it?
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Sorry people, I did not frame that previous post very well. I just feel that there is so much good stuff on this year that a different approach to preparing for the inevitable clashes is to think about acts that I really won't mind missing. No offence intended to any acts mentioned, I certainly don't 'hate' any of the artists.
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OK, so apart from the obvious (Halsey, Ghost, Moldy Peaches, Bad Religion, Calvin Harris and War On Drugs) which are the THREE acts that you hope to avoid so much that it is as if they are not even there? I'll start you off with... Central Cee, Bleachers and Charlotte De Witte.
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damn. that coachella lineup is so good. bunny ,ocean, rosalia my dream trio.
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For anyone struggling with Barcelona flight prices, it is worth knowing that the French train company Ouigo (Es) now run fast budget trains between Barcelona and Madrid. Prices can be as low as 9 euros one way depending on times and popularity. Journey is under 2 hours, website is pretty easy to use and I've found them to be reliable. Could give you a few more options,( i.e. flying in and out of Madrid) if time is not too pressing
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13 hours ago, pipan said:
Still analyzing Thurdsday's line-up and this is starting to look like a must-see. 🙂
That looks fun. Thursday is insanely good and keeps getting better, I'm well into double figures of must-sees, which I know I won't manage and I'm quite pleased that Halsey is there for non clash purposes!
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3 minutes ago, Valbork said:
Pretty sure that Jarvis said in all the announcement blurb, that Pulp were a bit lazy and would only be doing UK and Ireland this year.
This was how NME reported it. When asked how extensive their touring plans were by BBC Radio 6 Music‘s Lauren Laverne, Cocker said, “This country is the country that made Pulp famous, where we sold most records and where we knew most people.” He added: “I’m sure that we’ll probably play in other places around the world, but it just seemed appropriate to do it here first.”
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5 minutes ago, xxialac said:
For me the big miss was Pulp but then at least they got Blur and we don't even know if Pulp is touring Europe in Spring.
Pretty sure that Jarvis said in all the announcement blurb, that Pulp were a bit lazy and would only be doing UK and Ireland this year.
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I wish everyone moaning about how weak/mainstream/non-Primavera this year's line-up is; would suggest the artists, that we know are touring in early summer 2023, that should have been included to make this acceptable to their impeccable standards.
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Absolutely loving this line up. Reading some of these comments, I just don't know what some people want or expect. I saw Rosalia earlier this week in Portugal, it was a great show and she is a worthy headliner, especially at a Spanish festival. Eddie Palmiera's album, Superimposition, is considered one of the best Latin albums of all time. Legend. FKA Twigs, Caroline Polachek, St Vincent, Tokischa, Maggie Rogers, Kelela and Charlotte de Witte, is a very strong female presence high up in a line up. John Cale and Laurie Anderson = more legends. And then Jockstrap and Death Grips and that is just Saturday...
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Perhaps struggling to convince Lana Del Rey's people that having Disclosure coming on after her does not make them headliners and is not a snub?