Chad888

It's got to be a generational thing, 15 years ago club DJs used to play the banger Dance tracks as a penultimate set, and then finish the night with slow anthems that every drunk person can hook up with their pull, or have arms round mates to sway back and forth and sing along. Fred Again gets everyone jumping, happy, dancing, brings up the atmosphere. Lana comes in to knock them down and have them hugging each other in melancholic tears and emotion. But I guess times have changed. Its a shame, it makes me feel old, but let's get on with the new era.

I am fully with you, and this has been the drum I've banged for the last 4 years. They haven't been giving an undercard to enjoy and instead everybody sits in the campsite drinking and getting more wound up, then after the final show they unleash that pent up frustration by rioting/burning things down. When you look at 2018 festival, it was derided as awful at the time, and it really started the kick off into the 'end times' and regeneration of the festival. Looking back at the lineup, it was actually quite stacked with artists that made it big. Most people on here responding to my complaining always said "it just shows FRs ability at spotting talent, they can tell who will be big and thats a bonus". BMTH and Biffy Clyro starting out playing 10th Main Stage is a far different band and show to BMTH and Biffy headliners.

Lacking big names on the undercard TODAY. I think in 20 years people will be looking at this lineup and say how stacked it was, because 10 or so names have headlined and others are big well known names that would shift tickets in 2044. Back in 2004 you had Razlorlight 7th down, The Streets 5th down, Bloc Party opening R1 stage, Alexisonfire on their Pit stage, and Kaiser Chiefs on the introducing stage.

Just saw Lanas Coachella set, it's a big upset that she is going to be playing while the sun's up. I'd think Fred's set partying while the sun sets, and then Lana to bring out that end of the night melancholy would be so much better. It'll be like nightclub DJs opening the night with Mr Brightside!

Edit - seen already discussed above and been ruled out. Twenty One Pilots new album comes out in 2-months. Possible 25 headliner? Latest single Next Semester really sounds like a cross between 70's British Punk, and early 00's Fallout Boy, PatD! type pop rock. Looks like a swing away from their American-skater anthem music.

Courteeners ARE popular. It is because they have one song that everybody knows, an anthem song that is played and chanted at every club student night, that everybody has heard and danced to for the last 16-years. BUT The conversation around them will go: "what music do you like?" "I like indie music really; Arctic Monkeys, Kasabian, Oasis, Sam Fender, Courteeners..." "Oh, you like Courteeners? Which songs?" "Not nineteen forever... umm..." "Any others?" "I...don't think I know any others"

Says he is in Bristol on Sunday 25th, Newcastle on Wednesday 21st

This is exactly it. In 30-years when BMTH is headlining and Post Malone is on the Chevron Stage, I think we will be a little bemused to hear kids of the time moaning that they are clashing because they are completely different genres to us now, but in 2050 they will be old school nostalgia acts, just as a lot of the fans of Greenday, Blink, RATM etc also listen to old school Eminem, Jay Z in the same playlist. And it seems wild to me now, our current music to 2050 is the same timeframe as what Blink is to us now.

I hope so. Acts like them, with their wide range of past offences and current ongoing legal troubles should not be given a spotlight in any circumstance. I do think an act like Run the Jewels would be much better under them 'lights', on that stage. Edit - or yeah, like Andrew said, Killer Mike.

Eh? ... it literally is.

Then the years before, christ. The tent burning, the looting, the campsite warfare.

Just saw Andre's link to the Chevron stage. 1. It is open air but with LED lights on a mesh cover, so it is effectively outdoors... if it is raining, that will be a horrible experience, if it is sunny then you will literally just see the LED lights for the last act (following regular scheduling). 2. FR have said that people can enjoy the stage and dance to the early hours, we assume Prodigy are clashing with Blink because of licensing hours, but could Prodigy et al be on at an agreed later time until early hours? Perhaps the festival has agreed it with the council following the riots, suggesting the children need to be occupied.

lol what? It is literally all of the acts from the 2024 poster placed into the 2017 poster to judge what is missing in comparison...

Well the fact it has to be clarified on Twitter too proves its a complete oversight on the companies behalf, and even if they didn't mean to, they have named the new stage after a warmongering company that funded the Nazis and were key in lobbying for the Middle East destabalisation campaign that has left hundreds of thousands of civillians and military personnel dead. F it, lets call the new Radio 1 stage the "Al Queda stage" but "what a load of waffle, its nothing to do with the terrorist group, its probably named after 3 guys Alan, Quentin, and Dave".

Quite clearly not, but "a shape or something" references shape of the stage, shape of the tent, formation of the lighting, the logo ...

I likely have got it wrong if Chevron aren't sponsors, and it is a shape or something ... but these kind of things, stage names etc are always sponsored. We've had NME, Virgin, BBC, Bacardi. I can't see an American Megacorp like Live Nation missing an opportunity to sell naming rights to anybody willing to buy. Hopefully Chevron is just a placeholder name for the V shaped tent, and we see it with a better and more sustainable partner than the Nazi funding Standard Oil (ESSO in the UK).

What are peoples thoughts on Standard Oil sponsoring the festival, through its Chevron subsidary...? Considering the environmental impact has been a huge deal lately, with the river pollution, non recyclable plastic waste, green camping scheme being huge drives ... it seems a little conflicting having a sponsor that was largely responsible for providing funding to the Nazis in WW2, and was one of the major lobbyists to get Western involvement in the Middle East (and then helped fund the largest military base in the world in Iraq, before setting up an oil refinery right inside its walls), and is now one of the largest lobbying organisations against green energy...

Different crowds though really, and different sized festivals. Prodigy are nowhere near big enough or relevant enough to headline R&L anymore, at least not since around 2010, its a completely new generation of attendees. We are now talking about acts like Noah Kahan and Olivia Rodrigo as headliners. Same with how Digga D is headlining a festival elsewhere, but is 3rd down? on the old Dance stage?

I put the lineup into the old style poster format (cba to change dates or stage names etc), guess we still have a LOT more acts to be announced. I wanted to see what we are still missing from what we used to have almost 10 years ago now. 5 more for Main Stage, 25 for R1 stage, 8 for Dance (Chevron) 16 for FR plus probably another 90 across the other unannounced stages (1xtra, pit, alternative, introducing..)

I'm shocked the festival has booked him, knowing his involvement in the murder of another rapper, which he is currently on trial for.

A couple of things I've noticed with the announcement: 1. Seems to be the end of the US xanax rap "Lil ..... " acts. 2. The dance acts seem to be the mellow Ibiza lounge types. 3. There's a complete shift away from the drill and British rap acts. 4. The lineup seems to have moved in a new direction away from BBC Radio 1, V-fest, zeitgeist teen acts, and towards garage band indie punk and rock acts. 5. There are acts through the undercard that you will enjoy if you enjoy the headliners. 6. There are acts that will be headlining in 5 or 10 years playing, not filled with one hit soundcloud and tik tok wonders. I think this is the festival trying to move to a more mature audience. Not the 1xtra tent stabbings, Not the campfire riots and tent burnings, Not the broke 16 year olds sitting in a campsite all day not spending a penny in an empty arena. This is tailored to music lovers who want to go all day and watch great live bands. The last few years it's all got a bit grimey, moody, angsty, people turning up just to cause trouble. Seems to be a huge step from that and back to the music.

Could it be Lana is the "headliner", 21 Savage is the sub .. and Fred close the stage as a late night DJ set?

So we have in old money: 1 x Main Stage (7 acts) 1 x Dance Stage (Chevron 7 acts) 1 x Radio 1 Stage (Big tent 6 acts) 1 x FR tent (9 acts) So now we're down 1xtra, pit, lockup .. assuming alternative and introducing are the stages still to be announced.

Taking away whos already been announced, that is a very poor announcement for the casual music fan that aren't dedicated listeners to every upcoming artist and genre like [the people that frequently spend all their free time a music centric forum]. Wombats, Two Door, Fontaines DC, Bru-C ... that's pretty much the extent of the announcement for broadly known/liked acts