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  1. 1 hour ago, ian the worm said:

    PIty it was a mud bath under foot and didn't open on Tuesday or Wednesday.  I used Sams a lot more this year.  Both good.  Both recommended. 

    I saw Sams but didn't try it. Is sam's sauna about the same size as lost horizons? Same kind of setup? 

  2. 4 minutes ago, Cornelius_Fudge said:

    Yeah they could definitely taper the finish times so they all finished at different times. West Holts by 11:15, Other Stage 11:30, Pyramid 11:45. The smaller stages by 11. 

    That way West Holts people could head straight in, followed by the Other and Pyramid. 

    15 minutes doesn't sound a lot but when there's space to walk you can easily get from Dairy Ground in the west to the West Holts area.

    Yeah or just let some other stages go late. I know some fests I've been to purposely do that to allow the stagger better. Throw a big electronic artist on Other Stage until 2am keeps a huge party going at one part of the festival. 

     

    Although I know they have noise ordinances that probably prevent this. :( Skrillex raging the Other from 11-2am would suck up a ton of people though.

  3. I said this in another thread but... Saturday night at The Temple I had a spliff going in line. I walk in and we walk down to the middle. I begin putting it out I still had a lot left so was going to save it. A security guard standing near the exit on the stairs comes over and grabs it out of my hands and pulls me over and starts smelling it. He goes "Is this is a spliff?!" I am very taken back at first it was really well done and super believable. I tell him I have nothing on me and I had no idea it was a big deal at all. We go back and forth for a bit and eventually he starts trying to say the word "tax" but I couldn't understand him. It came out text and I was like "What are you talking about you want me to text you?" He yells "Tax!" I still didn't understand and this happened like 4 times. In hindsight it is so hilarious if I knew what was going on I wish I did it more for fun. Anyway during this long back and forth without hearing each other I start getting my wits about me. At first it was all happening so fast and now it was slowing down. I've been to more shows than I could ever count and I know at a festival like this there is NO way I'm getting thrown out for half of a spliff. It just won't happen, doesn't happen and then that is when I finally made out his word "Tax!". 

     

    At this point I say something to the effect, "Are you kidding me?" I reach in my pocket and grab all the coins I had which was about 5 pounds and hold them out. "Mate I'll buy you a ffking pint that is not the problem."  As I do that he reaches his hand all sneakily kind of like he wouldn't want other security to see into the same pocket I took my coins out. To my amazement he pulls his hand back out and says, "Is that all you got?". I really don't want him in any of my other 3 pockets. Finally understanding the situation I proceed to explain to him these types of actions using power to manipulate another person's existence creates so much pain in the world and I can't believe he was trying to do that at Glastonbury. I start going into a tirade about of all places why would he enforce anything that wasn't hurting another person at Glastonbury, freedom, walls etc. My Mother would of been proud of my lecturing skills at this point (thanks Mom!). 

     

    He pushes the coins back and hands me my spliff. Says, "Sorry mate you have to understand it is what us locals do to help get by. No hard feelings." 

     

    I've read about shakedowns at other fests and never been part of one. The dude just wanted money or drugs. Was super surreal and I learned a whole lot for the future. 

  4. 6 minutes ago, FuzzyDunlop said:

    Flaming Lips headlining The Other....

    I was very sunburnt and depressed about it on the Friday. So I decided to eat pills and drink a shitload of cider all day. By 8pm, Im dehydrated and pretty fucked. 

    Me - "I want to watch the flaming lips"

    My mates - "We want to watch Gorilliaz"

    Me "I feel pretty faint..." 

    Mates "Stay here, watch the Gorillaz and we will look after you" passes me water.

    11:15 ish - 

    Mates -  "This is fucking shit. We are off to watch Fatboy slim"

    So we go there... see fuck all cos we are too far back.

    5 days later...

    Me - Watches The Flaming Lips back, amazing... I hate everyone.

    Still never seen them.

     

    First and second time I saw them all my mates didn't want to see them both times at festivals. First time after the show they wanted to see sucked we caught half a set from WAY back and I was so memorized... Second time I won the debate but we got there late saw them from SO FAR back again and it was so good... Third time I said fuck the mates and saw them front row center Red Rocks and was the best show I've ever been to. They did Soft Bulletin with the symphony. I am forever a Lips fan. Point is a lot of people don't get their music as it is "Okay" in headphones and just amazing live so ignore those mates next time! Took me three tries to figure that out.  

  5. Sadly I have three.. The only problem with not carrying a phone at Glasto didn't get anyone's details:

    1: One guy with his wife and daughter. We met in the Rocket Lounge on Thursday night for dinner. He is even an efester already.

    2: The husband and wife Saturday we watched the sunrise at Stone Circle together. They work the ceramics tent in the craftsfield. 

    3: the 4 dudes in the pit for Coldplay. We were about dead center sharing their gin and tonic and my whiskey. 

  6. I used a small screw driver and got mine and my partners off without issue. Just start prying underneath and you can get the metal to slide off. Does take a lot of pressure though. We collect all our wristbands. Glsato's was actually much easier to get off than the plastic clasps that lock down. Had to break those open with a hammer 

  7. All I know is I sure would not want the responsibility of a flare in that environment. Barely can handle the responsibility of not spilling my beer.

  8. 1 hour ago, DeanoL said:

    At home, do you take all your rubbish to the processing centre yourself, or do you leave it for the binmen to collect? Yes, you pay council tax that pays for that collection, but if you paid that and didn't leave a bin out, the council would have more money to spend on schools.

    Yes, people paying £230 for their fun time do consider that time more important that someone else who is being paid per hour to clean it up. It's not nice but it does make sense.

    And when Eavis says "I wish people would drink less and do less drugs", where's the common respect and decency gone for that request? When he says "don't arrive in a campervan yet" and people ignore it, where's the common decency gone for that request? There are private security searches for drugs on the site. That's not the police, that's the festival itself saying "don't bring drugs" and taking them off people if they do. And yet people still bring them on mass. Where's the respect there?

    It's really easy to argue "common respect and decency" when it's something you'd do anyway. And very easy to ignore the requests of the festival when it's asking you to do something you don't like.

    Probably. When tickets cost £230 + travel it's fair to say the festival is going to attract people with disposable income. There will be others who do have to scrape together every last penny to afford the festival as their one holiday of the year and again that's different. Equally there will be people who can only go because they make the money back working for the clean-up crew after the festival, and would be out of a job if everyone took their stuff home. There's always an effect somewhere.

    As for at home and my rubbish we have street cleaners here that go around everyday in carts and clean up trash all over the neighborhood and the city. Over 30% of my income goes to pay for services like these. It does not make any sense just because large monetary sums of money were spent that I am now disconnected from my social responsibility because the man outside in the cart is being paid $8 an hour to cleanup my waste while I make significantly more thus can afford higher taxes to deal with it. It means I should still clean up my ffking trash like a respectful inhabitant on this planet. I go and sort my stuff into various recycle bins that private companies then pick up and my neighbors get to walk out of their house not staring at piles of my waste. 

    f you are trying to say because people disrespect the farm in tons of different ways it is okay to disrespect it further by being lazy wasteful human beings I'm not quite sure it is the best argument. The spirit of Glastonbury is one of progressive ideals, trying to find ways to be better humans, working on ways to open our minds about the environment around us. 

    It is really easy to argue "common respect and decency" on all these levels. I don't think any of us are saying we should exclude one or another. This is a thread about wasteful shit being left behind. We can start another about the selfish egotistical arseholes that arrived early in a campervan when told not to as well and helped jam up traffic for 6 hours as they got towed. That works too. It doesn't lessen one social responsibility because other people break another. 

  9. 26 minutes ago, chubbz said:

    To be fair I think when you can wander around the site and pay £5 for a pint or £8 for a jacket potato you have to accept that people don't see it as some kind of favour that the Eavis' do but as a huge money spinning enterprise. People pay hundreds of pounds for tickets and probably assume that the festival can afford to pay people to clear away such cap (which, seemingly, they do). 

    It is a personal choice to buy a ticket and a a personal choice to buy a beer or food. The other part is it is a personal choice to be a lazy human being and piss all over trash knowing full well Eavis won't be picking up that trash bag but some other person making 8 pounds an hour will. I think you hit it on the head with people don't see it as a favour because money is being made but that boggles my mind. It is the only fest I've been to where you can have open fire, where there are 100's of food options and drink options, so many stages it is impossible to see them all, you get to freaking camp in the same area as the music, you can bring your own booze not only to your camp but to any stage anywhere, the art installations are immense... Glastonbury tickets are the same price as Cochella, Lollapolloza, Sasquatch, Bonnaroo etc and has WAY more of everything. I feel grateful I can walk into like 20 different bars and buy different drinks and eat so much variety of food in the middle of a massive festival. Eavis did me a favour that is for sure and I did a favour to the regular joe blow who had to go clean up that shiz.  

     

  10. 3 hours ago, DeanoL said:

    There's also pure physical exhaustion, or the extra mud making it harder to carry stuff to the point of being impossible for some. Especially those taking public transport don't have the option of taking multiple trips. I'm always loathe to call people lazy when there may be actual physical factors too.

    That said, no excuse for not taking the thing down and putting it in the bag at least.

    I disagree with this wholeheartedly. It simply takes effort and planning. If you are physically exhausted and know you have to leave the next day then rest understanding you need to pack the shiz out. Or camp closer to the gate if you do not have the capacity to hike stuff out. Or like us we planned for months logistics of how to get our kit small enough to take in one load. 

    The bottom line is it is simply lazy people that find their fun time more important than another person's time who has to clean up their mess. Whether it is physical laziness, mental laziness with regards to planning or just sheer ego that their fun time is more valuable than someone else's time. There was a wonderful bloke in South Park who gave a lady a few words. On the way out she was pissing all over a trash bag in what I suspect was an attempt to shave a few minutes to get out quicker rather than walking to the loos. He said something to the effect, "So you find it okay to piss all over that shiz and then leave it there for some other human being to clean up for you?" and really it is just the truth. When someone leaves filth, mess, and trash all you are doing is passing your problems on to someone one else probably less fortunate. It is just sad. 

     

  11. I've had numbness many times on big backpacking expeditions. My partner's foot lost feeling for almost 6 months after she did 900 mile backpacking expedition so that will come back over time. I'd say you are a-okay with numbness if it was due to the apocalyptic walking. You are really just making sure the tissue is not dying  associated with trench foot. Trench foot works just like frost bite. It is a product of overly wet/damp conditions usually. If the tissue begins to die you are in trouble. It will come with discoloration usually very white or off white. Given a few days since the fest if your feet or toe is still white/off white from excessive water I'd seek medical attention.  

  12. 7 minutes ago, H.M.V said:

    This was the first year I ever even contemplated leaving anything due to exhaustion. However we still packed everything up even though tent wouldnt fit properly into tent bag and sucked it up and carried back to the coach and hotel. Repacked when we got to the hotel so we could carry it back on the flight to Ireland.  Bet most of those dirty c**ts were travelling by car. Really boils my piss cos I can't even take some extra home cos just can't fit in baggage for the plane. 

    Oh man we were in this same boat. Everything weighed WAY more. So we had to go Leeds --> Dublin --> Chicago --> Colorado to get home. I'm at the airport repacking backpacks because gear weighed way more wet and muddy and they wanted to charge us 60 pounds due to the over weight. Ended up having to put my weight tent in a trash bag and then into my carry on to get the weight sorted. To think so many people simply have to take it to their car and home just is so sad :(

     

    If it takes 1000-1500 people cleaning up this mess at ~8 pounds in hour so on the low end 8,000 pounds in hour to clean up this stuff it would be great if there was a checkout system. Every camp site has stewards. Not sure how to practically implement it but it would be wonderful if you had to put a 100 pound deposit down and only if you got checked out do you get it back. Sure people will still hustle the system but might get it moving in a much better direction. Or make it non-monetary and if your registration number doesn't properly check out you can't go back to Glasto for 3 years. 

  13. This one has to be one of the worst given the mud. Absolutely ZERO excuse just saying there are a lot of lazy arses in the world and I could see the mud providing an extra deterrent to the lazy ways of not simply packing up your shiz. 

  14. Lazy entitled twats...

    The camping store on site was shocking to me. In the States there are no camping stores on site even for the biggest fests. You see those air mattresses everywhere. Chairs everywhere. They could minimize onsite waste by simply not offering solutions like huge blow up mattresses that are utterly ridiculous. If they didn't hike it in what makes you think they are going to hike it out? I'm sure some do but Thursday the amount of people walking around with those air mattresses purchased was mind boggling and was obvious many were not going to leave the farm. 

  15. That can be dangerous. If it is due to water levels/moisture I'd seek medical treatment. The risk is if the nerves/tissue begins to die it can turn to gangrene. If your skin starts to peel or tissues start to die I'd really get into medical treatment. 

  16. It seems I've had a different experience on Saturday than others. We headed down there after maybe 20 mins of Adele. Got there no problem and it was like empty. The Cave Bar had maybe 10 of us dancing in it. Got into the Temple with nearly no que and walked straight in. Watched ShiTV wandered around looking at the art. We got to the back where ShiTV was and there was this bar. We rocked out to music in the bar and begin to leave and I see this MASSIVE freaking que to get in. It looked so big. I looked at my partner and told her "shit we can't leave now. We clearly are lucky to be here" so we turned around and went back in as I knew we were not getting back in if we left. Walked right back into the bar and went back to dancing. As an aside if anyone knows that bar it would of been on the right walking toward the exit of Shangri-La passed ShiTV that would be awesome.

    I'm not sure if it is a product of people not moving on in further and staying at the bottle neck or what. At the pit for Pyramid had the same thing happen. I really wanted to pit a headliner as it was our first Glasto and read on here about the bottle neck in the pit. Sure enough we had to work SO hard to get thru the bottle neck and we got there an act and a half early posted up, then moved in between sets and it was still incredibly difficult. As soon as you cleared the bottle neck it opened WAY WAY up. It opened up so much once you got through you really could pick anywhere you wanted to stand along the stage line. The bottle neck was SO brutal. Had to try at least 4 routes in. 

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