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3 hours ago, Quadrophobia said:
This makes little sense. The Lana Day performing well was foreseeable. They did not have to "shift capacity" to Friday by cutting down weekend passes, they closed the sales on friday early to encourage people to buy them quickly and also sell some Weekend passes to those that came too late and then reopened them a while later which creates even more incentive in people who "missed out".
Its a common sales strategy nowadays and PS has employed it before. Its basically done with every bigger act now, splitting tickets into tranches over different time slots or through a bazillion different pre-sales. Creates a contant impression of shortage of tickets so people are bullied into buying.
Also, you simply would not need to "shift capacity, modern booking systems will optimize that by themselves using projected sales, if one of your days heavily outsold the weekend passes.
This rests on a false logic. New Order (or any other late addition) were never booked as a reaction to sales-performance, but the contracts had been closed way before the line-up announcement, as with all other bigger acts (these are sometimes done 2-3 years in advance!). It was simply held back for marketing reasons on the bands side. Late additions also hardly ever boost sales, the majority of tickets to be sold has already been sold by this time (with the exception of some day tickets) and many people typically will have made other plans already. Also the cost of spontaneously visiting a fest (unless you're a local) is much more expensive than booking stuff in November. Festivals thus avoid big bands they can only announce late because of the bad cost/benefit ratio. In the case of PS however, adding a band like New Order fortifies their status as a unique fest and pleases the audience that already bought tickets. Thats why significant late additions are the exception, not the rule.
Overall it has to be sad that its impressive that PS was able to sell out anything, giving how horrible the state of the industry is.This is one of the most lucid messages I've read in a while. A breeze of fresh air between endless Slowdive and The National comments tbh. Congratulations and thank you.
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Slowdive are playing a July festival in Spain still pending to announce them (and several bands). Let's move on, please.
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On 2/1/2024 at 4:05 PM, diancieprince said:
When can we expect the boiler room lineup ??? we already sense the comeback of this stage but after the PS Radio Q&A broadcasted some days ago it’s 100% confirmed. Otherwise we all can not expect any other full dj-club electronic stage rip Pull&Bear
Probably not before May
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18 hours ago, Whos3000_ said:
Assuming the album will manage to top his 2 most recent ones in terms of critical acclaim and popularity. I would not take that for granted. I like Tyler but I don’t see him necessarily reaching GOAT status such as Kendrick. He has been in the game for years and, despite a slow but steady growth, I doubt he can drastically reinvent himself.
A new album cycle would be more than enough for coachella though. You convinced me on thatHe was the first artist on the 2020 lineup video and it's hard to think he won't be bigger in 2025 so unless they get Bad Bunny or Radiohead he's #1 again. Funny enough, the second artist on that video was Lana del Rey and she's the only one I can think of that would be ahead today.
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Tyler set will be closer to Kendrick's headlining set (debuting a new album cycle) rather than Tame Impala's although doubt that he will release the album that very Friday as Kendrick. He has been releasing an album every two years since 2011 so seems pretty obvious that he skipped his next one to 2024 to secure a headlining spot at Coachella and decided to release a deluxe version of CMIYGL plus a victory lap with no new songs on his own fest (which is organized by Goldenvoice too). Counting on him as the biggest name on the 2025 line-up.
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The Beth Gibbons - Vampire Weekend is one of the obvious clashes of this year. She cannot play at the Auditori for several reasons: there would be some kind of hint on her description/Gabi would have said sth about it, plus she already did that when the festival was way smaller and she has a prominent placement on the poster and putting her there would generate a logistics problem. For me, the obvious spot is the infamous sunset slot at Ray-Ban but this year they moved it a bit early I think and with the new Amazon-main-stage next to it she could either be playing there. Anyway, 9:30-10:30ish.
Now, Mordor has two possible iterations: Justice or some combination of Peggy Gou - Justice are closing Mordor. Pulp will be playing right before them, so they're starting at 11pm (New Order) or 12am (Halsey, Fred again). That leaves 10pm or 11pm for Vampire Weekend clashing directly with Beth Gibbons.
My two cents: somehow they got lucky this year not clashing big acts playing Ray-Ban/Amazon with similar acts playing Mordor (see Depeche Mode vs Four Tet, The War on Drugs vs St. Vincent + Caroline Polachek, NxWorries + New Order vs Rema + Perfume). These are logical clashes so the most logical clash for me would be Deftones - Beth Gibbons and one of them ends up playing Mordor and the other one Ray-Ban or Amazon.
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Boiler Room is coming later. Happened in 2022, happened this year and will happen next year.
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Well, yeah but she's not doing Primavera this year.
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Tainy already play on 2022 W2. PJ Harvey, Kali, Romy, Tainy, The Armed, Blondshell... Probably all of them are playing.
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If Smashing Pumpkins are playing BBK I'm throwing myself in the river
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Gabi has the final say on whether an artist is booked or not. Doesn't matter if he actually is on the booking team or not.
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Booking Drake for 2024 would be worse than booking Calvin Harris for 2023
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Besides The National aren't playing on Wednesday
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Justice and Dj Koze are releasing new albums in 2024 and Disclosure did the same this August and announced that they were not touring but.
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Last year's Caleta line-up was insane, didn't make sense of how good it was. There was no way they could pull something similar off this year but most of the sets I catched there were okay, good or even very good (Prosumer and Cormac probably the weakest of the weekend). And couldn't see I. Jordan but not even Helena played techno as she usually does so not sure why bringing up the term.
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One of my mates cannot make it anymore so I'm selling their full weekend ticket for 139e if anyone is interested!
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12 hours ago, davidoffescassi said:
She did like 20 dates in Spain last year to present Motomami. I'd go to Death Grips btw
She did 12 shows and virtually every review was ovewhelmingly positive. The show looked great too when she started the festival tour this year and she's playing a homecoming gig.
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10 minutes ago, Martin_89 said:
Overmono at 04:55 on Saturday night, just fuck off.
Actually one of the greatest decisions they made this year
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I know it sucks but a Turnstile-New Order clash makes perfect sense tbh. On the other hand if it is Turnstile-Blur I riot.
@festivalguy97Boiler Room this week (I'd say Friday so the focus stays on the Ciutat tickets) and schedule next week. Let's hope for 18th, let's pray for 15th.
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Something like Cabiria - Loyle Carner - Halsey - New Order - Blur - Le Tigre with Pusha, Turnstile and Ghost playing at Primavera (Binance) and NwWorries, Sparks and Darkside at Ray-Ban
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I think we're getting both areas this year. The 2019 area on the left and the new 2022 zone. I guess they'll get rid of the big structure at the back.
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1 hour ago, festivalguy97 said:
I know Primavera is known for having big time schedule clashes between many artists, even big ones with each other, I don’t know what to expect, it’s my first time at the festival and I’m scared I will miss a lot of things.
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Last year the Boiler Room line-up was announced 6 days before the festival so we'll see
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Funny, I think we're getting the schedule earlier than ever. Looking at how many posts and social media content they are uploading I guess they want to bring attention to the line-up, the acts and eventually to the tickets to shift as many as possible. Releasing the schedule earlier than previous years could generate more content and also help the undecided folks since they'll be able to check what artists they will actually see. I'm thinking early May but it's just a thought.
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Primavera Sound 2024
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Justice wouldn't be second tier nowadays, C. Tangana isn't playing shows in the near future, Charli and Troye won't be billed together at a festival and so on. Besides, this would be like 4 times bigger than the previous edition so obviously fake.