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1 hour ago, glimmers_of_hope said:
Yeah, I think it's definitely in the category of "if she wants to do it, she'll do it".
Sometimes I think she is "too big" then other times I think that maybe for someone in her position it would be a fun and different thing to do.
She doesn't need it at this point in her career but she may fancy doing it.
I think she'll definitely do it at some point. She came to the NME Awards to give Emily Eavis the godlike genius award which suggests she has some kind of connection to the festival to me:
Her current vibe though seems to be to just absolutely drag every possible penny out of all of her fans so I can't see it being for a while.
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1 hour ago, clarkete said:
throws up in mouth
(I say all this as someone who's going to the Eras tour 😅)
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44 minutes ago, al_coholic said:
I was referring to Taylor of course as one of the people. It just beggars belief that she schedules 3 gigs in Dublin over the weekened. I simply do not understand why when she had previously agreed to headline the cancelled festival.
The other one I was thinking about was P!nk. Although I do appreciate that her stage show would not translate onto the Pyramid very well.
As for Springsteen, yep he has done it before, Coldplay have done it loads of times, Stevie Wonder has done it before, I don't get this legendary artist argument. We need fresh and new, something we haven't seen before.
I don't have a problem with Dua Lipa, I totally get she is fresh and relevant, and if she brought Margot Robbie onto stage for Dance the Night, that would be even better!
Because Taylor is one of the most financially focussed artists in history - the Margaret Thatcher of pop. She'll make loads more money from her own tour to add to the billion she already has, and can do Glastonbury at some point in the future for the street cred when she's done rinsing her fans by getting them all to buy 72 limited edition vinyls of every release.
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5 hours ago, Drinky said:
Ok bear with me here: Stevie has always been one of Michael’s top artists to get for the festival, and he was clearly so pleased at landing him for the 40th in 2010… and thinking back to Emily’s comments about a big American artist who would be around next year, and that it would all make sense when the announcement came… is there going to be an announcement that Michael will be stepping back from the festival and farm completely, and this is his send off?
I get the impression he's no longer really involved in the festival in terms of decision making and Emily is firmly in charge now.
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6 hours ago, NorthernSoul52 said:
I'd be shocked if Glastonbury struggled in the next five years to shift tickets. It's become so massive that it'll take a few real duffers when it comes to headline trios to do that - and it's been years since they've booked an out-and-out dud trio as a whole.
Anyway, on the subject of metal, book Ghost to play opposite Stevie Wonder.
The next wet year is going to be the big test I think!
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Interesting to note that Dua Lipa's 2020 livestream concert was produced by Block 9:
https://www.block9.com/work#/dua-lipa-studio-2054/
Glastonbury Festival’s Emily Eavis told the BBC “I absolutely loved Dua Lipa's one (livestream). It was designed by the team behind Block9, one of our late-night areas, and it really captured that proper club feel. It had us dancing around in the living room, by the fire. It really set the bar for live streams, I think, and I heard 5 million people tuned in, which is huge”
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29 minutes ago, Gnomicide said:
Maybe Dua is going to announce some stadium gigs and that is part of the delay.
Still a space at Anfield for another one.
Sorry to post a Daily Heil link but apparently she's doing a stadium tour this summer...
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10 minutes ago, crumbler said:
Could be some copy from last year accidentally pasted in?
I googled the sentence and this thread is the only thing that appears, so I think it's new copy.
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17 hours ago, danbailey80 said:
Genuine question. but does anyone honestly choose to listen to Cher? Like on their headphone etc. It's weird because I imagine not many do but still the hits would work in that slot.
That said, I don't think she can sing any more though hence no full length gigs for years and the only gigs she does are 1 song and it's full miming.
To conclude I don't think there's a chance she's playing sadly.
Could she not just lip sync the whole thing like Dolly Parton or Janet Jackson?
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34 minutes ago, Hugh Jass II said:
How many people are in WV? Few thousand? 5k max? Sticklinch isn't bigger so even if it's the same size (it isn't) you're probably looking at less than 10% of all paying punters staying there.
It's hardly taking over.
I think between the two sites it's 15,000 but I have no idea where I read that!
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4 hours ago, tarw said:
Nor mine. I was working on the accessibility shuttle last year and my wristband was scanned religiously every time we went through the gate which was a lot of times
Just to add to this, it's not my experience either. It was strictly enforced in 2023 for me.
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22 hours ago, CaledonianGonzo said:
This is the key point.
Doesn't matter if they sell 123k tickets or 130k, 200 folk in a tight space can cause a problem. So no matter how many tickets they sell there's the possibility of a crowd issue. Buy generally speaking it gets mitigated by the stewarding.
I wonder if part of the issue is the homogenisation of music tastes - everyone wanting to go and see the same things, which wasn't so much of a thing even ten years ago?
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1 hour ago, GrumpyRaver said:
The current system rewards perseverance - if you make it a lottery you’re gonna get loads more people giving it a shot on the off chance. Like the knobs who were complaining to Emily, Glastonbury and See on Twitter that they couldn’t get tickets and it was unfair, 25 mins into the sale when they could/should have still be trying like the unentitled people we all want at the festival.
also, I just don’t buy it being a problem. Since 2000 I’ve only not got tickets twice in the initial sale - once I got resale, once volunteered - so I’ve never not got in. I can’t be just lucky. Some organisation and perseverance is all you need
And the problem with having a lot of ticketholders who go there by chance, is that you'd then have tens of thousands of the hardcore crew, the ones usually rewarded for their perseverance, that used to go every year, trying to break in. So the problem of jibbing would intensify massively in the event of a lottery system, I reckon.
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1 hour ago, incident said:
The Spice Girls were only ever chatter, and only ever from their side with a couple of their members trying to manifest it by bringing it up at every chance.
When Emily was asked about them, she came as close as I've ever seen her to giving a dismissive answer so doesn't sound like the festival have any interest in the foreseeable.
I think she said "that's not a conversation we're having" when asked about Spice Girls which is probably the strongest dumb down I've heard her say!
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38 minutes ago, Hugh Jass II said:
For someone who isn't up to speed on this sort of thing, how would EPO wristbands stop people getting in? Don't fully understand what they do.
Easy pass out (EPO) wristbands have a QR code on them that gets scanned when you leave the festival, and when you come back in again.
Local tickets can be transferred "up to 5 times" so the photo on the ticket doesn't have to match the person using it. Without wanting to go in to specifics, there's a loophole at the moment whereby someone can go in to the festival on a local ticket, get a wristband, then remove the wristband when they are inside the festival, give both the wristband and the local ticket to someone to take out of the festival, who then changes the name on the back of the local ticket to someone (in exchange for say for £500), and gives them both the local ticket and smuggled out wristband to be used through a re-entry lane. There's another step involved but I don't want to post too much detail.
Basically this wouldn't be possible with the EPO wristband, as when the person gets their wristband scanned for re-entry, the system would say that wristband hadn't been scanned out (and therefore the person whose wristband it is should be in the festival).
If there was a legitimate mistake the ticket office could sort it, but it would be obvious if the same wristband was being used multiple times. In a nutshell, it means the festival would know how many times an individual wristband has been used to exit/re-enter and would make the local ticket loophole and other re-entry blags extremely obvious. They would also be able to void individual wristbands for all gates from a control centre.
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2 hours ago, stuie said:
I can't see the festival admitting that despite the super fence and deploying multiple security companies that they don't have control of their gates. This is a can of worms that they won't want to open.
There's been talk since 2019 about all wristbands becoming EPO scans but this was delayed due to the pandemic - perhaps we'll see this rolled out for 2024 along with more wristband checks as people move around the festival.
I definitely think this will happen in the next couple of years; the technology is working really well now and I think could be rolled up. It would immediately end the local ticket blag and most of the other blags, then you'd just have the bunkers to deal with in the main (and fake tickets).
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3 minutes ago, Crazyfool01 said:
It’ll likely increase in big ways with those numbers knowing routes in … possibly downplaying increase tbh if that original figure is accurate
100%. I also think the increasing ticket price is a factor. £500 to get hidden in the back of a traders van is now only £130 more than you'd pay for a ticket. £750 for the local villager ticket loophole trick is £380 more than a standard ticket. So it means that paying to jib in isn't vastly more expensive than a standard ticket now.
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1 hour ago, Supernintendo Chalmers said:
If jibbing means to gain entrance illegally without paying for a ticket, it's been long discussed on here that thousands get through the gates that way. Thousands. In fact, shortly after the sale on Sunday I was made aware of a social media post that commiserated with friends who were unsuccessful in the sale but not to worry, "see you at the gate" as usual. If people are concerned about others getting in by so-called "nefarious means", the focus should be on those who profit from letting others in free of charge, rather than those who pay for a ticket, albeit through a technical IT loophole.
Because this is now so easily accessible and done on such an industrial scale I can see the festival attempting to crack down a bit in the future (closing the local ticket loophole, starting to search boots on staff vehicle gates etc).
I was chatting to a gate supervisor in 2023 and they said they estimated now that 5% of attendees don't have a ticket. That's 10,000 people. If it grows to 15,000 in 2024, then 20,000 in 2025 etc. that's not sustainable, even with the improved crowd management measures they introduced in 2023.
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17 hours ago, jow95 said:
Those that want to will try anyway. Exposing the ways to do so on this forum that the festival definitely read is the best way to stop it if you wanted to.
Attempting to break in has been a part of the festival for decades, almost encouraged by ME at times.
The biggest way of jibbing is the local villager loop hole which the festival are completely aware of but do nothing about.
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It's interesting that Eminem has a bisexual, non-binary child, given his previous use of language in his lyrics.
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17 hours ago, FloopFiller said:
I assume it’ll be a truncated version for Glastonbury - less interludes and costume changes etc.
The possible miming and backing tracks… eh, it happens, and has happened at Glastonbury before (Dolly springs to mind). Think people will care a lot less about it than you’d think, especially spangled in a field belting out some of the best pop bangers of the last forty years.
My favourite Pyramid miming moment was when Billy Ray Cyrus came out with Miley a bit wobbly, couldn't find his microphone in time, but somehow managed to project his voice around the entire Pyramid field?
2 minutes 40 seconds in the below.. 🤣
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30 minutes ago, Scrump said:
Don't know if it's been said already but how do people feel about the old days. When some people paid to get in and some people jumped the fence and got in for free?
From what I've read/heard that was very much the spirit of the festival. Wasn't discouraged by Eavis who seems to be a very anti-authoritarian.
Overall, is this not similar?
If I'm wrong pls educate me👍
Just to add - this isn't "the old days". It happens now on an absolute *industrial* scale, potentially in the thousands, between the local villager ticket loophole & people paying to go in the back of traders vans which very rarely get checked.
I guess the only difference is it's people paying to bunk in now, although you do still get the odd successful runner (and those that get caught just get dropped off outside the gates to try again)
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33 minutes ago, Nobby's Old Boots said:
If they were to track down the tickets bought by the other servers and cancel those orders as some have (rightly in my opinion) suggested, I have absolutely no faith that Glastonbury and Seetickets could pull that off without cancelling legitimate orders along the way, given how this year's sale has gone.
My friend (well, not a friend but someone in our wider group) got through 6 times and bought tickets for 36 of us in our spreadsheet. I am afraid to ask whether any nefarious efforts were used and the others in my group (who aren't eFesties/across online festival chatter) are just like "wow that's amazing, you're so lucky!"... I guess what I'm saying is, would it be fair to cancel all tickets bought on those servers if people didn't even know this method had been used to acquire their tickets? All we were told by the person that got our tickets who was in the wider group was that he'd managed to get through 6 times, that was it. It's only after the fact that I'm seeing all this stuff about backdoors and piecing things together and feeling concerned.
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