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Have you seen these special trains: http://glastonbury.raileasy.co.uk/ ??
Apart from being a license to print money, and ridiculously expecting Londoners to return on Sunday afternoon, there's some weird routing going on here. They go into Cranmore station. Not Castle Cary. Cranmore, which is a reconstructed station on a preserved train line. http://www.eastsomersetrailway.com/.
And the London train comes not from Paddington, or even Waterloo, but Euston.
You couldn't make it up.
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That logic seems flawed to me. The idea that people will consume more if they come by car for instance. Whether I come by car, bus or train, I will be getting drunk. It's just that if I don't bring my own beer, I will buy it on site, making just as much waste as if I'd lugged it in myself.
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If you give someone two bad choices then they are forced to choose the least bad option.
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Some interesting thoughts here among the rants and moans.
People have talked about how significant the difference in the impact is depending on how many people arrive in one car. There are some festivals which provide financial encouragement to reduce the number of cars arriving by charging more or less depending on the number of passengers. I can't remember what the current Glasto car parking price is, but supposing it was doubled for a car with two passengers and quadrupled for a car with one, does anyone think that would be enough to have an effect on behaviour?
It would be interesting to know how the cost of providing the car parking (renting parking fields at no doubt exorbitant rates, stewarding, security, tractors to pull cars out of the mud etc. etc.) relates to the income from car park tickets. I hope there is a substantial profit going into other parts of the organisation.
It also struck me as I was reading people's reasons for travelling by car that there are hidden costs imposed on the festival by the car travellers. Others who have been attending for a long time will probably agree that the amount of camping space taken up by the 21st-century festival-goer is far greater than when most people brought what they could carry in one rucksack. That's why the space allocated for camping has had to expand disproportionately to the number of campers, to accommodate all those mega-tents (and gazebos ...). And also why the festival has a worse rubbish/recycling problem than ever - people are chosing to come by car to allow them to bring more stuff (cans) which they are going to throw away.
I do sympathise with the determined car drivers. It would take a lot to make me book a combined festival / coach ticket mainly because of giving up the flexibility on when I arrive and depart. The train is not so bad because the flow of buses to the station is more or less continuous, and tickets can be more flexible, but the marginal cost is so much higher than a car.
One positive about public transport is that you can get out of the site quite speedily while the cars are all jammed up. Perhaps they should make the bottlenecks to get out of the parking fields even worse until everyone gets the message :-)
And in case you are wondering .. after many years of coming by car (and just once by train), in 2010 I arrived by bicycle, and intend to do the same in 2011.
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So last year, I arrived via Pedestrian Gate E. I went that way because I have a road bike, and there's no way I can cycle on the tracks once I'm inside the site, so I wanted to get as close as possible on tarmac to my intended camping spot in Dairy. Nobody made a fuss as I went up Stickball Lane on the caravan route, and it was a good way to get in. Once I'd set up, my bike went into the Dairy lock-up for the duration.
I left via the Pennard Hill Gate, but that was not a good idea. The Hill of Death has nothing on that route. Don't try it unless you are a lot fitter than me (most people are).
Did anyone use the new bicycle parking near Pedestrian Gate A? Did it have any advantages over the lock-ups? Will it be there again this year?
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It'd need planning permission if it were to stay erected every year.
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Actually I'm a bit squeamish about the idea that everything at the festival is temporary. It always feels more like somewhere I go on holiday every year. When you visit a place once a year, most things are just the same, but a few things have changed - maybe a new eating place has opened, or an old one has moved, a new bridge has been built.
But can someone in the know tell me - is the leftfield tower there all the time, or is it erected and taken down every year? Things I've read suggest the latter, but I wonder why, and where does it go?
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Anyone use Pedestrian Gate E this year? What were the queues like on Wednesday morning?
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I'm not actually sure if they've done it this time around, but they've definitely done it in the past - the same conspiracy theory comes around each year. And there's no reasons for them to tell porkies - they don't prioritise any particular ISP, why would they? They only care about selling tickets to anyone that wants them.
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Did I say that I was the one who'd done it?
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analysis of who got tickets.
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There was no advantage from any particular ISP, there was no advantage with any particular browser. I know this for certain.
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I've arrived at lunch time (between 1-2pm) for the last 3 years and managed to get a decent sized spot in Pennards each time. We're usually just south of the Park but I've noticed it fills up faster every year
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To be fair, I managed to wing a free one last year at Reading. Wasn't THAT bad...
Rip-off nonetheless. AND they've doubled in price since last year.
Some friends went for it though - and they're lifting me home. Is there no chance of being able to EXIT from the gate on the Monday? Even if they come to the gate to explain the situation?
SURELY?
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OK, here's my plan - give it a spin and tell me who I'm going to offend and why ...
Some of my family are taking GCSEs and can't arrive until Thursday afternoon. This is their post-exam treat! I want them to camp with me because I can look after them if they need me. However I shall be arriving on Wednesday by bicycle, a distance of approx 70 miles. Therefore I shall carry as little as possible, to include one very small tent. I shall also bring the groundsheet of the three-person tent.
Traditionally we have camped in "top Pennards", now the Tipi field, and although we tried main Pennards last year, it was too hectic for me. We really like the south side, so I intend to find a space in maybe Dairy Ground, as high up as possible, and peg out my tiny tent and the groundsheet, with a notice on it. I am not going to sit next to my tent for the next 24 hours, because it is Glasto and there are better things to do. When the others arrive in the car, they will plonk the tent on top of its groundsheet.
Will this work?
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Just wondering, how do you get to this gate? We are being dropped off by a car and were originally going to use the drop off point, but the bus drops you at the fesival bus station, quite a way from pennards. Any way for us to use the Pennard pedestrian gate?
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Last year there was a lockup between Avalon and West Holts, but its not on this years Fine Guide, does anyone know if this is just a mistake or will there really be no lockup there this year, it would be a shame because that means vitually the whole of the south east corner wont have a lockup
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So, does the new bike lock-up at Yellow Gate have some advantage over the normal property lock-ups?
In the past I have read about cyclists arriving via the Pennard Hill Gate. Anyone know if that is still possible?
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.. but heavily pregnant this time I really felt the need... turned up on Sat morning to a huuuuge queue, like 2 hours long or something.. so went to ask Greenpeace lady how long the wait was, as I couldn't be on my feet for toooo long at a time, and she (after checking it was ok with 1st few people in the queue) offered to send me straight in!! Everyone was so friendly there, real Glasto spirit, and lovely clean showers.
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Um yeah which cafes/stalls do you think served the best vegan food? and what was it?
I could not believe this
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To my mind, that only tells half the story. OK, the Glasto "footprint" is large, and overlays a substantial part of my home town on that map. But if you compare the populations, then you'd be looking at a massively bigger area. Not sure what the total number of temporary residents is, but certainly greater than 200,000, which makes us pretty high up in this list.