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2 minutes ago, SomeoneListeningIn said:
Already contradicting my original post but he's playing Summer Sessions in Glasgow for slightly cheaper, although if you live in Leeds then I guess the festival would be far more convenient.
Day tickets for Leeds are actually only £69.50 so Glasgow is only £4 cheaper. I honestly thought they were pricier although I assume there will be booking and delivery fees not to mention the shuttle bus from Leeds to the festival itself to drive the price up.
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2 minutes ago, SomeoneListeningIn said:
Tbf that's probably the cheapest you'll ever pay for Kendrick, be it at his own gig or a festival.
Yeah I guess that's true, unless he falls off unlikely as that may be. I might crack as it gets closer to the date. Getting my friends to come with me would be the problem.
I wish he would've done a date in Leeds on the Damn tour, I live about a 25 minute walk away from the arena.
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Some decent acts announced but not enough to make me consider a weekend ticket. As much as I want to do the Leeds Sunday that undercard is still very weak and I can't justify spending ~£80 just to see Brockhampton and Kendrick. Pendulum clashing with Kendrick is disappointing as they seem like they'd be fun live.
Is this the weakest 1Extra stage in recent years? Very underwhelming.
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Kendrick suits R&L's audience to an absolute tee. He's far more relevant to the 16-21 demographic than someone like Green Day (who haven't cracked the top 40 in almost a decade) can hope to be again. He also has crossover appeal, it's anecdotal but I've never seen a song from outside the genre so well received at indie nights as Humble. Couple that with his acclaim as a live performer (even if he had a blip tonight) and he's tailor made for the festival.
Hip-hop/grime etc. is the music of the youth today and R&L book what's popular. Guitar music has been out of step since streaming took hold.
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Any chance we'll see Justice? They're about this summer
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7 hours ago, Mattymooz said:
Parklife is relatively similar...
Yeah it is a bit. I guess what I meant was I wish we had this in the north. Parklife has a very solid lineup but doesn't quite hit the spot in the same way for me.
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23 minutes ago, RarerThanDandyB said:
What if the new V Festival goes back to rock and indie and AM are playing hence why they are not UK exclusive, same with Foo Fighters, chose to play that instead? Could be playing that. Like TRNSMT, a very strong first lineup? Just had a thought I would share...
Would seem a bit odd that FR would hamstring its flagship event in R&L and piss off a significant part of its core demographic by diverting indie bands away and into zombie V.
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11 minutes ago, SomeoneListeningIn said:
Out of boredom I've drawn up my ideal 2018 lineup.
I've tried to make it semi-realistic by only including acts that are definitely active this summer. Obvs a lot are exclusives/headlining elsewhere or not in Europe that particular weekend, but in theory they all coulda been booked for the festival had they been available. I've not included anyone (I think) that obviously wouldn't play R&L, don't think anyone is too high/low, and I've included a few acts I'm not as fussed about but the festival should be booking and giving a push (Don Broco, NBT etc.). I've also tried to get a semi-realistic mix of genres, although obviously my own biases will have influenced it a lot.
Done full main stage and just over half NME.
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Main: Florence & the Machine, The xx, Wolf Alice, Nothing But Thieves, Peace, Declan McKenna, Fickle Friends, Black Honey, Anteros
NME: Childish Gambino, Anderson .paak & the Free Nationals, Dave, Brockhampton, AJ Tracey, The Big MoonSat
Main: Kendrick Lamar, Chvrches, Dua Lipa, J Hus, Mastodon, Creeper, Alien Ant Farm, Idles, Astroid Boys
NME: Pixies, Don Broco, Death From Above, Pvris, King Gizzard & the Lizard Wizard, Alvvays, ShameSun
Main: Foo Fighters, The Prodigy, Weezer, The Distillers, The Gaslight Anthem, Marmozets, Beartooth, Arcane Roots, Black Foxxes
NME: Jungle, Sigrid, Jorja Smith, The Amazons, Car Seat Headrest, Pale Waves, Rex Orange CountyAfter typing that out I've realised there's a couple that I'm not 100% sure are touring this summer, but I'm pretty sure almost all of those are.
That would probably sell me a weekend ticket. A couple more acts I like on the 1extra stage and The Pit/Lock Up would make it the best lineup in recent years. It's obviously not as easy as all that but this would be an infinitely better lineup that'd satisfy plenty of the demographic, what could've been if they'd had a bit of imagination.
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2 minutes ago, danz026 said:
So hang on, an Indie music band at an Indie music festival attracts bellends?
If that's how you feel then why are you bothering with Indie festivals at all?
There's as many dedicated indie stages as there are dance, rap and rock. R&L is by no means an indie festival.
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Just now, SomeoneListeningIn said:
Ffs why have they even got Kendrick headlining, there's gonna be so many MDMA deaths this year
. He'll probably be throwing pills into the crowd fgs.
The man literally raps about smoking angel dust. Won't somebody think of the children!?
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1 minute ago, Breakfast club said:
Any chance of wolf alice into fall out boy?
Doubt Wolf Alice are big enough to sub yet. I believe someone had a source saying they were headlining the NME this year too.
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Just now, Gucci Piggy said:
Isn't Wireless already sold out?
Shit yeah don't know how I forgot how quickly it sells out.
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Have to say the similarity to the Wireless lineup is disappointing. I'm a big fan of hip-hop but the acts at R&L and Wireless just don't appeal to me at all. I was hoping to see acts like Schoolboy Q, Vince Staples, Danny Brown, Jay Rock, Joey Bada$$, Denzel Curry, A$AP Ferg and Injury Reserve get booked (I'm aware a few of those have played recently) over the likes of Lil Pump and Playboi Carti and I think they'd suit the festival a lot better
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11 minutes ago, Breakfast club said:
I don't understand how they can say that indie fans can be happy when they release just the Wombats?
I'm not a big fan of indie rock but calling The Wombats "genre-defining" seems a bit harsh on the other bands in the genre.
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Do we reckon that the full poster will be released around early April time like it was last year? Seems like the delay in announcements was down to booking issues rather than the new PR company as they seem to be doing things in much the same way.
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11 minutes ago, Gucci Piggy said:
People calling R&L "R&Ls" is worse than the lineup.
I think it has to be that. I also think it's very likely that KoL are a replacement booking so it could have initially been lined up as something like this:
Florence and the Machine / Fall Out Boy
Kendrick Lamar / Panic! at the Disco
Arctic Monkeys / Imagine Dragons
Arctic Monkeys fall through and are replaced by KoL. Flo and Imagine Dragons either fall through or are moved over to V Fest or something. Leaves them with FOB, Kendrick/PATD, KoL. Two main stages stops being viable so PATD must be moved to the actual main stage but already have an agreement to be billed as headliners. Much easier to leave them on the same day rather than rearranging acts who have planned out touring schedules. I think they'll play before Kendrick at both sites (presumably if the two stage thing happened they'd have headlined that stage before Kendrick headlined the main main stage at both sites), but are just billed as co-headliners as that's what they'll have agreed to initially.
Obviously that's all pretty convoluted and I don't expect to have nailed the whole situation but I think something along those lines must have happened. I also think all this was definitely the reason for the late announcement rather than a new PR company.
Yeah that seems the most likely scenario. People would be a lot more accepting of Panic as a headliner if they were part of a group of six which included Arctics, Florence and Kendrick and they'd be a good option both for the festival in being a cheap option and for attendees who want something different seeing as they're pretty much straight pop.
It certainly would have been interesting to see them do six headliners and two main stages and it would have brought them a lot of publicity in a Glastonbury year. I wonder if they'll try again if it was in the works this year or whether they'll just leave it seeing as it appears to have caused them loads of problems.
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If Kendrick closes both sites what's the point of having Panic billed as a headliner? They're not pushing having 4 headliners the way they did in 2016 when having 5 headliners was a major part of their marketing, I didn't even realise Panic were headlining the first few times I looked at the poster. Bumping them from sub to headliner doesn't make it seem any stronger compared to FOB in 2016 who at least weren't complete head-scratchers as co-headliners albeit uninspired.
I thought that maybe they're a leftover from the six headliners/second main stage that never happened but that conflicts with fesivalsaregood's source saying that it looked to be Kendrick/AM/Florence a few weeks ago. Baffling.
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That's a hell of a lineup. Wish we had something similar up north.
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7 minutes ago, AndrewSmith said:
Further back in this thread, there was the suggestion that someone had heard there was going to be changes and 6 headliners were to be booked for 2018.
Anyone think that this could still be the case and they've got two more headliners (e.g. Royal Blood/Imagine Dragons/Paramore/30STM) to be announced later on to keep the flow of tickets going?
Otherwise their new PR company/plan literally couldn't have gone much worse.
I feel like they would have alluded to there being more to come if that were the case. The fact the press release said "Kendrick Lamar, Kings of Leon, Fall Out Boy and Panic at the Disco are your #RANDL2018 headliners" seems pretty final. I also reckon that of they had Royal Blood/Paramore etc. booked they would've announced at least one of them instead of Panic/FOB.
There might be something to the idea that they were gunning for 6 headliners on 2 stages but it didn't work out and they were left with the 4 we have now and no other viable options. Or more likely is that they just ballsed the whole thing up.
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1 minute ago, FloorFiller said:
He’s touring the same setlist every night so I doubt he’d want to add a whole bunch of new production/visuals just for R/L. From what I understand he’s got a pretty well choreographed show so will just be doing the same thing for all his shows. Easier said than done to add an extra 40 minutes on to that.
Could be the case that he just doesn't have the stamina to go two hours either. Rapping's hard work.
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1 minute ago, MIchael_scarn said:
100% especially without kendrick co-headlining, think that'd actually get me to go with 2 headliners I'd actually want to see with it potentially being 0 at the moment if the they get Panic to close a site. It's not as if Biffy aren't around either, they're doing shows end of June with more to be announced I believe.
My only thought is maybe Biffy didn't want to be replacement headliners again, unless I'm misremembering they were brought in last minute in 2016 due to someone dropping out.
I'm hoping Panic are just a glorified sub like Fall Out Boy were. I should have a house in Leeds come August so I was planning on going for the Kendrick day with a couple of friends and making a bit of an event of it but I'm not interested in shelling out £80+ if Panic close Leeds.
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1 minute ago, MIchael_scarn said:
If the gap means nothing now i'd have been much happier if they'd just brought Biffy back.
A trio of Biffy/Kendrick/Kings Of Leon looks so much stronger than the current quartet. Far more balanced too as they'd fill the void of the traditional heavier headliner. With two new albums on the way and the caliber of their live performances they would've been a much better booking than FOB/Panic.
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Just now, VCK said:
A lot of those streams would be from outside of the UK.
I mean, they are pretty popular over here, their last album reached the top five, but definitely not sub/co-headline material.
1 minute ago, MIchael_scarn said:Even with that information it still makes you wonder how many people at FR were like 'yano what will go down well, putting panic at the disco who were 5th down in 2015 as a co-headliner with the greatest hip hop artist in the world right now'. It's beyond a joke at how disconnected it seems.
4 minutes ago, Mattymooz said:It may be popular but is it popular enough to warrant them going from 5th down in 2015 to coheadlining this year...
I'm not defending the decision at all, I was just really surprised that they were still so popular. I was under the impression that they fell off quite a lot once most of the original lineup left the band.
It's baffling that they 1) signed them as a headline act and 2) didn't have them co-headline with Fall Out Boy, the weakest headliner and the band who signed them and gave them their big break, it could've made a nice little narrative.
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Just looked at Panic at the Disco's Spotify and their newest album has near 1 billion streams. I had no idea they were still so popular, haven't heard anything from them since their second album.
Lineup 2018
in Reading & Leeds Festivals
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As long as they don't clash with Brockhampton or Kendrick DFA would be a godsend. Where do you reckon they'd play? The Pit?