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6 minutes ago, hfuhruhurr said:
Who get's the booking fee?
See are getting the same money whatever they do. Anything to improve the system would effectively be for free because there is no financial impetus - it won't earn them anything extra, it's more investment for the same money, so it would eat into their profits if anything.
They shift 100,000 tickets in half an hour. That's good enough for them. Anything further is above and beyond their services.
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10 minutes ago, Kinzinski said:
What are peoples thoughts on blocking registrations of those who attended the year previous? Interested to know opinions.
What's to stop someone registering again with a slightly different photo and different address? They'd need to collect and verify more identifying data for that to be feasible. And even then, it would need policing to stop diliberate typos to get around the detection system.
In principle I have nothing against the idea. It's a shame to get to this stage, but when allegedly 1.7million people are trying, something needs to give. It's only going to go up every year. A second site must surely become a serious consideration now.
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Was 2016 the year Jake Bugg headlined Other Stage? I definitely remember that year there was nice weather but the mud really drained my energy so I just wanted to go to bed after the headliner each night!
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1 hour ago, balti-pie said:
Right, that’s a couple of people who’ve said the resale is easy: this encourages me. I’ve not had anything to do with em before. Is this just positive affirmation though? A kind of ‘Ive done it and it worked so therefore it’s easy’ while loads of others got bugger all?
I've managed to get resale tickets in the past, but within the last few minutes so it could have been a very different story. It's a relatively fast sale compared to general. Gotta have hope!
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Hi guys,
I keep telling myself it's not my fault. It's not my fault. But at times, I feel like it was... ??
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20 minutes ago, DeanoL said:
Some people might find the sister festival preferable? In terms of time of year/location/price ?
And yeah, the same applies to other festivals, they all compete with Glastonbury. Certainly I know people who used to go to G that now prefer other festivals that cater to them better.
Exactly. There are hundreds of thousands of people wanting to go to Glastonbury. If you said "the same areas and line up will also be available at this other sister festival" a decent proportion would be up for that. Maybe you wouldn't, but there are enough people who have tried but failed for tickets for years who would be willing to try a sister festival for some of the same vibe.
Sure, it isn't Glastonbury, but it's a good alternative that can pick up a name for itself in its own right as the years go by. In 10-15 years it could grow to be held in the same regard as Glastonbury but different in its own way. There are so many people involved in setting up Glasto that there's bound to be plenty of 'deputies' in the wings who could take the reins of a sister site organisation.
It'd be a mammoth undertaking, but I don't see why so many here take it as a hard no. I see it as similar to the super wall - sure some moan that the atmosphere has never been the same since, but the majority of punters at the festival couldn't care less, and it safeguarded the future of the festival. Years on from the wall, it barely garners a mention.
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2 minutes ago, rzwodezwo said:
Probably just luck and coincidence but I am a bit surprised so many had trouble even getting on the holding page, which has not been a problem for me at all. Maybe it helped having the page open on all devices since an hour before the sale?
Not really. I was refreshing from well before the kick off, from 9am got the error crash. Never had a problem in previous years with at least getting to the holding page. Some years it just isn't meant to be!
Difficult to tell anything anecdotally - if you get through it seems easy, if you don't it seems impossible. Don't see that ever changing!
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I can't help but think Glasto has a lot of leniency because it's been established for so long. Try setting up a new ground with music going on til 8am and there's going to be a lot of bureaucracy to battle through. I don't think it's impossible, but I don't think it would be a simple proposition.
Personally, I'm not totally against it. What makes Glasto special for me are the mix of big and small acts, all the areas to chill out, Shangri La with its sets for partying, and the lay out of the festival in a valley (for some reason it wouldn't be the same if it was just a flat field). Im not so interested in the spirituality part of the festival (sorry!) and I'm not entirely convinced by the arguments for atmosphere and 'people' since tickets are sold to a somewhat random 135k people each year. The small subcultures are in the people who provide the festival, and that can always grow to a second site. Like all the small arty things? Well there are plenty more around the country who could provide that kind of thing just as well. The acts are just as oversubscribed as the tickets!
With a second festival they could set up a second completely different ShangriLa. Sure, it wouldn't be the original Pyramid stage, but it's something. If it had a similar but somewhat different identity I doubt there would be many haters once it established itself. The difficulty is in setting it up in a single year. Glastonbury has had huge incremental improvements over even the last 5 years.
As much as I'd love to say Glastonbury is completely impossible to reproduce, I think 80% of it could be carried to a different site and maintain much the same vibe if the right people were involved.
Wasn't there that rumour that the Arcadia festival could actually be the secret lead up to the Glasto Bazaar? It would make the most sense to grow another festival without the Glasto hype to grow organically before giving it the Glasto branding.
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Just now, Bradders said:
The back button doesn’t work so the only reason big groups get more tickets between them is more people trying. It’s not a “once you’re in you can buy 30” situation.
Yeah, it's a good step forward. Admittedly, I remember using that loop hole myself a few times (to help out one or two people, not dozens!).
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19 minutes ago, Deaf Nobby Burton said:
I don’t have a problem with how the sale works and accept its massively over subscribed so it’s just the way it works.
I do find it slightly galling when you read about these mega sized groups who get in three or four times. Even if a lot of these groups still don’t manage to get all 30/40/50 of them, in many cases half or more of them do so it’s still a huge amount of people.
I know it’s sounds like sour grapes (and it is, really) but I just wanted to get through once and get 6 tickets, not 30 or 40. I know it’s just the nature of the beast though.
That's understandable. It does seem a broken system if the few who do get through for whatever reason can become the Ticket Gatekeepers, repeatedly buying tickets for all their friends in multiple orders. At least it's heartening to see clicking back doesn't always work.
I really don't know what can change. Each year it's a record number of people. It's going to be harder and harder on internet servers - even if they do improve it'll be a case of 1 minute sellouts like you see with arena tours. Either you get straight through or you refresh straight to a sold out page. Thats no less frustrsting. A ballot sure is the fairest way, no doubt about it, but encourages far more "have-a-go" punter's who wouldn't brave the gauntlet usually, resulting in far more applications and far less chance of getting tickets.
If anything I liked how it was a few years back with tickets taking an hour or two to break through the crashes and sell out. At least then there was some attrition after people started giving up!
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I didn't manage it this year, but it does happen every year.
In the 2017 resales I got to the ticket form with the "tickets not currently available" statement in place of selecting the number of tickets I wanted. Kept refreshing and it let me order a ticket after a few minutes of frantic refreshing. This was around the time of the official sell out (though it's a bit foggy in my mind if it was just before or just after it was officially sold out).
I'm pretty sure if you get the "Glastonbury is sold out" page, you're out of luck, since this is straight up cutting off access to the ticket form. It's getting from the holding page to the ticket form that is the great stumbling block. Once on the ticket form and "in the system" you have a much better chance of getting through by refreshing. It looks like the people who got the tickets after sell out were on the ticket form so could keep refreshing that page.
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3 minutes ago, JoshM87 said:
100% that will happen. I suspect it’s minimal as it’s actually quite a hard thing to organise if you think about it logistically but I’ve no doubt it happens.
You're saying it's possible under the current system? I don't see how... If you buy a ticket for someone else, there's no way for you to cancel it unless you block the credit card transaction, which is a hassle in itself. I really don't see this being an occurance to worry about.
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My facetious comment aside, I think CG is more of a subheadliner at this point. If he headlined, he'd get the Gorillaz treatment. People think they want to see him, then realise most his material isn't anything like that one song they know. The crowd is a lot more forgiving for the subheadliners.
If Farrell subheadlined, I don't see why Gambino couldn't.
I'd be very surprised if Kendrick isn't a headliner. He seemed like an obvious choice in 2017, and is only more so now. Just edgy enough to show Glasto is progressing, but a safe enough bet to be respectable to the stalwarts (especially now he has a Pulitzer).
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6 minutes ago, Riggins said:
Hearing a lot of Kendrick talk, could Childish Gambino be talked about on the same level? I'd love that and think he'd nail it.
People heckling for This Is America for 90 minutes? Sounds great!
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All theories are going to be conjecture. Every year is just going to get more popular. Now people have more devices, there's going to be more traffic. I think those are the only definites.
Next year is going to be worse.
April has always seemed a bit easier, but I wouldn't be surprised if that becomes equally troublesome. Fingers crossed for everyone!
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Wow, first year I've not even managed to get through to the holding page...
See you all in April!
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There needs to be shelter on Wednesday and Thursday before the stages all open up. Wednesday last year was a joke for people hunting out shade in the heat. All the covered stages were out of bounds. ANYWHERE there was shade there were people crowding together - even the shadow of flags! A bunch of giant temporary gazebos that could be taken down once everything's up and running would be handy if it was sunny or raining. It doesn't help that people have potentially already queued in the sun for hours with all their stuff waiting to get in.
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5 hours ago, kingcrawler said:
Seems like they're doing Boxer in full at their Brussels gig tonight.
To be fair, they owe Brussels something special after cancelling to play for Obama. Good on them for making a special show!
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19 minutes ago, ghostdancer1 said:
it always sounds like he's straining to hit a certain height but can't get there.
That's exactly what I love in Matt's screaming! He already does the strained shouting live for Mr November so I thought it was interesting he chose to use it on record too. I definitely think it sounds a bit out of place on the record with all the other sombre tracks, but it sounds great live. Maybe should have been a B-side? I'm surprised they don't have more songs for Matt to let loose on.
Turtleneck and System Only Sleeps... sound far more El Vy than recent National to me (part of the reason I brought it up). Personally, I'm glad Matt's carried some of that over into the new record. Bit odd that National have suddenly picked a sound so similar to Brent Knopf's though.
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So what are everyone's opinions on El Vy now some time has passed?
I think it might be just a smidgen better than any National record...
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10 hours ago, Tuna said:
Hey, I know it can be a bitter pill to swallow missing out on a tour due to funds/location/age, or even not being into the artist. Every time I listen to Leonard Cohen I wish to myself I actually knew his work when he was actively touring. By the time the O2 shows came around in... 2013? I was just so skint I couldn't go. That was my chance, and that's gone. Just be stoked you got to see 'em, and who knows, maybe one day you'll realise you got a couple of stone cold gems and you'll be grateful. If not, you'll see those tracks you were wishing for in many gigs for years to come - they will be setlist staples.
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Last night's setlist -- no Alligator. C'mon, let's be havin' ya, lads. Very good feeling about this gig.
I really don't think the band will go back to all the old staples in a single set in future tours - seems like they've turned a corner with their setlists. Makes a lot more sense to start changing things up with 7 albums (even if they do only play songs from 5 of them). Not enough bands change their setlists IMO, it should be encouraged!
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The fallow year is great for me! Got to complete my doctorate thesis for March 2019 so no interruption. One year of hard work, then everything will be alright with the world again!
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5 hours ago, crocodiles said:
Was a magnificent performance thanks to a true e fester for selling me his tickets when he couldn't go and not trying to cash in ...that's the way. Was it me or did lot of crowd not pick up on the fact it was a new order cover . Matt is a great showman everything looked and sounded great and atmosphere was good. Only one bug bear usual dicks talking all the way through some of the likes of I need my girl through to Abel.
Yeah, chatters are far worse at National gigs. So many more sedate songs that when one group stops talking, another starts. Infuriating!!
To be honest, I didn't pick up on it! I'd only ever heard Iron and Wine's cover and didn't know it was a New Order song until I looked it up after the show... I did figure they'd play some sort of cover at some point after Matt talked about how much Manchester means to them, but they didn't make much effort to introduce the song itself. It's a total cliché to say that and then cover The Smiths or Joy Division.
My friend gave me a New Order vinyl, it's still sitting on the shelf in shrink wrap. Haha
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55 minutes ago, glasto-worker said:
the bloody year when there is very little mess and I miss it !!!
its a tricky issue - No one ' unless they have a time machine ' can work out in advance how many workers and for how long they will be required for - So was it mainly dry ? or was people not being messy ? - how inconsiderate - or was it something else that I am not aware of ?
I was in a Intensive Care Unit during Glastonbury week - a nurse with me 24 hours per day - no access to TV and could not leave my bed { as I was attached to four blood drains } so the only year since 1979 that I missed it and I could not even watch it on TV !!! - I was all set to switch on the TV and get one of the nurses to toss mud and water all over me just so I could have a virtual Glastonbury but it never happened - I was being injected with Morphine every four hours and I drifted though the whole thing.
So which year was the closest to the weather in 2017 ?
It was nigh-on 2010. Not as hot overall (though Wednesday was baking!), and a few very light showers, but nothing for more than 15-20 minutes and no mud. The no mud part was probably why it was so fast to clean up - people were voluntarily kicking rubbish into piles to make it easier to clean up, and not much was being trodden into the ground. The stages were almost spotless each morning, so the dawn clean up crews were really keeping on top of things.
Resale club 2020 / 2021
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Third year running in the resale club! Was successful in the 2017 resale, failed 2019... hoping to bank in some karma for 2020.