seadragon
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Your opinion of EOTR really has fallen a long way if you're accusing them of being liars. It does explain your colossal overreaction though.
Personally I don't see how 50 day tickets could affect a festival given the number of guest list tickets that bands get anyway. Mainly I'm just excited as hell about the whole weekend : )
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Given that Richard played the festival first back in 2008 and has since djed with jarvis at the festival at least once (or was it twice) I get the impression Fiona and Simon know him or at least 'his people' pretty well and would be happy to do their fanclub a favour. Even if that wasn't the case I don't think I have a problem with 50 day tickets for a fanclub. I really don't think it will affect the atmosphere of the festival (unless there's something I ought to know about RH fans) and it's clearly not a commercial decision so it's hard to accuse them of hypocrisy. Seems like a satisfactory explanation to me,
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I'm liking this guy actually. A lot.
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Got my Grandaddy tickets for their Shepherd's Bush show
Anyone else going?
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Any of the Communion bands please (or anyone affiliated to Communion).
I've just been listening to all the bands announced so far for the one day Bushstock festival on 2nd June and I'm getting that feeling of excitement that I used to get about all the EOTR bands I hadn't heard of. I coudl go and see pretty much any of those bands and know I'm going to have a good day.
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So I presume that any of the bands playing can also request day tickets for their fan clubs? Now that's a new one! Still kind of goes against what you say on your website though doesn't it? Either there are day tickets available or there aren't...
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Only 2500 and they haven't even sold those tickets?
I just looked Richard Hawley's website thinking it was probably a mistake but no, you really can buy a sunday day ticket. And that's despite the NDH website still saying no day tickets because it spoils the atmosphere when people only show up for a day. What a joke. I can understand needing to sell tickets to make the festival happen but what happened to honesty and just telling people there are day tickets available if that's the case? The thing I used to like most about the EOTR team was their communication and seeming care about their customers, but now they really seem to have lost their way
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Oh I don't disagree that there are a lot of great bands playing and if I hadn't seen at more than half of them at EOTR over them last few years then I'd probably be excited too. But so many of the bands on the lineup have played multiple times that I just can't get excited about them. The only bands I'm vaguely interested in don't in any way justify £150 of my money. Grandaddy was the only band announcement that made me reconsider and then I realised they'd be playing on the Woods stage and it put me right off. I'm all for big bands, but having now listened to all the bands announced so far it's missing a lot of the amazing new discoveries I used to get excited about. And as for NDH, I'm not surprised they've resorted to selling day tickets with that lineup.
I know all festivals change eventually, I just find it sad that EOTR has become something that the people running it always promised it wouldn't. I remember a quote from either Simon or Sofia a long way back (way back in the days when they used to communicate regularly with the people posting here and listen to suggestions and concerns) where they said the capacity would only be increased if it meant being able to get Tom Waits to play...well I haven't seen Tom Waits on the lineup yet it's doubled in size over the past few years. Sad really, because now it's just another festival, not special like it once was.
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Agree with Daniel Rossen - Silent Hour/Golden Mile.
I think I'm also probably responsible for 50% of the views of this video. Loving this EP too at the moment.
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Everything I read about NDH and EOTR makes me more and more glad that my gut instinct was to not buy earlybird tickets this year. Everything about both festivals so far has been underwhelming, but if they're having to resort to selling day tickets now then that totally blows apart the ethos of the festivals.
It's ok though, now Grandaddy have announced more dates I can rest assured I can see them somewhere else even if it's not in one of my favourite places. EOTR is definitely not happening for me this year.
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If they book Jeff Mangum or The Music Tapes or The Minders I'll buy a ticket and take back everything I've said about this year's lineup being dull
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Not reviews (yet) but I am getting stupidly excited about a couple of upcoming gigs...
Perfume Genius at St Pancras Old Church on 10th May - is there any more beautiful venue to see him play?
and Tinariwen on 3rd May - shame it's at Shep Bush Empire but still, when the songs on the last album are as beautiful as this I can look past that and get excited
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Yeah I read that too, but in typical Guardian music review style she didn't really say much about the actual gig at all but I guess she did give it 5*. The only Guardian review that sticks in my mind as incredibly accurate was the one they wrote for the Hop Farm festival a couple of years back when Bob Dylan 'played'.
I really hope they get back to their roots and don't go the way of bands like Mumford & Sons and Dry The River.
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Hypothetical as I'm 99% sure I'm not going to go this year...
Must sees:
Grandaddy
John Grant
Delicate Steve
Looking forward to:
Grizzly Bear
The Shivers
Cashier No 9
Willis Earl Beal
....?
Not fussed:
Pretty much everything else - not because they're not good bands, but because I've either seen them before or because I've listened and they don't grab me enough to make me want to buy a ticket
I struggled to make that list. Of my three must sees I'm sure at least two of them will also play in London while they're here so I'll just go and see them there instead. The only people on the lineup that'd make me consider buying a ticket are Grandaddy and John Grant, but I'm put off by the fact that both will play on the souless Woods stage. If they were on the Garden Stage then I might just reconsider coming, but honestly I think I'm probably done with EOTR. I'm really disappointed with the lineup this year, but I guess every festival gets bigger and becomes a victim of its own success eventually.
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Other Lives @ Village Underground
I can echo what PP said and looking around me I don't think I was the only one. Having seen these guys for the third time last night, I was truly disappointed and after analysing what went so wrong on the train home, I came to the following conclusions.
I first saw OT at The Lexington last year having listened to the first album to death and been very impressed with the second album. They were fresh, excited to be there and they played their hearts out. The sound was amazing and that, I fear, is a large part of the problem with their show last night. Whilst Village Underground is visually impressive and a beautiful venue, the sound was awful. For a band whose songs include so many layers of sound, all that was audible last night was a huge bass fuzz and some barely comprehensible vocals. Many instruments you couldn't hear at all.
Going back to the beginning though, the show started off badly. After the customarily long stage set up time, there then followed a ridiculously long and tedious build up to their entrance. And I mean long. I'm sure that approach works in a big stadium when you're supporting a band the size of Radiohead where an impressive visual show is as much expected as the music, but last night it didn't do them any favours and was just pretentious.
Even the second time I saw them at EOTR, despite being disappointed that they didn't have a long enough set and they didn't play anything from the first album, they were still good and seemed to enjoy playing. Last night it all seemed like 'just another show'. They looked bored at times and thoroughly tired, as if they were just going through the motions. Jesse admitted he'd been in London more times in the last couple of years than he'd seen his mother and he looked like that was something he should remedy sometime soon.
In summary, they're a great band and they've produced two very solid albums. If the new songs last night were anything to go by their next album, whenever it arrives, will be just as good. In the meantime though they need to take a step back and re-find themselves. Last night I very nearly left before the end because the appeal of getting an earlier train home was higher than seeing the rest of the show. In fact the only thing that stopped me was the thought of having to battle my way out through the sold out crowd, but I'm actually glad I didn't, because for the encore (and probably due to the change in sound levels for Jesse's solo Black Tables) the last couple of songs sounded much better. But they still didn't do it for me. I hope it's a blip and when they've had a rest they'll be back to their previous form.
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... Slightly disappointed with the Shins
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Got Shearwater at the Scala tomorrow, Other Lives at the Village Underground on Wednesday, and possibly the Windmill's Easter Friday all-dayer (Dignan Porch, Singing Adams, Sparrow and the Workshop + more and a barbecue) this week
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Mmmm the two last reviews don't bode well for the Felice Brothers tomorrow at Koko for which I have tickets
I'm going to keep my fingers crossed for third time lucky though...and if by any chance there's anyone here who'd like to take a chance on it I have one (possibly two) tickets spare for this at face value. Send me a message (or a text if you have my number) if you fancy it.
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PP - I'd agree with all of that, especially the bit about your dodgy hearing
No-one going to attempt a review of ATP? Or are the people from here who went still recovering?
It was the first time I've been to ATP, although I knew the format. I went more to see the Elephant 6 bands than anything else and they didn't disappoint. I didn't try to run around like a mad thing seeing as much as possible, although to be fair I think the lineup was a bit sparse so there weren't any clashes and there were definitely gaps in which there was nothing I wanted to see, but in a way this was nice because it gave you time to chill out or check out bands I didn't know.
The festival itself was exactly as I expected it'd be. Plenty of hipsters, people talking through sets (special credit to the 3 young girls who felt the need to scream "OH MY GOD!" repeatedly at the tops of their voices all the way through Jeff's first set) and people who had obviously spent most of the previous week perfecting their 'festival look'. But also lots of lovely people too and it was nice to see most of the bands walking around enjoying the weekend and happy to chat. Chalets were better than expected...we had a microwave and a dishwasher and tv's in the bedrooms!
Communication from ATP wasn't great while we were there...didn't manage to do the quiz because we didn't know you had to register a team the day before and while we were queuing for Jeff's show on Sunday the security people asked us if we had 'priority purple wristbands' which apparently were being given out somewhere during the weekend. I'd say a good 90% of the people queuing had no idea about this or where they could have got one from.
The music:
Jeff - I was sceptical before I saw him that he wouldn't live up to the hype, but he proved me wrong. I managed to get in to both his shows (I wasn't planning to see him twice, but on the strength of Friday's show I had to go back on Sunday), although I feel sorry for the people who didn't manage to get in. I've never seen a queue like it (people queued from 9pm and he wasn't on until 10.30pm) and it was one of a few things that annoyed me about ATP's organisation. Totally worth seeing though. He played all the expected songs plus a fair few not on 'aeroplane' and it was really quite surreal finally seeing those songs played live. The atmosphere couldn't have been better and I'm really looking forward to seeing him again tomorrow night at Union Chapel.
The Music Tapes - probably my band of the weekend. Julian Koster is without exception the nicest person I've ever met. He plays the singing saw pretty well too. They had Static and the Mechanical Organ Playing Tower with them which was fun. I'm glad they're supporting Jeff at the Union Chapel so I can see them again.
Boredoms - what an amazing group. I have to admit though that when I saw them on Sunday afternoon I couldn't stay long...5 drum kits and 14 guitarists really isn't bearable at the volume they play with the kind of hangover I had, but still an incredible show.
The Magnetic Fields, The Apples in Sereo and The Olivia Tremor Control were excellent too...I was smiling most of the weekend at the realisation that I could see so many Elephant 6 people at the same festival. Just disappointed that The Minders weren't there, otherwise it would have been perfect.
Low and The Fall - boring. Other people seemed to like them, but they were average. I've seen them before and they didn't excite me this time.
Lost in the Trees, A Hawk and a Hacksaw and Mount Eerie all played beautiful sets. Unfortunately I arrived too late to see the whole of A Hawk and a Hacksaw's set and couldn't see the film to which they were playing the soundtrack but would have loved to see it all.
I finished with some Group Doueh before retiring back to my chalet for a much needed cup of tea. I wanted to see Sebadoh, which I was informed afterwards was crazy, but I've seen them before and I really was ready to drop.
Overall verdict? I'm not sure I'd go to ATP again unless the lineup was unmissable, but overall it was a fun weekend with some truly memorable moments and I'm glad I went.
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You need to scroll down to the third post, underneath the details of what you get:
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If you all think the bands don't know and endorse this then you're dreaming. Where do you think the ticket money goes?
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I do actually think the last album was pretty damn good - certainly better than the so-so previous few.
Of course Jason and Sonic should just kiss and make up, reform the Spacemen, crank it up the riffs and make us all happy : )
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I'm not a regular and haven't even been EOTR before, but can someone show me where to start with Grandaddy, album-wise. I've heard bits from them over the years, and the announcement has increased my interest in getting a ticket. Just wondering which album to start with.
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Really hope it's not Spiritualized. They're on a long slow, downward slide. Every album mooted as a return to form, when it never really is. Should have knocked it on the head 15 years ago.
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