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On 4/13/2024 at 1:00 PM, nathanh said:
Having just watched Lanas Coachella headline slot I am so ready for her headline on the saturday
Also why are we so certain Fred will close out?
He's listed above her on the Leeds website if you click on the acts by stage.
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37 minutes ago, Benj said:
The younger market is no longer selling out the festival though and they seem to have turned off a lot of the older crowd over the, thankfully shortlived, 2 main stage era, with no one else to see why Willow Smith, Mimi Webb etc are on....
It would be interesting if they could encourage those people back with blatant nostalgia grabs, given its clearly something that sells so well now.Its obvious a richer demographic more likely to spend more on-site too, so FR must be desperate to court them back, having lost them to the smaller festivals etc...
I haven't been to Leeds since 2019 but the Sunday run of Fred-Lana-Raye was too good to pass up, it'll be interesting to see how full it is on the Sunday as I think that top three will be a big pull for all ages, Im 42.
If the Chevron stage is a success that will pull in a different crowd to previous years, in previous years there was no where on the R&L lineup for the likes of The Prodigy to play. We'll be seeing Goddard on that stage on the Sunday to see what that stage is like.
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23 hours ago, Benj said:
That’s the thing they’re all back now, even the likes of Shed 7, Echobelly, Sleeper, Cast… The Courteeners equivalents of the time, 2-3 massive numbers that were indie club stalwarts, amongst a general sea of dross, have had new records out in the last 3-4 years and Reading hasn’t come close to touching them.
They were cast out by the new generation
Ultimately I think the ‘indie’ scene has just not changed since the mid to late 00s. It’s not been THE scene like Britpop was in the late 90s.
Arctic Monkeys turned up, set the standard and nothing new or better has come along to kill off the likes of Courteeners etc. They’ve not been cast out and there has been nothing new to replace them.
‘Dark Fruits’ has become its own thing, a niche, throw back sub genre that in and of itself has only produced one bona fide new star (Although harsh perhaps to pigeon hole Fender like that) that I can think of.
…oh and Catfish I guess, if they can be classed as a bona fide star. They’re the perfect example of endless chances I guess.
Suede, Travis, Stereophonics all headlined in the late 90s /early 2000s for the first time and never played the festival again.
Same for Franz Ferdinand and Razorlight in the mid 00s
All bands that were relatively new (on 3rd, 4th LPs at most), suddenly gone and easily replaced by the festival.
I guess they’d kill for a similar carousel of replaceable talent these days
Suede, Travis ect dont need to worry about playing R&L again though as there's that many smaller festivals and city festivals/weekenders popping up, there's more of a broader market for these bands to make a return or keep going.
There's a new weekender in my home town of Hull this August, I'm off to one night headlined by Ocean Colour Scene, with Cast and Embrace supporting, the final night is headlined by Razorlight. Then theres Tramlines and the Butlins weekenders that have given these bands a new lease of life on the festival/weekender circuit.
Leeds has always tried to cater to a younger market, this year feels like a rebrand though after the 2 main stage experiment.
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1 hour ago, Benj said:
It’s interesting that Courteeners, Kooks etc have managed to maintain a reasonably credible and ongoing live demand, while so many of those bands for our youth OCS, Shed Seven, Suede, Manics, Travis etc… were all cast adrift, despite many of them being much bigger and better than acts from the 00s that still manage to get a gig.
There was definitely a shift at some point, where kids didn’t chuck away bands when they lost their cool/ initial interest.
I think the cut off was pretty much over night too, it’s mad to think Franz Ferdinand have been completley abandoned in the UK as a credible act while the Courteeners are being touted as a potential big name at Reading by some.
Reckon it was around 2006-2007 things changed
The one the baffles me to this day is The Wombats, not a clue how they've managed to stay relevant.
Franz is a weird one, brilliant live at their peak but just a bit to weird to stay the course. Shed Seven had numerous farewell tours, remember in the early 2000's they had one, yet here they are this year with a number 1 album going on a tour later this year.
I think the Butlins weekenders and festivals like Tramlines, which I've done for the past 3 years, which is heavy on older bands and then have new and old indie bands headline have rekindled peoples love for those bands, and given them a new audience.
I saw James for the first time at Tramlines in 2022 and they were incredible, but the bands of the weekend were The Vaccines and Kasabian on the saturday night, Bloc Party were the band of the weekend for me last year.
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18 minutes ago, Benj said:
Yup, deffo makes sense. You no longer have to wait for the artist you like to release something new, you have instant access to algorithm defined alternatives that meet your needs.
It’s interesting as part of this that the whole nostalgia thing has kicked off so much too though.
New acts aren’t replacing old ones like they used to, while once bands would go away and slowly die, they now seem to have a second wind.
The discussion earlier re dark fruits and kids still being into the likes of Courteeners, Liam Gallagher etc instead of properly embracing the next new thing, Lathums, Snuts etc. Is it because there is a whole back catalogue there from the discovery?
I love a bit of Nostalgia. I havent got many gigs booked this year as I've got a couple of family holidays planned. As well as Leeds for the day I'm off to see Liam in June, Def Maybe is my favorite Oasis album and I missed Knebworth as I already had things booked for my 40th. My other gig is Ocean Colour Scene in my hometown in August, they were the first band I ever saw when I was 15 years old. That being said I've got two friends coming to Leeds this year to see Fred Again who have never been to a festival before.
I think kids being into Courteeners Liam etc is because they have songs that are massive, Not Nineteen Forever gets played at every indie night I've ever been to since the song came out.
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9 hours ago, Benj said:
I’m probably not the best to judge but there seems to be a real dirth of acts that generate any type of proper excitement at the mo…
Im probably missing some obvious examples but there doesn’t seem to have been a Billie Eilish or Post Malone type, who’d absolutely pack the main stage out of while not headlining.
Im not just talking about Reading but the whole scene in general?
Is it a TikTok thing? Are new acts too diluted now, just a commodity? Are they over exposed, is all the mystique gone?
As said I’m sure I’m missing some, Fred Again is the only one that comes slightly close to mind… why is there such a dirth of new acts that collective masses are excited by?
And to keep it Reading specific which relatively new/ lowish down act on the bill do people think will generate the most collective excitement come August?
In my opinion its because music is so easily accessible online. Years ago bands, in the days of going out and buying cds, bands would get large followings as you'd buy a cd/lp and play it relentlessly, that doesn't happen anymore.
I have music on at work everyday and everyday im playing different music to the day before, apart from a few bands or when a new album drops.
It takes someone pretty unique now, like Fred Again, to unite the masses, his music does seem to have connected with people in a way I haven't seen for a while.
I haven't been to Leeds since 2019 but the pull of seeing Fred Again and Lana on the same day has got my coming back, the only other acts that have pulled me back to Leeds have been Kendrick in 2018, and TOP/Billie Eilish in 2019.
Its months away and I'm already hoping Fred will be an all timer for me.
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Lana had guests at both Coachella sets, it'll be interesting to see if she has guests at any of her European festival appearances, if she does she's probably bringing someone on stage at R&L.