T-Mouse Posted August 2, 2022 Report Share Posted August 2, 2022 28 minutes ago, stuie said: Geniunely curious here, sorry for ignorance but what is the appeal for pop with South Korean lyrics? I imagine the same for any popular music sung in another language. The melody. The fashion. The performance. All play their part. English speaking rock bands tend to do very well in Asia. It works both ways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moogster Posted August 3, 2022 Report Share Posted August 3, 2022 8 hours ago, stuie said: Geniunely curious here, sorry for ignorance but what is the appeal for pop with South Korean lyrics? Well I didn't understand English until mid mid/late teens and it didn't stop me from enjoying sometimes questionable English singing artists. The image of course but simply the music, the flow of the language, a couple of easy random words to belt along too. That's how you got French kids singing "like a virgin woo" in the 80s . Luckily French parents didn't understand the lyrics either. I think for K pop people do seek out translations regularly (thanks to the INternet), and the uber fans try to learn Korean too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuie Posted August 3, 2022 Report Share Posted August 3, 2022 9 hours ago, T-Mouse said: I imagine the same for any popular music sung in another language. The melody. The fashion. The performance. All play their part. English speaking rock bands tend to do very well in Asia. It works both ways. We don’t have a history of music in another language at UK festivals though (do we?) so although I understand your point, I’m not clear why we’re expecting it to appear at R/L and Glastonbury. I’m not against it by the way, just wondering! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 3, 2022 Report Share Posted August 3, 2022 51 minutes ago, stuie said: We don’t have a history of music in another language at UK festivals though (do we?) so although I understand your point, I’m not clear why we’re expecting it to appear at R/L and Glastonbury. I’m not against it by the way, just wondering! Because it’s popular. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEGATRONICMEATWAGON Posted August 3, 2022 Report Share Posted August 3, 2022 I can't see any K-pop group headlining unless there were too many acts already on tours and busy etc, and they didn't even want to put Foals in there 😛 And even then, I can't see them getting a huge crowd, especially as people buy tickets before the headliners are announced. Although I suppose, once they release said K-pop group as a headliner, some people might cancel their tickets allowing genuine K-pop fans to get them. Even including people who go to see what all the fuss is about, it sounds a bit gimmicky. Would the fest have had N-Sync or Backstreet Boys headline at the top of their powers? They would have been a hard no and rightly so. At least with a Beyonce/Gaga/Swift, they feel less commercial than boy/girl bands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEGATRONICMEATWAGON Posted August 3, 2022 Report Share Posted August 3, 2022 11 hours ago, T-Mouse said: I imagine the same for any popular music sung in another language. The melody. The fashion. The performance. All play their part. English speaking rock bands tend to do very well in Asia. It works both ways. It works both ways in the ratio that US/UK export 90% of their music, while only importing 10% of "world" music. Save for the odd summer Spanish pop song from J-Lo, Shakira, Ricky Martin, perhaps even the odd French song, there's not a lot of non-English songs played in the UK on the radio or in people's homes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muppetmark Posted August 3, 2022 Report Share Posted August 3, 2022 8 minutes ago, MEGATRONICMEATWAGON said: I can't see any K-pop group headlining unless there were too many acts already on tours and busy etc, and they didn't even want to put Foals in there 😛 And even then, I can't see them getting a huge crowd, especially as people buy tickets before the headliners are announced. Although I suppose, once they release said K-pop group as a headliner, some people might cancel their tickets allowing genuine K-pop fans to get them. Even including people who go to see what all the fuss is about, it sounds a bit gimmicky. Would the fest have had N-Sync or Backstreet Boys headline at the top of their powers? They would have been a hard no and rightly so. At least with a Beyonce/Gaga/Swift, they feel less commercial than boy/girl bands. People were asking for kpop bands to appear not headline. Have one on the middle of the day on pyramid/other etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEGATRONICMEATWAGON Posted August 3, 2022 Report Share Posted August 3, 2022 1 minute ago, Muppetmark said: People were asking for kpop bands to appear not headline. Have one on the middle of the day on pyramid/other etc I know, I know, I totally agree, but I was discussing with someone about them headlining, so just wanted to throw my two cents in about them headlining. There must be some kpop groups who are happy for Pyramid at 4pm on a Sat afternoon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt42 Posted August 3, 2022 Report Share Posted August 3, 2022 12 hours ago, stuie said: Geniunely curious here, sorry for ignorance but what is the appeal for pop with South Korean lyrics? Cute boys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt42 Posted August 3, 2022 Report Share Posted August 3, 2022 11 minutes ago, Muppetmark said: People were asking for kpop bands to appear not headline. Have one on the middle of the day on pyramid/other etc And my view is that’s unlikely. K Pop is so manufactured it makes X Factor look genuine. They produce acts from a factory convey-belt. K Pop management will drop an act if they are not “headlining” things around the world. There is no mid-tier! They don’t let mid-tier survive! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuie Posted August 3, 2022 Report Share Posted August 3, 2022 35 minutes ago, Matt42 said: Cute boys Fair enough! 😆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEGABOWL Posted August 3, 2022 Report Share Posted August 3, 2022 On 7/27/2022 at 7:39 AM, moogster said: + she's kind of a local! Her last set was indeed sub-other and I don't think the crowd was really big. On the other hand, shitty weather and post Brexit vote blues did gave it quite an edge. It wasn’t very big. Great set in a fairly grim setting. But the scheduling was a bit shit that night. She was up against Beck which I’m certain split the crowd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Croc Posted August 16, 2022 Report Share Posted August 16, 2022 Super random shout but I saw The B-52's are doing a farewell tour this year. No idea if they've played Glasto before but feel like they could be a fun booking somewhere. Late slot on Avalon maybe? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfa Posted August 16, 2022 Report Share Posted August 16, 2022 I missed the K-Pop discussion here's my thoughts Won't get queues like that Lolla show as nobody k-pop will even be trying to get glastonbury tickets most likely as they won't think k pop will even be there. First k pop act to get a decent slot might be interested as a landmark statement sort of thing (Blackpink maybe?), but i doubt BTS or whoever are lining up Regarding K-pop type music only happening in Korea, it could probably be compared to reggaeton which has become huge recently, possibly even bigger than k pop with acts like daddy yankee, bad bunny etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfa Posted August 16, 2022 Report Share Posted August 16, 2022 On 8/3/2022 at 10:24 AM, Matt42 said: And my view is that’s unlikely. K Pop is so manufactured it makes X Factor look genuine. They produce acts from a factory convey-belt. K Pop management will drop an act if they are not “headlining” things around the world. There is no mid-tier! They don’t let mid-tier survive! We still let Wet Leg play though? /s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEGATRONICMEATWAGON Posted August 16, 2022 Report Share Posted August 16, 2022 On 7/27/2022 at 8:39 AM, moogster said: + she's kind of a local! Her last set was indeed sub-other and I don't think the crowd was really big. On the other hand, shitty weather and post Brexit vote blues did gave it quite an edge. I saw her in Porto once and she was fantastic. I can imagine during the post-Brexit festival how her 'Let England Shake' tunes went down, ha! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEGATRONICMEATWAGON Posted August 16, 2022 Report Share Posted August 16, 2022 1 hour ago, gfa said: We still let Wet Leg play though? /s Are Wet Leg heavily manufactured? Genuine question, don't know much about them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrundle The Great Posted August 18, 2022 Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 On 8/16/2022 at 2:05 PM, MEGATRONICMEATWAGON said: Are Wet Leg heavily manufactured? Genuine question, don't know much about them. Now that somebody has suggested they are I can’t shake the feeling that they might be. I had been curious as to how they just appeared seemingly from nowhere and so perfectly formed but never gave it a second thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superscally Posted August 18, 2022 Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 30 minutes ago, Chrundle The Great said: Now that somebody has suggested they are I can’t shake the feeling that they might be. I had been curious as to how they just appeared seemingly from nowhere and so perfectly formed but never gave it a second thought. They're not manufactured at all, but they clearly got picked for a push. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEGATRONICMEATWAGON Posted August 18, 2022 Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 4 minutes ago, Superscally said: They're not manufactured at all, but they clearly got picked for a push. It's like the chicken or the egg debate. What came first. Were Wet Leg destined to be big before they got pushed, or did they get big because they were pushed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt42 Posted August 18, 2022 Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 On 8/16/2022 at 2:05 PM, MEGATRONICMEATWAGON said: Are Wet Leg heavily manufactured? Genuine question, don't know much about them. They are definitely industry backed. Nothing wrong with industry backing if people like it, but they are getting pushed in a way that I haven’t seen for a while with an indie band. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moogster Posted August 18, 2022 Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Matt42 said: They are definitely industry backed. Nothing wrong with industry backing if people like it, but they are getting pushed in a way that I haven’t seen for a while with an indie band. Yeah a friend of mine who is more of a casual follower of new music told me she got nagged through some newsletter to check it out and pre-order the album way at the beginning. Thought it was a bit unusual. Edited August 18, 2022 by moogster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProperTea Posted August 18, 2022 Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 If I remember correctly there was a guy working for a label who was posting in the run up to the 2020 festival that Blackpink had been booked to play? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt42 Posted August 18, 2022 Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 10 minutes ago, ProperTea said: If I remember correctly there was a guy working for a label who was posting in the run up to the 2020 festival that Blackpink had been booked to play? They are in Aus next June so probably not playing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Croc Posted August 18, 2022 Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Superscally said: They're not manufactured at all, but they clearly got picked for a push. I actually first heard them through Dave Grohl talking about them saying they would have Chaise Longue on repeat at parties Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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