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13 minutes ago, sedra said:

😂 we couldn’t believe the number of scousers we heard everywhere and we were surrounded by them in Sticklinch- the man of the  couple next door didn’t even have a festival wristband 🙄

Worthy View was like merseyside

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9 minutes ago, northernringo said:

Not sure how unpopular this opinion is, but there shouldn't be a stage named after someone who married a 15 year old (John Peel).

Yeah - it's a bit of mystery why they proudly have his name on a stage given what we know about him.

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1 hour ago, Barry Fish said:

I think we can sleep comfortably when Greta speaks out about climate change and american women speak out over the rights to their own bodies that it comes from the heart.

I think the originally poster basically has his head up his arse on this one.

Who are you and what have you done with Barry? This interloper keeps talking sense.

Anyone who thinks that those who protested this decision over the festival were virtue signalling, ie making a statement because they reckon it will garner approval, rather than because they actually believe it, is clearly a fool who should be dismissed out of hand. 

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2 hours ago, K2SO said:

There is too much focus on the dance/electronic music areas.

They dominate the nightlife; Pretty much everything on after headliners is some sort of DJ playing drum and bass, house, rave, etc... But comparitively very little of live music. I'd love to see more focus on different sorts of live music post-headliners. Whether it's local bands, tribute acts, open mic, etc. I just find next to no appeal to the nightlife due to the type of music that is played, as well as the sort of characters it seems to bring out.

I find that the dance music is what brings the utter tossers to the festival. The sort that piss up the side of a wall, push through crowds with no regards for others, etc. I don't like to stereotype it, but you know the type of person I mean. People in their early 20s, lads with a bucket hat, sunglasses and an open shirt, or girls wearing what is essentially a bikini with the same headgear... often with some sort of neon paint on their body.

I'm not saying to completely get rid of these areas, but I do feel like there needs to be less focus on it.

Hear hear. It feels like there is SO little variety.

Having walked through it every day and night, Silver Hayes just felt like a constant stream of techno/drum and bass. And it felt pretty quiet a lot of the time, probably because there are other areas treading that same ground very effectively.

Carl Cox on the Glade on Saturday was banging and yet it felt like something of an outlier because there wasn't a tonne of that stuff going on late at night.

Also... look at how packed out Williams Green gets on a Thursday. Or Baggy Mondays. Or Deptford Northern Soul club. Look at how rammed stuff like Ultimate Power is on Sunday night. I think Glasto could benefit from more along those lines.

Similarly, Glasto likes to bang the drum for Block 9 as a queer space. It's fantastic. But does it need to be the *only* queer space? Outside of NYC Downlow - which feels increasingly more exclusive given how long it takes to get in there - where are the drag acts?

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14 minutes ago, LinvoyPrimus said:

Hear hear. It feels like there is SO little variety.

Having walked through it every day and night, Silver Hayes just felt like a constant stream of techno/drum and bass. And it felt pretty quiet a lot of the time, probably because there are other areas treading that same ground very effectively.

Carl Cox on the Glade on Saturday was banging and yet it felt like something of an outlier because there wasn't a tonne of that stuff going on late at night.

Also... look at how packed out Williams Green gets on a Thursday. Or Baggy Mondays. Or Deptford Northern Soul club. Look at how rammed stuff like Ultimate Power is on Sunday night. I think Glasto could benefit from more along those lines.

Similarly, Glasto likes to bang the drum for Block 9 as a queer space. It's fantastic. But does it need to be the *only* queer space? Outside of NYC Downlow - which feels increasingly more exclusive given how long it takes to get in there - where are the drag acts?

Massively agree on this. My girlfriend and her mate LOVE drag acts and they were disappointed to find there was nowhere to go and watch a drag show!

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2 hours ago, K2SO said:

There is too much focus on the dance/electronic music areas.

They dominate the nightlife; Pretty much everything on after headliners is some sort of DJ playing drum and bass, house, rave, etc... But comparitively very little of live music. I'd love to see more focus on different sorts of live music post-headliners. Whether it's local bands, tribute acts, open mic, etc. I just find next to no appeal to the nightlife due to the type of music that is played, as well as the sort of characters it seems to bring out.

I find that the dance music is what brings the utter tossers to the festival. The sort that piss up the side of a wall, push through crowds with no regards for others, etc. I don't like to stereotype it, but you know the type of person I mean. People in their early 20s, lads with a bucket hat, sunglasses and an open shirt, or girls wearing what is essentially a bikini with the same headgear... often with some sort of neon paint on their body.

I'm not saying to completely get rid of these areas, but I do feel like there needs to be less focus on it.

This year I found the SE corner crowd much friendlier than at several main stage gigs. Saturday night when we ran out of water and needed some so many people helped us out in the SEC. People were passing stuff round and sharing - it was what the festival should be. At Macca, Wet Leg and particularly Sam Fender people were getting really annoyed at us passing through, even in areas where there was plenty of room to do so, and we were being very friendly about it. 

TBH your post comes across like you’re (and I’m sure you’re not) a judgemental prick who doesn’t get the “don’t be a dick” ethos. It’s ok to be annoyed about people who are being dicks, but don’t be a dick about it, yeah? 

There are also plenty of non electronic late night options. Three of my best gigs of the festival were guitar bands in the Rocket Lounge, on Truth and at Small World - post-midnight. 

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55 minutes ago, northernringo said:

Not sure how unpopular this opinion is, but there shouldn't be a stage named after someone who married a 15 year old (John Peel).

I was never a massive fan, but thought he came across as a great guy.  But even having got impression of him, I think this has got to be the right decision.   The one he married was not a one-off either, according to Wikipedia quotes from the man himself.  This stuff matters.      

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2 hours ago, Barry Fish said:

I think we can sleep comfortably when Greta speaks out about climate change and american women speak out over the rights to their own bodies that it comes from the heart.

I think the originally poster basically has his head up his arse on this one.

Fuck me, I agree with Barry 😂 

1 hour ago, CaledonianGonzo said:

We saw an absolutely shit-hot, Stonesy teenage R'n'B band tear the roof of the Rocket Lounge on the Wednesday night.

 

Los Dedos took it off again on Thursday, and they had Ska on afterwards. 

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12 minutes ago, blutarsky said:

There are also plenty of non electronic late night options. Three of my best gigs of the festival were guitar bands in the Rocket Lounge, on Truth and at Small World - post-midnight. 

There's most definitely good live stuff out there - I think what K2SO is saying is that needs to be more of a dedicated space. The late night stuff feels dominated by DJs of a certain persuasion, whether that's in the SE Corner, or The Park, or The Glade, or Greenpeace.

I love a lot of that stuff. I also love live music. I think more of a balance would be cool - it feels like there used to be more of that, but less so now.

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1 hour ago, blutarsky said:

This year I found the SE corner crowd much friendlier than at several main stage gigs. Saturday night when we ran out of water and needed some so many people helped us out in the SEC. People were passing stuff round and sharing - it was what the festival should be. At Macca, Wet Leg and particularly Sam Fender people were getting really annoyed at us passing through, even in areas where there was plenty of room to do so, and we were being very friendly about it. 

TBH your post comes across like you’re (and I’m sure you’re not) a judgemental prick who doesn’t get the “don’t be a dick” ethos. It’s ok to be annoyed about people who are being dicks, but don’t be a dick about it, yeah? 

There are also plenty of non electronic late night options. Three of my best gigs of the festival were guitar bands in the Rocket Lounge, on Truth and at Small World - post-midnight. 

Suppose we all have different experiences mate. Just to me any time I've ever been near Silver Hayes, it's full of the sort of people that you'd rather avoid. I think the SE corner and Arcadia are a bit different because pretty much everyone heads to those areas post-headliners because that's where things are on so you get more of a spread.

As I said, I feel like the focus on dance/electronic music just needs to be toned down a little, not completely annihilated. For me, I'd solve the issue of late-night entetainment by spreading some things throughout the site. I feel like maybe keeping John Peel open (if that's even possible?) after hours for like indie discos, tribute bands, etc could help out. Not only would it give more variation of things to do, but it would also spread the crowds out more than they currently are.

There's another little potentially controversial opinion though... I think there should be more tribute bands playing. We already have The Bootleg Beatles and Elvana... why not get some more in for Wednesday/Thursday/After-hours entertainment? Get some tributes for the likes of The Stones, Queen, Oasis, Madness, etc. I think it would go down well

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3 hours ago, CaledonianGonzo said:

We saw an absolutely shit-hot, Stonesy teenage R'n'B band tear the roof of the Rocket Lounge on the Wednesday night.

 

Yes! Who were they? We saw about half an hour of them and everyone in our group loved it. 

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2 hours ago, LinvoyPrimus said:

I love a lot of that stuff. I also love live music. I think more of a balance would be cool - it feels like there used to be more of that, but less so now.

One factor might be the strong overlap between electronic/dance fans & people who want to stay up all night partying. 

I suspect it would be a lot more difficult to programme & plan larger capacity venues for other genres late through the night. 

As has been pointed out, the much tinier venues like small world have live non-electronic acts on late. And they’re never especially crowded - doesn’t really indicate massive demand…? 

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I had gone in with the kind of expectation that this would be the big reimagining of the 50th birthday celebration and all be a bit special because it was the first glastonbury after 2 cancellations, but it was just a run of the mill year and didn't feel special particularly.  A decent year but not one of the greats.

The replacement of the big ass food and coffee tents with smaller individual vendors, combined with the poor campsite toilet provision made it less of a proposition to hang around camp as it was either a queue for a coffee, a queue for a breakfast item or a queue for the loos.  May as well be out and about where the scenery is a bit more attractive and you can grab a drink, a bite or a wee with less queuing and better variety.

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I agree somewhat about the late night stuff.  I tend to be on my own, looking for live music to see after the headliners but never know where to head.  I could try a number of places including Bimble Inn and William's Green,  but as I'm never really sure what to expect, I often just choose not to bother as the thought of trecking somewhere to find it's full or not really enjoyable on your own isn't worth the walk there and back.  If there was a dedicated live music area, at least I could explore the different options all in one place. It really does feel that after headliners is really mainly dance etc.

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7 hours ago, Tranquility of Solitude said:

Gonna add this in here, because it’s the best place for it..... loads of people in the top 3 sets putting Kendrick in there. I wasn’t there so have just watched it on iPlayer. God it was terrible.

I was there and can confirm I didn’t rate it. 

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8 hours ago, Billy Corgans hair said:

Indie Disco at the JP is such a good idea!

Our group spoke about how wandering around after the headliners every single stage, area, event sounded exactly the same and that we couldn't differentiate between what was being played at each one.

 

This post sounds like you're over 60.

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14 hours ago, balthazarstarbuck said:

Can’t stand the place. Miles away from everything else, terrible sound and vantage. Trying to do too much packed into too small a space.

Think I’m just gonna pretend it doesn’t exist for festivals going forward. Elvis could come back from the dead but if he’s on Park I won’t be there.

Ha, the Park along with the Greenfields area are the best bits for me. For nearly every band the Park is fine as it is - there's the VERY occasional Wet Leg moment, but no need the whole thing for that. Good stuff up at the Crow's Nest  - I watched Porridge Radio this year, the hill, ribbon tower, rabbit hole etc. 

The SEC for me. Loads of great venues, but all geared up to some sort of dance music after hours. I've never been into pills, and find it hard to understand that anyone can get into all that without those 😀. Would be nice to have some of these venues dedicated to music other than dance.

Edit: Just read the comments on the last page and loads are saying the same as me already 😀

 

 

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11 hours ago, LinvoyPrimus said:

There's most definitely good live stuff out there - I think what K2SO is saying is that needs to be more of a dedicated space. The late night stuff feels dominated by DJs of a certain persuasion, whether that's in the SE Corner, or The Park, or The Glade, or Greenpeace.

I love a lot of that stuff. I also love live music. I think more of a balance would be cool - it feels like there used to be more of that, but less so now.

I was surprised with Greenpeace. Food places taken out since my last visit, and that tree thing turned into ANOTHER dance area after hours 🙄. Admittedly I caught a small bit of Katy J Pearson on the little stage there one day.

It doesn't even need to be live music for me - I sometimes catch stuff in Toad Hall, but DJs playing something other than dance in a specific venue would be good. 

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