stuie Posted April 28, 2022 Report Share Posted April 28, 2022 38 minutes ago, incident said: Not impossible, but there's a series of rules that vary based various factors including type of vehicle, route and time. For example in some cases even when a vehicle is permitted, it needs to travel at walking speed and have a Marshall walking in front as an escort. 29 minutes ago, Leyrulion said: Which would render any shuttle a bit pointless. I guess they could do something which had 1 drop off point in the interstage compound. That might be more possible and appease. What about round the outside of the fence? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarw Posted April 28, 2022 Report Share Posted April 28, 2022 27 minutes ago, Leyrulion said: Which would render any shuttle a bit pointless. I guess they could do something which had 1 drop off point in the interstage compound. That might be more possible and appease. They could drop off at each vehicle gate couldn’t they? Use the perimeter track and that would cut down the walk. And make it easier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarw Posted April 28, 2022 Report Share Posted April 28, 2022 Anyway this is the map thread and probably not the place to discuss volunteer problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deaf Nobby Burton Posted April 29, 2022 Report Share Posted April 29, 2022 (edited) 8 hours ago, TASHMA BWABWE said: I saw the car park map was published recently. Is the festival map generally made available shortly after that and therefore this is an indication it's imminent? It wasn’t so much published but became available within the planning information. I don’t think there is much correlation in the sense that the festival will make the map available to us when they want to. One thing we can say which is obvious is that with only 50 ish days to go we should get it relatively imminently as a matter of course. Edited April 29, 2022 by Deaf Nobby Burton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havors Posted April 29, 2022 Report Share Posted April 29, 2022 The most logical solutions would be to ensure staff access routes through the festival i.e. walkways only staff can access to cut through the festival where possible and not have to walk miles out of the way to get around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incident Posted April 29, 2022 Report Share Posted April 29, 2022 1 minute ago, Havors said: The most logical solutions would be to ensure staff access routes through the festival i.e. walkways only staff can access to cut through the festival where possible and not have to walk miles out of the way to get around. There are, in some locations. But that doesn't really solve the issue, more mitigates it very slightly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havors Posted April 29, 2022 Report Share Posted April 29, 2022 7 minutes ago, incident said: There are, in some locations. But that doesn't really solve the issue, more mitigates it very slightly. More locations, less walking. Problem solved? 😄 It's a festival and everyone needs to be prepared to have to walk quite a bit, just mitigating the length of the walks pre and post shifts would make a world of difference. I dont think its practical or expected to have everyone shuttled around door to door. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jfaragher Posted April 29, 2022 Report Share Posted April 29, 2022 14 hours ago, tarw said: They could drop off at each vehicle gate couldn’t they? Use the perimeter track and that would cut down the walk. And make it easier. The perimeter track isn't suitable for anything much larger than a landrover in places. And you're not really supposed to use it unless you are security. I've driven for Oxfam, and we do try to get as many people as possible a lift to the really far places (Pennards, Worthy View, what was West Campers) - with typical traffic it can take nearly half an hour to get to those, and during the show there is no way that you would (or be allowed) to drive across the site, instead you have to use the various roads around the edge of the site, both inside and out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incident Posted April 29, 2022 Report Share Posted April 29, 2022 Just now, Havors said: More locations, less walking. Problem solved? 😄 It's a festival and everyone needs to be prepared to have to walk quite a bit, just mitigating the length of the walks pre and post shifts would make a world of difference. I dont think its practical or expected to have everyone shuttled around door to door. Equally, I don't think it's reasonable to expect volunteer staff (specifically thinking of those who aren't primarily there for the free ticket but instead to support their kids after school club) to have to walk over an hour to or from shift locations even with shortcuts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jefwefwef Posted April 29, 2022 Report Share Posted April 29, 2022 On 4/27/2022 at 11:01 AM, northernringo said: Hi Carl I literally just got this joke today, in the shower. I've been wondering why the fuck you were calling me Carl. I had even seen the Carl Cox/Arcadia nonsense happen as it unfolded, I had all the information I needed at the time. Joke was simply not found in my brain. Today, though, it finally clicked into place. I had to tell you, as it was a good joke and I do (now) appreciate it. "lol" 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueDaze Posted April 29, 2022 Report Share Posted April 29, 2022 17 minutes ago, jefwefwef said: I literally just got this joke today, in the shower. I've been wondering why the fuck you were calling me Carl. I had even seen the Carl Cox/Arcadia nonsense happen as it unfolded, I had all the information I needed at the time. Joke was simply not found in my brain. Today, though, it finally clicked into place. I had to tell you, as it was a good joke and I do (now) appreciate it. "lol" wait till you go to his stand up show... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havors Posted April 29, 2022 Report Share Posted April 29, 2022 1 hour ago, incident said: Equally, I don't think it's reasonable to expect volunteer staff (specifically thinking of those who aren't primarily there for the free ticket but instead to support their kids after school club) to have to walk over an hour to or from shift locations even with shortcuts. I agree. But with adequate planning it would be simple enough to not have to walk an hour to go on shift. Even if you had to get to the other side of the festival. It's just not going to happen because its not even close to being a priority. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glastomadman Posted April 29, 2022 Report Share Posted April 29, 2022 Would imagine if if the landtrain fails venue's will not met the legal requirement to open? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuartbert two hats Posted April 29, 2022 Report Share Posted April 29, 2022 7 hours ago, jefwefwef said: I literally just got this joke today, in the shower. I've been wondering why the fuck you were calling me Carl. I had even seen the Carl Cox/Arcadia nonsense happen as it unfolded, I had all the information I needed at the time. Joke was simply not found in my brain. Today, though, it finally clicked into place. I had to tell you, as it was a good joke and I do (now) appreciate it. "lol" I thought you were deadpanning your response 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarw Posted April 29, 2022 Report Share Posted April 29, 2022 20 minutes ago, Glastomadman said: Would imagine if if the landtrain fails venue's will not met the legal requirement to open? Previous shift have to stay until they are relieved- as it is now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glastomadman Posted April 29, 2022 Report Share Posted April 29, 2022 So all shifts have the same number of fire stewards to cover this?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havors Posted May 3, 2022 Report Share Posted May 3, 2022 On 4/29/2022 at 8:32 PM, Glastomadman said: So all shifts have the same number of fire stewards to cover this?? There will be a minimum requirement to meet the risk assessments requirements you would imagine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havors Posted May 3, 2022 Report Share Posted May 3, 2022 15 minutes ago, SGS said: not quite but close - if you had (for example 10 stewards at the stonebridge bar at midnight, when it has 1,500 people in and around it, you wouldn't need 10 people at 5 am when it is shut, you would only have a few there, who could be redeployed elsewhere in the park if (for example) the rabbit hole got too crowded. The Ribbon tower is the same- if open 3 or 4 people, if shut 2 people Yes. All that would be in the risk assessment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siblin Posted May 4, 2022 Report Share Posted May 4, 2022 (edited) new map is here! Edited May 4, 2022 by siblin 6 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junglist1981 Posted May 4, 2022 Report Share Posted May 4, 2022 Fuuuuuck I was just starting to get my head into work as well lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giantkatestacks Posted May 4, 2022 Report Share Posted May 4, 2022 Waaaah <loses all sense of decorum> 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubick Posted May 4, 2022 Report Share Posted May 4, 2022 Mappe! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giantkatestacks Posted May 4, 2022 Report Share Posted May 4, 2022 <patiently waits for the clever techy person to do the changy, mappy thing> 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junglist1981 Posted May 4, 2022 Report Share Posted May 4, 2022 Beat Hotel is replaced by San Remo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siblin Posted May 4, 2022 Report Share Posted May 4, 2022 I notice the glade stage has moved out of the glade and where they had spirit of 71 stage/spike over the years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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