stuie Posted March 20, 2022 Report Share Posted March 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, Deaf Nobby Burton said: The link doesn’t work, but presumably if you’re trying to win planning argument, then the cost of not getting your own way will be somewhat inflated as a means to win such argument? Yes. Normally I’d be cynical of that too but it seems to be true as it’s actually resulted in them not doing it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dukeicon Posted March 20, 2022 Report Share Posted March 20, 2022 6 minutes ago, Deaf Nobby Burton said: The link doesn’t work, but presumably if you’re trying to win planning argument, then the cost of not getting your own way will be somewhat inflated as a means to win such argument? Try this: https://publicaccess.mendip.gov.uk/online-applications/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=documents&keyVal=Q6YWYWKPL7T00 It's the 'ARCADIA REPORT' document. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earth_pig Posted March 20, 2022 Report Share Posted March 20, 2022 I've never bothered with the spider at glasto albeit briefly once as it was always so busy and i prefer the naughty corner, but i went to it when it came to London and it was a brilliant day Sven vath, Groove amada and leftfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxPower Posted March 20, 2022 Report Share Posted March 20, 2022 3 hours ago, Euphoricape said: I'm really excited by this, I've only been once in 2019 so never seen the spider. Awesome news! Yeah snap, I was very just whelmed by the crane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supernintendo Chalmers Posted March 20, 2022 Report Share Posted March 20, 2022 6 minutes ago, Earth_pig said: I've never bothered with the spider at glasto albeit briefly once as it was always so busy and i prefer the naughty corner, but i went to it when it came to London and it was a brilliant day Sven vath, Groove amada and leftfield. Yes, that was a great day. Papa Sven was particularly good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyrulion Posted March 20, 2022 Report Share Posted March 20, 2022 3 hours ago, jimmillen said: It’s hard to see how they could improve the latter given the geography of the site. If they can find a way though that would be great. Flow of people through the Pyramid field is a mess… maybe some sort of one way system? Tricky not to create more problems than it solves though. 🤷♂️ Not parking the bloody ice-cream van on the path would be a great start. Maybe putting double width track down to make the area wider to walk through. Tbh I could see them taking even more out of the camping at the back of it, there was talk of removing west camper van fields so that could replace it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzared Posted March 21, 2022 Report Share Posted March 21, 2022 (edited) 10 hours ago, Earth_pig said: I've never bothered with the spider at glasto albeit briefly once as it was always so busy and i prefer the naughty corner, but i went to it when it came to London and it was a brilliant day Sven vath, Groove amada and leftfield. I'll be really happy if they bring the spider back. In 2017 I'd planned all week to watch the sunday night Arcadia’s Metamorphosis show but I was broken after watching Frank Carter , The killers and then Biffy and couldnt face the hike so ended up staying at the pyramid and watching Ed 😭 such a borefest . Edited March 21, 2022 by gazzared Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattymooz Posted March 21, 2022 Report Share Posted March 21, 2022 Could they be doing both? Spider replacing one of the fields down in the SEC or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatyeti24 Posted March 21, 2022 Report Share Posted March 21, 2022 Aw that's a shame about Pangea. I was looking forward to seeing it evolve, especially as the wind in 2019 stopped it from operating as intended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gooner1990 Posted March 21, 2022 Report Share Posted March 21, 2022 Sorry, not been keeping up with this very well last few days......Pangea has gone and the Spider is back? Is that confirmed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaledonianGonzo Posted March 21, 2022 Report Share Posted March 21, 2022 15 minutes ago, gooner1990 said: Sorry, not been keeping up with this very well last few days......Pangea has gone and the Spider is back? Is that confirmed? No. It's a rumour from one source. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazyfool01 Posted March 21, 2022 Report Share Posted March 21, 2022 19 minutes ago, gooner1990 said: Sorry, not been keeping up with this very well last few days......Pangea has gone and the Spider is back? Is that confirmed? Yeah I’ve a source that says it’s not coming back … that kind of fits with the associated costs of puting Pangea up and taking it down … and the refusal of planning permission Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dukeicon Posted March 21, 2022 Report Share Posted March 21, 2022 1 minute ago, crazyfool1 said: Yeah I’ve a source that says it’s not coming back … that kind of fits with the associated costs of puting Pangea up and taking it down … and the refusal of planning permission The majority and heaviest bit of it is already on site - can't see them taking it down before the festival this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazyfool01 Posted March 21, 2022 Report Share Posted March 21, 2022 1 minute ago, Dukeicon said: The majority and heaviest bit of it is already on site - can't see them taking it down before the festival this year. I’m not sure how long they will get away with it being there …. As it was some months ago it was refused … we will see I guess … I’m sure some of the usual locals will be having words with the council Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gooner1990 Posted March 21, 2022 Report Share Posted March 21, 2022 8 minutes ago, Dukeicon said: The majority and heaviest bit of it is already on site - can't see them taking it down before the festival this year. So do you think possibly it will be there this year and 2023 will be back to the Spider? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dukeicon Posted March 21, 2022 Report Share Posted March 21, 2022 Just now, gooner1990 said: So do you think possibly it will be there this year and 2023 will be back to the Spider? I'm not sure, although considering what is there at the moment, it would seem silly not to use it (unless they are forced to remove it before the usual festival set up time by planning department). Just to get you up to speed with a few things, as you said you missed a few things. Arcadia applied for Planning Permission to keep up what they have there now, it got refused. They re-applied for planning permission with a lot more detail, this also go refused. One of the key issues outlined for keeping it up is the £265,000 cost of putting it up and taking it down each year (staff, cranes, legal certification, etc), this is out of their budget of £484,000 for the area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gooner1990 Posted March 21, 2022 Report Share Posted March 21, 2022 13 minutes ago, Dukeicon said: I'm not sure, although considering what is there at the moment, it would seem silly not to use it (unless they are forced to remove it before the usual festival set up time by planning department). Just to get you up to speed with a few things, as you said you missed a few things. Arcadia applied for Planning Permission to keep up what they have there now, it got refused. They re-applied for planning permission with a lot more detail, this also go refused. One of the key issues outlined for keeping it up is the £265,000 cost of putting it up and taking it down each year (staff, cranes, legal certification, etc), this is out of their budget of £484,000 for the area. Thanks for that. 🙂 I hope there is not a situation where a stripped down Pangea is sat there and not allowed to be used?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuie Posted March 21, 2022 Report Share Posted March 21, 2022 56 minutes ago, gooner1990 said: So do you think possibly it will be there this year and 2023 will be back to the Spider? I was told that they’ve decided to scrap the idea this year rather than spend more time and money developing it for just one more festival. I don’t know how reliable this information is, it’s from my friend who is an artist and knows some of their crew though. I think this is independent to crazyfools source so it may turn out to be true but who knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyT Posted March 21, 2022 Report Share Posted March 21, 2022 To further muddy the waters and make things even more confusing I've had the following info: Basically it's up in the air at the moment. Nothing concrete been decided. Pangea still the easiest option (which is presumably because of the infrastructure which has remained on site) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfa Posted March 21, 2022 Report Share Posted March 21, 2022 I hope Pangea happens given I didn't go in 2019 - would be nice to experience it if its only a 2 year thing. Would love to see the spider though I will be honest 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazyfool01 Posted March 21, 2022 Report Share Posted March 21, 2022 Pangea is untouched as of this morning … some stuff going on at pyramid I’m told … will update with any detail … Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barneym Posted March 21, 2022 Report Share Posted March 21, 2022 I think Pangea was doomed from the start, if it didn’t work in the glorious weather that was 2019 how was it ever going to work, it was too big and basically just a crane without anything attached and you are always going to have issues having a moving object over peoples heads. I know it would have evolved but I really thought it was a bit rubbish. I’ve never been a fan of the spider since it moved (although it was better than the terrible place in 2013) but it was at least spectacular to look at. Total guess but I think we will stick with the crane as long as they can keep the base up for 97 more days!!! And then we will have something to totally new again for 2023, just not sure why they would bring the spider back for just one year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazyfool01 Posted March 21, 2022 Report Share Posted March 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, Barneym said: just not sure why they would bring the spider back for just one year Because it’ works and it’s easy … Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deaf Nobby Burton Posted March 21, 2022 Report Share Posted March 21, 2022 But if Pangea is mostly already there and up, they’re going to have the cost of dismantling and disposing anyway, so Arcadia would just be an additional cost on top of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazyfool01 Posted March 21, 2022 Report Share Posted March 21, 2022 3 minutes ago, Deaf Nobby Burton said: But if Pangea is mostly already there and up, they’re going to have the cost of dismantling and disposing anyway, so Arcadia would just be an additional cost on top of that. That cost will happen … it just depends when …. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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