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Who needs lockdown when bands are cancelling their own tours for people's safety? It's an absolute farce but nobody's fault. Maybe they should be banning these events and giving financial support...but then it's their own choice so it's a weird one. 

Though I'm sure the answer from the government will be (booster) vaccine passports instead of anything meaningful to help...

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6 minutes ago, efcfanwirral said:

Who needs lockdown when bands are cancelling their own tours for people's safety? It's an absolute farce but nobody's fault. Maybe they should be banning these events and giving financial support...but then it's their own choice so it's a weird one. 

Though I'm sure the answer from the government will be (booster) vaccine passports instead of anything meaningful to help...

Pretty sure people can make their own minds up...  They screw over the people who paid out for transport and hotels when they do this.  

I don't think they should get help if they choose to cancel.  Waste of public money.

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12 minutes ago, efcfanwirral said:

Who needs lockdown when bands are cancelling their own tours for people's safety? It's an absolute farce but nobody's fault. Maybe they should be banning these events and giving financial support...but then it's their own choice so it's a weird one. 

Though I'm sure the answer from the government will be (booster) vaccine passports instead of anything meaningful to help...

I think the incentive will very much be not to test if you don't have symptoms...

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11 minutes ago, Barry Fish said:

Pretty sure people can make their own minds up...  They screw over the people who paid out for transport and hotels when they do this.  

I don't think they should get help if they choose to cancel.  Waste of public money.

I agree but the industry is fucked then unless they do away with isolation which obviously isn't an option. If the precedent is to not do gigs at times of high cases, that's at least the next 2-3 months off and who's stupid enough to book venues for December to March/April next year? And if people are still isolating come summer, and it's still so prevalent festival booking could be a nightmare

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56 minutes ago, zahidf said:

Also, WTF is this rubbish?

 

 

Fully believe he actually does not want the pandemic to end (as opposed to Pagel/Deepti who are just very overly cautious with good intentions).

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Can anyone help on a question which was asked at the briefing and me and the missus have been asking as well. When my boys tested positive a few weeks ago we were told they shouldn't do a LFT test for 90 days as the results wouldn't be reliable. But that contradicts the guidance now that you are OK if you show 2 negative LFT tests after a previous positive PCR test. Whitty said it was be because it was LFT tests are less sensitive and show infectiousness better than PCR so why are we being told by test and trace not to do a LFT? Genuinely dont know the answer unless test and trace are giving the wrong guidance to people who have a positive pcr test?

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8 minutes ago, dingbat2 said:

Can anyone help on a question which was asked at the briefing and me and the missus have been asking as well. When my boys tested positive a few weeks ago we were told they shouldn't do a LFT test for 90 days as the results wouldn't be reliable. But that contradicts the guidance now that you are OK if you show 2 negative LFT tests after a previous positive PCR test. Whitty said it was be because it was LFT tests are less sensitive and show infectiousness better than PCR so why are we being told by test and trace not to do a LFT? Genuinely dont know the answer unless test and trace are giving the wrong guidance to people who have a positive pcr test?

Bad advice -  Whitty was spot on

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15 minutes ago, dingbat2 said:

Can anyone help on a question which was asked at the briefing and me and the missus have been asking as well. When my boys tested positive a few weeks ago we were told they shouldn't do a LFT test for 90 days as the results wouldn't be reliable. But that contradicts the guidance now that you are OK if you show 2 negative LFT tests after a previous positive PCR test. Whitty said it was be because it was LFT tests are less sensitive and show infectiousness better than PCR so why are we being told by test and trace not to do a LFT? Genuinely dont know the answer unless test and trace are giving the wrong guidance to people who have a positive pcr test?

It's a pcr test you can still test positive 90 ish days later, not lateral flow i think

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31 minutes ago, Barry Fish said:

Bad advice -  Whitty was spot on

That's what we thought, bad advice supplied by test and trace, not the best response from Whitty bit probably didn't appreciate the reason why the question was asked. Must be loads of people who have tested positive for covid who won't be doing LFT tests because that was what they were told to do, but could be needlessly be spreading the virus round as they haven't done a test since because told not to. There are some quick wins there if they got the advice right and disseminated it down the chain

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33 minutes ago, fraybentos1 said:

It's a pcr test you can still test positive 90 ish days later, not lateral flow i think

Yes but we were told not to do a LFT test for 90 days, but that is the test we should be doing, more than PCR, as indicates our infectiousness more than a PCR test which indicates we have been infected, which we clearly already knew!

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13 minutes ago, dingbat2 said:

Yes but we were told not to do a LFT test for 90 days, but that is the test we should be doing, more than PCR, as indicates our infectiousness more than a PCR test which indicates we have been infected, which we clearly already knew!

At the moment you need to do a confirmatory PCR test if you get  a positive LFT test. So by implication, you don't have to do a LFT test after the 7/10 days I guess

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2 hours ago, efcfanwirral said:

I agree but the industry is fucked then unless they do away with isolation which obviously isn't an option. If the precedent is to not do gigs at times of high cases, that's at least the next 2-3 months off and who's stupid enough to book venues for December to March/April next year? And if people are still isolating come summer, and it's still so prevalent festival booking could be a nightmare


 

Why not? This is due to happen in the spring I believe. Already has in South Africa 

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3 minutes ago, Fuzzy Afro said:


 

Why not? This is due to happen in the spring I believe. Already has in South Africa 

Boris and co are still stuck in the political bollocks of having to be seen to be doing something to keep the bed wetters happy.  I expect them too slowly chip away and release the restrictions in the coming month.  People would shit the bed if they did it right now.
 

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As per zahidf’s post above:

Guess that’s the beginning of the end of the pandemic in the UK then, as this will probably soon be followed by a reduction in the availability of PCR tests, and then it’s a case of cracking on with it without obsessing over daily figures. 
Guess a lot of countries will be watching closely and following suit, but it’s certainly time we looked to move to this stage. 

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1 hour ago, Barry Fish said:

Telling a load of public sector workers with decent sick pay they can now self isolate for 7 days with no proof 🙂 .  I can't see a problem with that at all 😄 

What .. you mean like Kier Starmer? 

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13 hours ago, Fuzzy Afro said:


 

Why not? This is due to happen in the spring I believe. Already has in South Africa 

 

1 hour ago, st dan said:

As per zahidf’s post above:

Guess that’s the beginning of the end of the pandemic in the UK then, as this will probably soon be followed by a reduction in the availability of PCR tests, and then it’s a case of cracking on with it without obsessing over daily figures. 
Guess a lot of countries will be watching closely and following suit, but it’s certainly time we looked to move to this stage. 

Does this change essentially remove the legal need for isolation? Its like self reporting for the covid pass on steroids - morally right to do it properly but huge amounts won't, meaning essentially its a step towards living with covid without constant testing. Whether intentional or not you can never say with this lot 😂

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