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The use of the Oxford/AstraZeneca Covid-19 vaccine in vulnerable people may be resulting in a lower death toll in the UK compared to Europe, according to the former chief of the country’s vaccine taskforce.

Clive Dix said the durable cellular immunity response produced by the AZ jab can potentially “last for life”.

The Oxford/AstraZeneca jab was approved last December and vaccines were initially rolled out among the older and the most vulnerable in society.

Dix told The Daily Telegraph: “If you look across Europe, with the rise in cases, there’s also a corresponding lagged rise in deaths, but not in the UK, and we have to understand that.”

He added: “I personally believe that’s because most of our vulnerable people were given the AstraZeneca vaccine.”

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21 minutes ago, JoeyT said:

Murmurs that Boris will hold his nerve and at worst we’ll be given guidance rather than restrictions.

YLTSI.

 

If we get to February then it'll set a precedent for the future, but we know from last year (and every other year) that the NHS really struggles in January and all numbers will go up, including staff absences, so even if nothing comes in today I'd imagine we're no more than a week away from something in law. Hopefully nothing too bad but considering gigs and football are all I've got planned between now and March I feel i'll be disappointed! 

That said, NHS probably does need us all to be a bit cautious the next few weeks 

https://metro.co.uk/2021/12/24/nhs-is-grinding-to-a-halt-as-even-triple-jabbed-staff-catch-covid-15819993/ - this is interesting - doesn't sound like a lockdown would help that much. What would we be waiting for? More jabs?

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My prediction now is the government will hold off - the public support really isn’t there anymore. Even the most COVID conscious in my family have now had enough. They are getting older and know it, they don’t want to miss time with family and loved ones they can’t get back.

Boris and the vote leave government always follow the vote winning formula. What is a vote winner is probably what they think first.

Don’t Look Up did a great rendition of this if you’ve seen it. Government led by short term populism.

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2 hours ago, efcfanwirral said:

If we get to February then it'll set a precedent for the future, but we know from last year (and every other year) that the NHS really struggles in January and all numbers will go up, including staff absences, so even if nothing comes in today I'd imagine we're no more than a week away from something in law. Hopefully nothing too bad but considering gigs and football are all I've got planned between now and March I feel i'll be disappointed! 

That said, NHS probably does need us all to be a bit cautious the next few weeks 

https://metro.co.uk/2021/12/24/nhs-is-grinding-to-a-halt-as-even-triple-jabbed-staff-catch-covid-15819993/ - this is interesting - doesn't sound like a lockdown would help that much. What would we be waiting for? More jabs?

I posted it earlier but SAGE themselves it's too late for restrictions to effect things. For better or worse we've made our choice.

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Cases will be so high after this week that surely a lockdown at a later date is going to be a waste of time isn’t it?

If they were ever going to do it, then it needed to be before the whole country mixed with families etc over Christmas period, which they held back on (thankfully).  

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1 hour ago, st dan said:

Cases will be so high after this week that surely a lockdown at a later date is going to be a waste of time isn’t it?

If they were ever going to do it, then it needed to be before the whole country mixed with families etc over Christmas period, which they held back on (thankfully).  

Yup, said this last week. If the predictions about how infectious Omicron is are accurate then there really is very little point in January lockdown for the exact reasons you describe. 

The hospitalisations up to 15th January are already baked in.

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