zahidf Posted September 6, 2021 Report Share Posted September 6, 2021 1 hour ago, efcfanwirral said: Parliament being off has helped that, and it being summer. It'll all be ramping up now the kids are back in school and the winter is on the way. Adults had a school holiday this year to give us a break before the next phase, I don't see how anyone can look at winter and see any kind of normality with the NHS in the state its in? I give it a month or two of vaccine passports before they realise its still spreading too much and the NHS is in deep trouble Im feeling a bit more positive. i think enough is enough and there isnt any remianing justifications for ridiculous restrictions, so we are unlikely to back into them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zahidf Posted September 6, 2021 Report Share Posted September 6, 2021 (edited) Fake SAGE hilarious advice for mass events Basically ban alcohol and make not wearing a mask socially unacceptable so that you're pilloried from society Edited September 6, 2021 by zahidf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
efcfanwirral Posted September 6, 2021 Report Share Posted September 6, 2021 47 minutes ago, zahidf said: Fake SAGE hilarious advice for mass events Basically ban alcohol and make not wearing a mask socially unacceptable so that you're pilloried from society Hahaha I just came on to post pretty much everything you did, right down to that particular section which is just one of many highlights. Changing behaviours in that way will not happen. If it does, it'll make these things not worth going to. "Because they are good citizens". Fucking hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted September 6, 2021 Report Share Posted September 6, 2021 Coronavirus Act https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/sep/06/no-10-intent-on-keeping-covid-powers-amid-expected-rise-in-cases Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zahidf Posted September 6, 2021 Report Share Posted September 6, 2021 25 minutes ago, efcfanwirral said: Hahaha I just came on to post pretty much everything you did, right down to that particular section which is just one of many highlights. Changing behaviours in that way will not happen. If it does, it'll make these things not worth going to. "Because they are good citizens". Fucking hell. They come across as complete sociopaths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapple12345 Posted September 6, 2021 Report Share Posted September 6, 2021 Theyre genuinely on another planet at the moment, even the comments are generally ridiculing their plans. Like the previous comments have said many people have bigger worries than the pandemic and they won't be listened to, especially with these orwellian proposals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozanne Posted September 6, 2021 Report Share Posted September 6, 2021 Vaccination update: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BobWillis2 Posted September 6, 2021 Report Share Posted September 6, 2021 2 hours ago, zahidf said: Fake SAGE hilarious advice for mass events Basically ban alcohol and make not wearing a mask socially unacceptable so that you're pilloried from society “For the greater good” They have turned into a parody of themselves. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Fish Posted September 6, 2021 Report Share Posted September 6, 2021 wow, just fucking wow lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Fish Posted September 6, 2021 Report Share Posted September 6, 2021 My fave response - kind of sums it up.. Funny to think about how some of the posters here sided with the nutters at Indy Stage. I often lie awake at night wondering what became of @MrBarry465. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zahidf Posted September 6, 2021 Report Share Posted September 6, 2021 Some of the scientists trying to get us lo locked up again, even though there isn't a justification for ridiculous restrictions given the much lower hospitalisations rate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyT Posted September 6, 2021 Report Share Posted September 6, 2021 50 minutes ago, zahidf said: Some of the scientists trying to get us lo locked up again, even though there isn't a justification for ridiculous restrictions given the much lower hospitalisations rate Hahaha yeah good luck with another lockdown. Count me out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
efcfanwirral Posted September 6, 2021 Report Share Posted September 6, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, zahidf said: Some of the scientists trying to get us lo locked up again, even though there isn't a justification for ridiculous restrictions given the much lower hospitalisations rate 50 minutes ago, JoeyT said: Hahaha yeah good luck with another lockdown. Count me out. Those criteria in there had better not be true. If hospitalisations continue at this rate?? They're not exactly going to go down as we head into winter, and this is before any flu pressure and whatever else the NHS has to deal with. I don't understand why there is this focus on just covid as if we can stop it. It has to be part of the overall considerations of NHS capacity now, as we aren't getting rid of it. But if those are the criteria though, it doesn't sound promising for deeper into winter, when simple logic tells us the covid numbers will be higher due to regular respiratory season reasons, on top of bigger NHS pressure from other issues. Preparing to bring back social distancing this month? Sort of makes their passports a bit redundant as that cancels gatherings anyway Edited September 6, 2021 by efcfanwirral Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted September 6, 2021 Report Share Posted September 6, 2021 15 minutes ago, efcfanwirral said: Those criteria in there had better not be true. If hospitalisations continue at this rate?? They're not exactly going to go down as we head into winter, and this is before any flu pressure and whatever else the NHS has to deal with. I don't understand why there is this focus on just covid as if we can stop it. It has to be part of the overall considerations of NHS capacity now, as we aren't getting rid of it. But if those are the criteria though, it doesn't sound promising for deeper into winter, when simple logic tells us the covid numbers will be higher due to regular respiratory season reasons, on top of bigger NHS pressure from other issues. Preparing to bring back social distancing this month? Sort of makes their passports a bit redundant as that cancels gatherings anyway Hospitals are already pretty busy with backlog + covid + everything else, so could be a difficult winter (and beyond). NHS needs more cash, and govt has already said going to spend an extra £5.4 billion to help it through this winter...but going to need more beyond that too which I guess is part of the reason why they're going to start raising taxes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
efcfanwirral Posted September 6, 2021 Report Share Posted September 6, 2021 1 minute ago, steviewevie said: Hospitals are already pretty busy with backlog + covid + everything else, so could be a difficult winter (and beyond). NHS needs more cash, and govt has already said going to spend an extra £5.4 billion to help it through this winter...but going to need more beyond that too which I guess is part of the reason why they're going to start raising taxes. Frankly I've got no complaints at paying a freedom tax to continue living life for more than a few months a year. Not everyone is able to though I get that. Maybe have a threshold? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted September 6, 2021 Report Share Posted September 6, 2021 4 minutes ago, efcfanwirral said: Frankly I've got no complaints at paying a freedom tax to continue living life for more than a few months a year. Not everyone is able to though I get that. Maybe have a threshold? it's going to be NI...so anyone working pays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
efcfanwirral Posted September 6, 2021 Report Share Posted September 6, 2021 17 minutes ago, steviewevie said: it's going to be NI...so anyone working pays. None of it will make a difference this winter though. Its definitely not sounding good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zahidf Posted September 6, 2021 Report Share Posted September 6, 2021 1 hour ago, efcfanwirral said: Those criteria in there had better not be true. If hospitalisations continue at this rate?? They're not exactly going to go down as we head into winter, and this is before any flu pressure and whatever else the NHS has to deal with. I don't understand why there is this focus on just covid as if we can stop it. It has to be part of the overall considerations of NHS capacity now, as we aren't getting rid of it. But if those are the criteria though, it doesn't sound promising for deeper into winter, when simple logic tells us the covid numbers will be higher due to regular respiratory season reasons, on top of bigger NHS pressure from other issues. Preparing to bring back social distancing this month? Sort of makes their passports a bit redundant as that cancels gatherings anyway I reckon it's someone from SAGE leaking to the press to bounce the govt into stuff. It's a contingency plan in case things gets bad is all Absolutely no justifications for those restrictions as it stands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo Music Girl Posted September 7, 2021 Report Share Posted September 7, 2021 (edited) Actually deleting this as don't have the energy for this thread any more! Enjoy. Edited September 7, 2021 by Zoo Music Girl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Fish Posted September 7, 2021 Report Share Posted September 7, 2021 5 hours ago, JoeyT said: Hahaha yeah good luck with another lockdown. Count me out. Yeah - obviously I cant go to a closed pub but the idea I dont see family and friends is again is for the birds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Fish Posted September 7, 2021 Report Share Posted September 7, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Zoo Music Girl said: That article only says they are thinking about extending half term by a week doesn't it? Not ideal obviously but nothing about shutting down other businesses or locking down. *only* More weeks of lost education... If they did a firebreak it would go beyond schools closing surely. Simply closing schools a bit longer wouldn't but a dent in 100,000 cases a day. Edited September 7, 2021 by Barry Fish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyT Posted September 7, 2021 Report Share Posted September 7, 2021 6 hours ago, Barry Fish said: *only* More weeks of lost education... If they did a firebreak it would go beyond schools closing surely. Simply closing schools a bit longer wouldn't but a dent in 100,000 cases a day. Fire breaks just kick the can down the road. Wasn’t it shown to be utterly pointless in Wales when they had one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzzy Afro Posted September 7, 2021 Report Share Posted September 7, 2021 If SAGE think I’m observing another lockdown they can get in the bin with their fake SAGE buddies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zahidf Posted September 7, 2021 Report Share Posted September 7, 2021 6 minutes ago, JoeyT said: Fire breaks just kick the can down the road. Wasn’t it shown to be utterly pointless in Wales when they had one? I don't even now what the point of one would be now. Everyone who wants a double jabbed should have one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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