Barry Fish Posted February 2 Report Share Posted February 2 30 minutes ago, JoeyT said: This is what the telegraph was reporting which I shared - sadly pay walled unless you simply turn off your cookies. Its very good news! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Fish Posted February 2 Report Share Posted February 2 27 minutes ago, zahidf said: Anyway, inews reports that the daily figures will be scrapped from April (though available to the Govt still) https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/government-daily-uk-covid-figures-stats-axed-easter-whitehall-1436139 Absolutely needs to happened and hopefully sooner than April 🙂 People simply can't rationalise that things aren't 2020 anymore with daily death figures and cases without context. They where good tools to stoke the fear and drive behaviour but now they are a blunt unnecessary instrument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
efcfanwirral Posted February 2 Report Share Posted February 2 24 minutes ago, Barry Fish said: Absolutely needs to happened and hopefully sooner than April 🙂 People simply can't rationalise that things aren't 2020 anymore with daily death figures and cases without context. They where good tools to stoke the fear and drive behaviour but now they are a blunt unnecessary instrument. I think the arguments against stopping the data that the article put forward at the top are refuted further down, saying the ONS figures will continue anyway, so there's no lack of transparency nor a danger of people not knowing about new variants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Fish Posted February 2 Report Share Posted February 2 1 minute ago, efcfanwirral said: I think the arguments against stopping the data that the article put forward at the top are refuted further down, saying the ONS figures will continue anyway, so there's no lack of transparency nor a danger of people not knowing about new variants Yeah we will still have the weekly data etc. Just not the daily drum beat that the news latches onto.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eFestivals Posted February 2 Report Share Posted February 2 22 hours ago, zero000 said: Hold your horses it’s a long way off looking at the article. „TOKYO, Jan 31 (Reuters) - Japanese trading and pharmaceuticals company Kowa Co Ltd (7807.T)on Monday said that anti-parasite drug ivermectin showed an "antiviral effect" against Omicron and other coronavirus variants in joint non-clinical research. The company, which has been working with Tokyo's Kitasato University on testing the drug as a potential treatment for COVID-19, did not provide further details. The original Reuters story misstated that ivermectin was "effective" against Omicron in Phase III clinical trials, which are conducted in humans.” wont need drugs soon, there'll be a universal vaccine that'll work against future variants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Fish Posted February 2 Report Share Posted February 2 24 minutes ago, eFestivals said: wont need drugs soon, there'll be a universal vaccine that'll work against future variants. We will still need drugs. We will still see breakthrough infections and sadly people passing away. But you are right that future vaccines should offer far greater protection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeanoL Posted February 2 Report Share Posted February 2 18 hours ago, assorted said: It’s an ironic bit of shade to throw considering the forum creator/owner literally posted 2 above this comment. It's not shade, pretty sure a few of the regulars left in here have said before they don't have tickets for this year and have no intention of trying to get them. And if I'm wrong I'm pretty sure they'd have told me so by now. It's a free internet argument point! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Fish Posted February 2 Report Share Posted February 2 11 minutes ago, DeanoL said: It's not shade, pretty sure a few of the regulars left in here have said before they don't have tickets for this year and have no intention of trying to get them. And if I'm wrong I'm pretty sure they'd have told me so by now. It's a free internet argument point! Ultimately does it matter ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Fish Posted February 2 Report Share Posted February 2 Lockdowns, school closures and limiting gatherings only reduced COVID mortality by 0.2% at 'enormous economic and social costs study finds Meta-analysis of 24 studies found Covid lockdown restrictions caused just 0.2% reduction in virus deaths Economists who carried out review said border closures had virtually zero effect on Covid mortality (-0.1%) However, researchers found closing nonessential shops was most effective intervention, causing 10.6% fallhttps://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10466995/New-study-says-lockdowns-reduced-COVID-mortality-2-percent.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lost Posted February 2 Report Share Posted February 2 11 minutes ago, Barry Fish said: Ultimately does it matter ? I think the argument was if you goto Glastonbury your morally superior in some way. But as has already been pointed out its the middle classes who goto Glastonbury and its the middle classes whom most benefited from lockdowns. They have the work from home type jobs which suffered no loss of income plus the majority actually profited from having no commuting or child care costs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Fish Posted February 2 Report Share Posted February 2 (edited) 10 minutes ago, lost said: I think the argument was if you goto Glastonbury your morally superior in some way. But as has already been pointed out its the middle classes who goto Glastonbury and its the middle classes whom most benefited from lockdowns. They have the work from home type jobs which suffered no loss of income plus the majority actually profited from having no commuting or child care costs. I think there is mass delusion sometimes about the types of people who go to Glastonbury these days. You are just as likely (if not more) to bump into a tory voting brexiter as you are a leftie jew hating terrorist supporter. I think any sort of moral authority coming out of attendance is beyond laughable. Its a fucking haven for drug taking, debauchery and theft 😄 All the good things in life 😄 Edited February 2 by Barry Fish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Fish Posted February 2 Report Share Posted February 2 Just to be clear - I would MORE than happily attend the festival if it wasn't for the kids. Sadly the festival is held during term time. Thoughtless bastards 😛 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lost Posted February 2 Report Share Posted February 2 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Barry Fish said: a leftie jew hating terrorist supporter. Yep its exactly the same attitude that lead to the labour party being a whisker away from being added to the same list of banned political groups as the British union of fascists. Right wing people are racist, Left wing people can't be racist therefore we can't have an issue with antisemitism in the party. To this day Starmer is still being blamed for holding a grudge rather than the fact he is simply following a legal ruling for the party to be able to continue, Edited February 2 by lost 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobWillis2 Posted February 2 Report Share Posted February 2 1 hour ago, Barry Fish said: Lockdowns, school closures and limiting gatherings only reduced COVID mortality by 0.2% at 'enormous economic and social costs study finds Meta-analysis of 24 studies found Covid lockdown restrictions caused just 0.2% reduction in virus deaths Economists who carried out review said border closures had virtually zero effect on Covid mortality (-0.1%) However, researchers found closing nonessential shops was most effective intervention, causing 10.6% fallhttps://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10466995/New-study-says-lockdowns-reduced-COVID-mortality-2-percent.html Shock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobWillis2 Posted February 2 Report Share Posted February 2 1 hour ago, DeanoL said: It's not shade, pretty sure a few of the regulars left in here have said before they don't have tickets for this year and have no intention of trying to get them. And if I'm wrong I'm pretty sure they'd have told me so by now. It's a free internet argument point! Is it a rule that only those with tickets to the latest festival are allowed to be on here? Perhaps you should warn those in the resale thread that they need to try a little bit harder because if they’re unsuccessful they need to bugger off until October. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeanoL Posted February 3 Report Share Posted February 3 20 hours ago, BobWillis2 said: Is it a rule that only those with tickets to the latest festival are allowed to be on here? Perhaps you should warn those in the resale thread that they need to try a little bit harder because if they’re unsuccessful they need to bugger off until October. No - someone just said that people in here weren't being nice and that they're clearly only nice during the festival, to which I pointed out most people left in this thread aren't going to the festival. Do you need help in the resale? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Fish Posted February 3 Report Share Posted February 3 (edited) Deepti finally posts something I agree with but for different reasons What the hell is going on in this area ? If you go abroad at the moment to places like NY or San Fran then you are going to have big problems doing anything until we resolve this. I wish they would make their minds up soon so I can decide if to get them jabbed in LA in a few weeks and then Orlando in a few months instead. Edited February 3 by Barry Fish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lost Posted February 3 Report Share Posted February 3 (edited) I'm well over 28 days for my positive covid test and I'm not getting spammed to book my booster which has happened previously. Alot of the vaccine centres seem to be finally shutting up shop. I think the governments finally run out of money to chuck at covid and its suddenly realising it needs to focus on the bigger issues in the economy caused by their covid policies. I think I said this would happen a few months ago to shift public attention. People will now start claiming they never said things like "you can rebuild an economy you can't bring people back to life" Rebuilding that economy is going to be alot more painful than many were expecting. Maybe we should start recording deaths within 28 days of receiving a gas bill? Edited February 3 by lost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Fish Posted February 3 Report Share Posted February 3 1 minute ago, lost said: I'm well over 28 days for my positive covid test and I'm not getting spammed to book my booster which has happened previously. Alot of the vaccine centres seem to be finally shutting up shop. I think the governments finally run out of money to chuck at covid and its suddenly realising it needs to focus on the bigger issues in the economy caused by their covid policies. I think I said this would happen a few months ago to shift public attention. People will now start claiming they never said things like "you can rebuild an economy you can't bring people back to life" Rebuilding that economy is going to be alot more painful than many were expecting. Maybe we start recording deaths within 28 days of receiving a gas bill? Just look at the politics thread. Some of the biggest voices supporting restrictions and lockdowns are now crying over the cost of living crisis. While its mainly fuelled by global gas prices our ability to respond is massively restricted by the required tax rises required to cover the damage from Covid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lost Posted February 3 Report Share Posted February 3 2 minutes ago, Barry Fish said: While its mainly fuelled by global gas prices our ability to respond is massively restricted by the required tax rises required to cover the damage from Covid. The pound is up a little against the dollar off the back of todays interest rate rise which should help energy prices a tiny bit. Saying that the BOE is so far behind the inflation curve its not funny and as during lockdown everyone was taking out massive loans for properties with home offices and big gardens I'm not sure how high they can go without killing the property market and then the general economy as it feeds through to consumption. They've created a massive shit sandwich and I don't think we can do anything else but sit down and eat it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Fish Posted February 3 Report Share Posted February 3 2 minutes ago, lost said: The pound is up a little against the dollar off the back of todays interest rate rise which should help energy prices a tiny bit. Saying that the BOE is so far behind the inflation curve its not funny and as during lockdown everyone was taking out massive loans for properties with home offices and big gardens I'm not sure how high they can go without killing the property market and then the general economy as it feeds through to consumption. They've created a massive shit sandwich and I don't think we can do anything else but sit down and eat it. I think you are right. The chickens are coming home to roost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Fish Posted February 3 Report Share Posted February 3 Can't quite believe I am reading this but the crazy Scottish lady is suggesting spending £300,000 chopping off the bottom of doors in school. Anyone with half a brain could of told her that would violate fire regulations 🙂 https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2022/02/03/bonkers-plan-chop-classroom-doors-may-not-fire-safe-admits-sturgeon/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcshed Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 16 hours ago, Barry Fish said: Can't quite believe I am reading this but the crazy Scottish lady is suggesting spending £300,000 chopping off the bottom of doors in school. Anyone with half a brain could of told her that would violate fire regulations 🙂 https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2022/02/03/bonkers-plan-chop-classroom-doors-may-not-fire-safe-admits-sturgeon/ Not only is it against fire regulations, if you really want a door to be a wee bit open then just give them a door stop not cut the bottom off the door, it's absolutely insane. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary1979666 Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 3 minutes ago, mcshed said: Not only is it against fire regulations, if you really want a door to be a wee bit open then just give them a door stop not cut the bottom off the door, it's absolutely insane. But if they do it to, say 20% of doors, then the bits that are cut off can be fashioned into door stops for the remaining 80%! Long live Queen Nicola!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcshed Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 12 minutes ago, gary1979666 said: But if they do it to, say 20% of doors, then the bits that are cut off can be fashioned into door stops for the remaining 80%! Long live Queen Nicola!! She's actually gone mad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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