efcfanwirral Posted January 26 Report Share Posted January 26 (edited) So it turns out deaths with covid on the certificate is also shown on the dashboard, so is unlinked to testing status and that looks on a generally OK trajectory. https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/deaths Didn't even know they reported that one - thats surely the most accurate of the measures? And maybe that should be the one used on front pages.... Cases will look silly, and there's a bit of an unknown about hospitalisations and ICU numbers, though it could explain the drop in ventilation with covid numbers recently. That's probably the only thing that could derail it - if a lot of reinfected are in ICU Edited January 26 by efcfanwirral Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lost Posted January 26 Report Share Posted January 26 11 minutes ago, fraybentos1 said: Tbh I really don’t understand covid at all. My gf had it in December and I didn’t get it despite the fact we share a one bed flat. In contrast one of my pals got delta in December and then after a new year house party caught omicron in early January which is mental imo. I was watching a guy on youtube called Dr Zubin Damania who has a debunking channel and he said alot has to do with the state of your immune system at the time. Its basically a combination of your anti-bodies and the strength of your immune system that will decide if the virus can take hold. I caught it on an all day drinking session . He mentioned alot of the "young healthy" people who get it bad are probably not that healthy based on what vitamins and minerals they are getting in their diet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fraybentos1 Posted January 26 Report Share Posted January 26 4 minutes ago, lost said: I was watching a guy on youtube called Dr Zubin Damania who has a debunking channel and he said alot has to do with the state of your immune system at the time. Its basically a combination of your anti-bodies and the strength of your immune system that will decide if the virus can take hold. I caught it on an all day drinking session . He mentioned alot of the "young healthy" people who get it bad are probably not that healthy based on what vitamins and minerals they are getting in their diet. I also saw something about recovery from the common cold can help too. I had a shocking cold a couple months ago so maybe recovering from that helped. Fuck knows. Also it makes sense about the drinking thing, I’m defo more susceptible to stuff just after drinking a lot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Fish Posted January 26 Report Share Posted January 26 (edited) 11 minutes ago, lost said: I was watching a guy on youtube called Dr Zubin Damania who has a debunking channel and he said alot has to do with the state of your immune system at the time. Its basically a combination of your anti-bodies and the strength of your immune system that will decide if the virus can take hold. I caught it on an all day drinking session . He mentioned alot of the "young healthy" people who get it bad are probably not that healthy based on what vitamins and minerals they are getting in their diet. My wife has been unwell for weeks but has been testing negative - we was thinking that maybe the illness opened her up a bit more to catching the virus more recently having otherwise avoided it up tonight and teaching in a covid soup daily for the last two years 🙂 Edited January 26 by Barry Fish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted January 26 Report Share Posted January 26 a mate has just been in touch to say he has covid, tested clear for two days and is now testing positive again, poor sod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
efcfanwirral Posted January 26 Report Share Posted January 26 (edited) 42 minutes ago, fraybentos1 said: I also saw something about recovery from the common cold can help too. I had a shocking cold a couple months ago so maybe recovering from that helped. Fuck knows. Also it makes sense about the drinking thing, I’m defo more susceptible to stuff just after drinking a lot Ha yeah I'm the same - little sore throats and colds after big days out/festivals etc In the past that was normal now it's "you've got to test!" Edited January 26 by efcfanwirral Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Fish Posted January 26 Report Share Posted January 26 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-60137428 Just like last time lots of companies continuing to "ask" customers to wear masks while pretty much all their staff don't bother and likewise the wider public don't both. But it looks good I suppose 😛 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fraybentos1 Posted January 26 Report Share Posted January 26 Imagine so shamelessly exploiting the pandemic to gain more Twitter followers to sell more masks. She makes me sick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Fish Posted January 26 Report Share Posted January 26 (edited) 54 minutes ago, fraybentos1 said: Imagine so shamelessly exploiting the pandemic to gain more Twitter followers to sell more masks. She makes me sick. Could you imagine having the skills of a doctor during a pandemic but instead of using your medical skills instead you get involved in politics and making money out of the pandemic flogging masks... Shameful Edited January 26 by Barry Fish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt42 Posted January 27 Report Share Posted January 27 17 hours ago, Barry Fish said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-60137428 Just like last time lots of companies continuing to "ask" customers to wear masks while pretty much all their staff don't bother and likewise the wider public don't both. But it looks good I suppose 😛 I’m sick of being asked to wear a mask and shops and on TFL when the staff often don’t wear them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Fish Posted January 27 Report Share Posted January 27 14 minutes ago, Matt42 said: I’m sick of being asked to wear a mask and shops and on TFL when the staff often don’t wear them! It's just like the last freedom day lol its frankly ridiculous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt42 Posted January 27 Report Share Posted January 27 Just now, Barry Fish said: It's just like the last freedom day lol its frankly ridiculous I don’t quite understand what TFL and Tesco are doing though? Is it purely to stroke their egos or add stamps to their morally virtuous scorecard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzzy Afro Posted January 27 Report Share Posted January 27 Happy freedom day 2.0. May your face nappies be binned and your vaccine passports be unused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcshed Posted January 27 Report Share Posted January 27 25 minutes ago, Matt42 said: I don’t quite understand what TFL and Tesco are doing though? Is it purely to stroke their egos or add stamps to their morally virtuous scorecard? I'm guessing it's seen as the we easiest way to annoy the least amount of people, once masks aren't mandatory the "burn your face nappies" types aren't going to wear them but your more nervous types want them, a non compulsory mask request allows you to appease them without actually doing anything to the no masks ultras. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Fish Posted January 27 Report Share Posted January 27 1 hour ago, Matt42 said: I don’t quite understand what TFL and Tesco are doing though? Is it purely to stroke their egos or add stamps to their morally virtuous scorecard? I think mostly the last one. I went asda this morning and lots of customers still wearing (older weekday crowd types - be a few weeks before they give in) and no staff wearing one lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Fish Posted January 27 Report Share Posted January 27 1 hour ago, Fuzzy Afro said: Happy freedom day 2.0. May your face nappies be binned and your vaccine passports be unused. I went mask free and it fellt good 😀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st dan Posted January 27 Report Share Posted January 27 1 hour ago, Barry Fish said: I went mask free and it fellt good 😀 And some people will continue to wear a mask if it makes them feel more safe (even if the evidence isn’t necessarily there) - and they will also feel good too, for different reasons. Each to their own has to be the only way we can approach all of this. I won’t be wearing a mask anymore, but I certainly won’t ridicule those that chose to. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Fish Posted January 27 Report Share Posted January 27 32 minutes ago, st dan said: And some people will continue to wear a mask if it makes them feel more safe (even if the evidence isn’t necessarily there) - and they will also feel good too, for different reasons. Each to their own has to be the only way we can approach all of this. I won’t be wearing a mask anymore, but I certainly won’t ridicule those that chose to. Personal responsibility and personal freedom for the win... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Fish Posted January 27 Report Share Posted January 27 (edited) Someone on another forum posted they went to Sainsbury this morning and the jumped up security guard said she HAS to wear a mask and it all got a bit heated lol. I think some of these shops need to be a bit more upfront on what they want. If you say on your website you are "asking" that is far cry from mandating. Messaging is important. Quite happy to go shop at Asda instead 🙂 My pounds will not be spent in shops who want to remove personal choice from their customers. Edited January 27 by Barry Fish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Fish Posted January 28 Report Share Posted January 28 (edited) Just got another "warn and inform" letter from my kids primary... Seems to be slowly working its way through my kids class since December. School hardly had a case in the previous waves. Just make me think though when I get the letter - whats the point in even telling me ? Nothing we can do about it. Very little point the impacted kid staying off either unless they are too ill to learn (they rarely are with the kids). Roll on March and hopefully we stop this pointless exercise. Edited January 28 by Barry Fish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary1979666 Posted January 28 Report Share Posted January 28 2 hours ago, Barry Fish said: Just got another "warn and inform" letter from my kids primary... Seems to be slowly working its way through my kids class since December. School hardly had a case in the previous waves. Just make me think though when I get the letter - whats the point in even telling me ? Nothing we can do about it. Very little point the impacted kid staying off either unless they are too ill to learn (they rarely are with the kids). Roll on March and hopefully we stop this pointless exercise. Same here. We're told too LFT my 8 yr oldson every day now. I do it periodically, but not every day - he hates them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Fish Posted January 28 Report Share Posted January 28 (edited) 9 minutes ago, gary1979666 said: Same here. We're told too LFT my 8 yr oldson every day now. I do it periodically, but not every day - he hates them. Been told the same despite them saying they where not suitable for under 11s back in the day... We give her the option. We never force her unless it mandatory (return to school / travel) She used to hate them and refuse to do them so had to force her in the past - which is upsetting. She has recently just realised its a ticket to 10 days off school and all of a sudden she doesn't hate them as much now lol. Which helps me with getting her to take one for our up coming holiday lol. Although again - the prospect of Disneyland is removing her objections lol. Edited January 28 by Barry Fish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Fish Posted January 30 Report Share Posted January 30 Cases have started to drop again - day on day... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Fish Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-60193410 Well never saw that coming 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 26 minutes ago, Barry Fish said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-60193410 Well never saw that coming 🙂 yeah, been obvious that they'd u turn. reckoned theyd lose 40,000 staff, too many when they're short staffed already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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