Barry Fish Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 (edited) BOOM on cases Shame to see the deaths now showing an increase (lagging from the wave) but should fall soon Edited January 12 by Barry Fish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigger123 Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 2 hours ago, Barry Fish said: BOOM on cases Shame to see the deaths now showing an increase (lagging from the wave) but should fall soon This thread explains why deaths from Omicron may seem higher than they actually are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Fish Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 2 hours ago, tigger123 said: This thread explains why deaths from Omicron may seem higher than they actually are Yes that make sense... It seems the only useful metrics now are the hospital numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dingbat2 Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 9 hours ago, Barry Fish said: Yes that make sense... It seems the only useful metrics now are the hospital numbers. Yes they shouldn't really keep reporting death numbers and linking them to covid statistics any more, it just causes worry when people see that deaths graph without context. We should only be reporting ONS deaths data now, appreciating it wont be up to date, but will be more accurate Very simplistically, if the UK population is 70 million and average life expectancy is 80, then on average 67,000 will die every 28 days of something, or you have a 0.1% chance of dying every month, ignoring seasonality, etc. So when cases are 150,000 per day then you would expect 150 (0.1%) of those cases to die in the next 28 days in a normal year. And even more than that this time of year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyT Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 JVT over & out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Fish Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 3 minutes ago, JoeyT said: JVT over & out I wonder if he is making a return to acting ? Good luck to him - one of the more sensible people involved in this entire shit show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Fish Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 https://news.sky.com/story/france-eases-covid-travel-restrictions-for-people-arriving-from-uk-12514769 France reopens to the Brits... We should surely add them to the Red list given their shocking approach to the pandemic and huge covid rates 😛 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fraybentos1 Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 I really liked JVT. Hopefully there won’t be much need to see much more of whitty etc if things die down. They all seem like good guys to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Fish Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 2 minutes ago, fraybentos1 said: I really liked JVT. Hopefully there won’t be much need to see much more of whitty etc if things die down. They all seem like good guys to me I think Valance has questions to answers in regards to what happened early in the pandemic. And this thing that broke yesterday which seems to be some sort of organised cover up in regards to China labs. He was mentioned in the reporting. Public enquiry should be interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzzy Afro Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 Isolation going to 5 days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
efcfanwirral Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 Just now, Fuzzy Afro said: Isolation going to 5 days All little steps towards normality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Fish Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 (edited) 18 minutes ago, efcfanwirral said: All little steps towards normality It is... We are slowly being weaned off all this shit... When you consider the numbers vaccinated, boosted AND previously infected and reinfected. You are going to start seeing people testing less now and just getting on with things. I think Boris needs a good distraction right now and needs people talking about other things. Making moves to stop releasing daily covid stats, removal of plan B etc should hopefully all help with that. I think thats now cemented. Hopefully does this next week rather than the week after. I don't really care about parties at Downstreet as much as I care about Covid restrictions being put in the bin. Boris removes the restrictions and I will forget about his little party. Edited January 13 by Barry Fish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Barry Fish Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 (edited) 1 hour ago, JoeyT said: Think we said this yesterday but I don't know anyone who after testing positive on day 0? 1? (I am lost lol) ... had a negative result by day 4. Tell you what will happen - the public are just going to say fuck it all going forward and just set there head to 5 days or not bother at all.... and probably rightly so now. Edited January 13 by Barry Fish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
efcfanwirral Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 2 hours ago, Barry Fish said: It is... We are slowly being weaned off all this shit... When you consider the numbers vaccinated, boosted AND previously infected and reinfected. You are going to start seeing people testing less now and just getting on with things. I think Boris needs a good distraction right now and needs people talking about other things. Making moves to stop releasing daily covid stats, removal of plan B etc should hopefully all help with that. I think thats now cemented. Hopefully does this next week rather than the week after. I don't really care about parties at Downstreet as much as I care about Covid restrictions being put in the bin. Boris removes the restrictions and I will forget about his little party. Pretty much where I am. What part of me cared about traditional politics disappeared during lockdowns. Guess that means the part of me that cares about others has gone too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeanoL Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 I really don't trust this government enough to be comfortable with them stopping publishing figures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Barry Fish Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 (edited) 48 minutes ago, efcfanwirral said: Pretty much where I am. What part of me cared about traditional politics disappeared during lockdowns. Guess that means the part of me that cares about others has gone too... My political views have really shifted during the pandemic... Pre-Pandemic - Labour through and through... Always voted Labour except for one local election. Post-Pandemic - Civil liberty means a lot more too me now and will drive a lot of my future voting. I have seen a side to Labour I was naive too. I wouldn't say I care less. I think I am just a little more grown up to wise on the things which are in and out of control. Edited January 13 by Barry Fish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blutarsky Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 15 minutes ago, steviewevie said: They've got hold of your medical records @Hugh Jass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Fish Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 31 minutes ago, DeanoL said: I really don't trust this government enough to be comfortable with them stopping publishing figures. The data will always be there... Does it need publishing daily ? I don't think so... That was only ever done to help scare people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zahidf Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 34 minutes ago, DeanoL said: I really don't trust this government enough to be comfortable with them stopping publishing figures. As long as its still on the dashboard like with all respiratory disease, then thatll be fine for transparency. I dont think we need it publicised or pushed for the papers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pink_triangle Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 40 minutes ago, steviewevie said: Can I check if there is a variant that has the opposite effect, just asking for a friend! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balthazarstarbuck Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 41 minutes ago, steviewevie said: Reminds me of the side effects of Covid that were self reported. There were a fair few Herpes and Gonnorheas in there. Some dangerous variants out there. Stay safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Fish Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 8 minutes ago, balthazarstarbuck said: Reminds me of the side effects of Covid that were self reported. There were a fair few Herpes and Gonnorheas in there. Some dangerous variants out there. Stay safe. Stay safe stay large ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balthazarstarbuck Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 9 minutes ago, pink_triangle said: Can I check if there is a variant that has the opposite effect, just asking for a friend! Scenes when the antivaxxers were right all along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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