When will covid end ? Please be nice and respectful to others

[jannybruck]

2 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

maybe something to do with various high up bods in NHS calling for restrictions?

Yes, but as we've seen over the past 18 months media outlets can find any fucker from public health to give a "I think we need more restrictions/this winter could be bad/this summer could be bad" quote at any time, even when we've been doing well. There's been a very deliberate re-focusing on it over the past couple of weeks and it's made people anxious again who probably would've been totally fine and blasé about it if there'd have been no stories about it.

[steviewevie]

1 minute ago, jannybruck said:

Yes, but as we've seen over the past 18 months media outlets can find any fucker from public health to give a "I think we need more restrictions/this winter could be bad/this summer could be bad" quote at any time, even when we've been doing well. There's been a very deliberate re-focusing on it over the past couple of weeks and it's made people anxious again who probably would've been totally fine and blasé about it if there'd have been no stories about it.

well, I don't know...it was kind of a serious health crisis, and if health experts are worried then maybe we should know.

[steviewevie]

Romania another country in trouble because of low vaccination rollout.

[lost]

11 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

Romania another country in trouble because of low vaccination rollout.

Probably climate too. Seems to be rolling southwards.. Russia , Latvia , Romania, Poland as the weather turns. Respiratory viruses seem to love those low 1 to 9 degree Celsius temperatures.

Edited October 21, 2021 by lost

[steviewevie]

https://www.change.org/p/government-the-government-to-implement-plan-b-of-its-winter-covid-plan-with-immediate-effect

[Fuzzy Afro]

1 minute ago, steviewevie said:

https://www.change.org/p/government-the-government-to-implement-plan-b-of-its-winter-covid-plan-with-immediate-effect

Fuck off 

[Fuzzy Afro]

It amazes me how many people enjoy the idea of the public being forced to treat their trip to tesco as if they are visiting the site of the Chernobyl disaster. Get face nappy mandates fired in the bin. 

[efcfanwirral]

I assume plan B sometime in the next week then - they're getting so much pressure it's hard to imagine them just standing firm 

[JoeyT]

1 hour ago, steviewevie said:

https://www.change.org/p/government-the-government-to-implement-plan-b-of-its-winter-covid-plan-with-immediate-effect

To be fair there’s nothing stopping these helmets from wearing a mask at the moment so why force it on the rest of us?!

[Fuzzy Afro]

1 minute ago, JoeyT said:

To be fair there’s nothing stopping these helmets from wearing a mask at the moment so why force it on the rest of us?!

These morons won’t stopped until we are all forced to stay in individual bedrooms in solitary confinement all day with the army delivering essential supplies to everyone.

 

 

And no doubt we’ll be forced to wear a mask and hazmat suit to avoid breathing out the virus through the window. 
 

 

c**ts. 

[steviewevie]

Hope you've all signed the petition.

[Fuzzy Afro]

3 minutes ago, Barry Fish said:

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/oct/21/england-gps-threaten-industrial-action-over-in-person-appointments?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

 

In other news - fire service will now also be remote only appointments 

 

What an absolute disgrace.

 

Anyone who can afford it should join BUPA as soon as possible.

[DeanoL]

1 hour ago, Barry Fish said:

What shit are you talking now ?   No one is being left at home...

They were in March and December. Whether it's happening yet this time I don't know. But in the earlier waves ambulances absolutely were triaging patients at home. 

[zahidf]

1 hour ago, efcfanwirral said:

I assume plan B sometime in the next week then - they're getting so much pressure it's hard to imagine them just standing firm 

From who? Just a few nerds and Twitter morons. I imagine cases start going down soon and they'll crack on. 

[fraybentos1]

Nicely sums Up why we don’t need restrictions. Hospitalisations less than even optimistic forecasts

Edited October 21, 2021 by fraybentos1

[zero000]

25 minutes ago, Barry Fish said:

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/oct/21/england-gps-threaten-industrial-action-over-in-person-appointments?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

 

In other news - fire service will now also be remote only appointments 

Nothing wrong with that it’s a monumentally dim plan from the government trying to finger point, whilst  the reality is they’ve failed to train enough doctors. 
 

It’s completely illogical that GPs should be mandated to see every person with a cold in person. 

[zero000]

6 minutes ago, Barry Fish said:

I wonder if its the poor or the rich who will suffer most from this new utopia.

The tories could never of dreamed of reducing services to this levels alone and getting public backing for it.

None of what I said let’s the government off the hook. It’s their mess. 
 

Telephone appointments are a complete red herring and a deliberate distraction from the real issue. Underfunding. 

[Leyrulion]

2 hours ago, zero000 said:

Nothing wrong with that it’s a monumentally dim plan from the government trying to finger point, whilst  the reality is they’ve failed to train enough doctors. 
 

It’s completely illogical that GPs should be mandated to see every person with a cold in person. 

I personally have always had GP surgeries that do telephone triage and actually prefer it because I've always been able to at least speak to a doctor that day. They can check I'm not imminently dying and schedule an appointment in the next 1-5 days. 

My only other experience without that system and I was offered an appointment 3 weeks away after ringing up for 2 days. 

 

[efcfanwirral]

4 hours ago, Fuzzy Afro said:

 

Anyone who can afford it should join BUPA as soon as possible.

We're doing that - based on the story I mentioned earlier. Might make it temporary for the winter and spring, but for the next few months we'd prefer to have the option, even if its not needed. 

[Fuzzy Afro]

32 minutes ago, efcfanwirral said:

We're doing that - based on the story I mentioned earlier. Might make it temporary for the winter and spring, but for the next few months we'd prefer to have the option, even if its not needed. 

 

I won't win many fans for saying this, but the NHS has become something it was never really intended to be, and the levels of service it aims to provide are completely unsustainable.

 

I do think it should be normalised for most working adults to have private medical insurance through BUPA, Vitality or one of the many other providers. Such organisations can provide round the clock GP appointments, fast referrals to see specialists, a choice of which specialist to see, and in many cases they offer practical health advice to reduce their care costs (e.g. Vitality will reward those who attend a gym with free cinema tickets and weekly coffees)

 

The NHS was never created so that every mum and dad in the country could take little Johnny to the doctor every time he sneezes and having near-total reliance on it is never going to work with the tax levels in the UK. You'd have to hike up tax massively to properly fund the system.

 

IMO the NHS should provide emergency hospital care, and then a basic service of other treatments for those who genuinely can't afford to pay like £70 a month for private medical insurance, or those who insurers won't touch due to previous health problems. I'm not arguing against the existence of the NHS by any means (US healthcare is horrific), but it's completely unsustainable to expect an all signing all dancing public healthcare system in a country of relatively low taxes. 

[mcshed]

5 hours ago, Fuzzy Afro said:

it's completely unsustainable to expect an all signing all dancing public healthcare system in a country of relatively low taxes. 

I'm not really sure what for profit private companies add to the equation, you're saying everyone should pay £70 a month for private care unless they can't afford it, why not simply ask everyone to pay that same £70 a month more in tax?

[BobWillis2]

7 hours ago, Fuzzy Afro said:

lYou'd have to hike up tax massively to properly fund the system.

What a load of bollocks. 
 

The 6th biggest economy in the world can’t afford to run a fit for purpose healthcare system for all without taxing the arse off the public? Of course we can, they choose not to. 

 

 

[Matt42]

My office has already said that if things get worse they will shut for the winter and everyone will be at home.

How disappointing.

[JoeyT]

15 minutes ago, Matt42 said:

My office has already said that if things get worse they will shut for the winter and everyone will be at home.

How disappointing.

It's mad how shit their pants scared some people get.

Less than 50% of our workforce applied for hybrid working out of 180 staff.

It needs to work both ways this whole WFH thing. If people don't want to they shouldn't be forced.

[zahidf]

52 minutes ago, Barry Fish said:

Back to claims of deadly experiments etc...  

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/oct/22/england-covid-ethics-personal-responsibility?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

What a whiny article. WHY ARENT MORE PEOPLE SCARED