IBee Posted September 11, 2021 Report Share Posted September 11, 2021 (edited) According to this, one billion pounds will run a large hospital, it gives the example of the Nottingham University Hospitals NHS Trust -for a year. https://www.kingsfund.org.uk/audio-video/key-facts-figures-nhs So you would need to eliminate I make it 3333 managers paid £300000 to run one large hospital for a year. They may or may not earn their money, but executive pay is a red herring with regards to NHS funding. It is the desire for easy answers like that which gave us brexit and Boris Johnson. Edited September 11, 2021 by IBee 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBee Posted September 11, 2021 Report Share Posted September 11, 2021 3 hours ago, zahidf said: I certainly won't adhere to any future lockdown. The vaccines work, enough is enough. You repeat those words like a prayer. You are actually really scared aren't you? Look, no one knows what is going to happen this winter. Hopefully things will turn out well. But they if don't, and restrictions are bought back in, even if god forbid there is another lockdown, you'll most likely be fine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted September 11, 2021 Report Share Posted September 11, 2021 If we do have another lockdown then it's because things have gone very badly and a lot of people would be suffering. It won't be because staff are tired ffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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zahidf Posted September 11, 2021 Report Share Posted September 11, 2021 2 hours ago, steviewevie said: If we do have another lockdown then it's because things have gone very badly and a lot of people would be suffering. It won't be because staff are tired ffs. I'm concerned the boffins are happy to normalise lockdowns for flu and RSV now. I was fine with restrictions for a limited time whilst we waited for covid vaccine. But that's it, no more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Matt42 Posted September 11, 2021 Report Share Posted September 11, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, IBee said: According to this, one billion pounds will run a large hospital, it gives the example of the Nottingham University Hospitals NHS Trust -for a year. https://www.kingsfund.org.uk/audio-video/key-facts-figures-nhs So you would need to eliminate I make it 3333 managers paid £300000 to run one large hospital for a year. They may or may not earn their money, but executive pay is a red herring with regards to NHS funding. It is the desire for easy answers like that which gave us brexit and Boris Johnson. Well of course if you take out the tax revenue you can’t fund it on cutting Exec salaries alone - but on top of a heavy tax bill for the poorest Britain’s - cutting the salaries at the top would help a fair bit. I don’t understand why it’s never this and always making people who earn less pay more. Edited September 11, 2021 by Matt42 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobWillis2 Posted September 12, 2021 Report Share Posted September 12, 2021 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Barry Fish said: and boom https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-58535258 No vaccine passports Not buying it. At the most he’s “scrapping” them in the short term so that he can introduce them when things get worse into the winter instead of having any firebreaks or restrictions so they can appear to be doing something. They'll be introduced by the end of October Edited September 12, 2021 by BobWillis2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt42 Posted September 12, 2021 Report Share Posted September 12, 2021 4 minutes ago, BobWillis2 said: Not buying it. At the most he’s “scrapping” them in the short term so that he can introduce them when things get worse into the winter instead of having any firebreaks or restrictions so they can appear to be doing something. They'll be introduced by the end of October I truly don’t know what to believe anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st dan Posted September 12, 2021 Report Share Posted September 12, 2021 More likely that they’ve accepted the 90% figure of all over 16s being vaccinated being as high as it’s likely to get, so they can drop this blackmail tactic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lost Posted September 12, 2021 Report Share Posted September 12, 2021 Great way to troll the SNP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzzy Afro Posted September 12, 2021 Report Share Posted September 12, 2021 Alice Roberts making a late stage run for the title of the thickest member of fake SAGE. I think Christina Pagel is still the thickest member of this clown collective but Roberts is making it a very close run race Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zahidf Posted September 12, 2021 Report Share Posted September 12, 2021 30 minutes ago, Fuzzy Afro said: Alice Roberts making a late stage run for the title of the thickest member of fake SAGE. I think Christina Pagel is still the thickest member of this clown collective but Roberts is making it a very close run race Oh deepti is the worse by far. Pagel isn't that bad, she has rolled back a bit and acknowledges good news at least Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzzy Afro Posted September 12, 2021 Report Share Posted September 12, 2021 27 minutes ago, zahidf said: Oh deepti is the worse by far. Pagel isn't that bad, she has rolled back a bit and acknowledges good news at least Deepti isn’t part of fake SAGE. If she was though, she’d be the worst by a mile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobWillis2 Posted September 12, 2021 Report Share Posted September 12, 2021 Anthony Costello is the thickest and it’s not even close. Pagel is just the annoying one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted September 12, 2021 Report Share Posted September 12, 2021 kin'ell...still goes on. Stuff to talk about but always goes back to slagging off the usual suspects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt42 Posted September 12, 2021 Report Share Posted September 12, 2021 2 hours ago, Fuzzy Afro said: Alice Roberts making a late stage run for the title of the thickest member of fake SAGE. I think Christina Pagel is still the thickest member of this clown collective but Roberts is making it a very close run race How do any of these examples hinder your life in any way possible? They seem to equate vaccine passports with wearing oven gloves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzzy Afro Posted September 12, 2021 Report Share Posted September 12, 2021 10 minutes ago, Matt42 said: How do any of these examples hinder your life in any way possible? They seem to equate vaccine passports with wearing oven gloves. Masks are dehumanising as fuck. That’s not to say there isn’t a time and place where their usage is the best of a bunch of bad options, but presenting them as some kind of non-downside intervention is completely wide of the mark. They should only be used if absolutely necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zahidf Posted September 12, 2021 Report Share Posted September 12, 2021 7 minutes ago, Fuzzy Afro said: Masks are dehumanising as fuck. That’s not to say there isn’t a time and place where their usage is the best of a bunch of bad options, but presenting them as some kind of non-downside intervention is completely wide of the mark. They should only be used if absolutely necessary. Yeah. It's not a consequence free policy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozanne Posted September 12, 2021 Report Share Posted September 12, 2021 Vaccination update: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zahidf Posted September 12, 2021 Report Share Posted September 12, 2021 Good. Enough has been enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan1984 Posted September 13, 2021 Report Share Posted September 13, 2021 Does it appear to anyone else that the new health secretary is more focused on the status of the economy than the well-being of the general public? Makes sense given his background but still… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted September 13, 2021 Report Share Posted September 13, 2021 50 minutes ago, Ryan1984 said: Does it appear to anyone else that the new health secretary is more focused on the status of the economy than the well-being of the general public? Makes sense given his background but still… He's a fan of Ayn Rand apparently, small state neoconservative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyT Posted September 13, 2021 Report Share Posted September 13, 2021 Any sort of reverse from where we are now is fucking insane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzzy Afro Posted September 13, 2021 Report Share Posted September 13, 2021 3 hours ago, Ryan1984 said: Does it appear to anyone else that the new health secretary is more focused on the status of the economy than the well-being of the general public? Makes sense given his background but still… I mean, the last one was more concerned with shagging a random woman than either of the above so it’s a clear improvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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