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6 minutes ago, King101 said:

The main riff in that song is probably heavier than anything Kiss have ever done but nobody every debates if they’re too pop to headline.

Okay, going to have to backtrack on this song. It appears after a second listen, the title and the actual song on it when I first listened were different. No riffs at all and just a very slow song. How I don't know but I guess it's been uploaded incorrectly, it does happen the odd time.

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BMTH, The Offspring, Enter Shikari, Don Broco, Ghostemane, Creeper, Yonaka, Employed To Serve, Zippo: Behemoth Avalance: Underoath Dogtooth: Mr Bungle

Muse, Trivium, Limp Bizkit, Skindred, The Hu, Kvelertak, Puppy. Zippo: Sabaton Avalanche: Refused Dogtooth: Mayhem 

RATM, Run The Jewels, Frank Carter And The Rattlesnakes, Idles, Neck Deep, Anti-Flag, Blood Youth Zippo: BFMV Avalanche: Fever 333 Dogtooth: Health

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6 hours ago, Alex Winstone said:

BMTH, The Offspring, Enter Shikari, Don Broco, Ghostemane, Creeper, Yonaka, Employed To Serve, Zippo: Behemoth Avalance: Underoath Dogtooth: Mr Bungle

Muse, Trivium, Limp Bizkit, Skindred, The Hu, Kvelertak, Puppy. Zippo: Sabaton Avalanche: Refused Dogtooth: Mayhem 

RATM, Run The Jewels, Frank Carter And The Rattlesnakes, Idles, Neck Deep, Anti-Flag, Blood Youth Zippo: BFMV Avalanche: Fever 333 Dogtooth: Health

Just my view but The Offspring are well out of place there, they also likely won't be around un 2023 given this November tour and likely a date next year. I can't think what they are going to next year though as coming back late summer for Reading makes no sense for them really.

Muse isn't the worst shit as I don't see many other festivals giving them that headline spot. 

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4 minutes ago, thewayiam said:

Just my view but The Offspring are well out of place there, they also likely won't be around un 2023 given this November tour and likely a date next year. I can't think what they are going to next year though as coming back late summer for Reading makes no sense for them really.

Muse isn't the worst shit as I don't see many other festivals giving them that headline spot. 

Or they are just playing Download and they are waiting for their tour to finish before being announced so it doesn’t affect their tix sales. The Offspring’s time at R&L is well and truly over, I’m surprised you’re even saw that as a possibility.

I find this stuff with Muse headlining IOW strange, people are trying to make out Muse wouldn’t still be headlining R&L, BST, Glasto and playing stadiums just because they can’t accept IOW have gotten a big headliner again. It wasn’t that long ago IOW were getting Fleetwood Mac, Blur, The Killers, The Who etc.

 

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10 hours ago, jump said:

Or they are just playing Download and they are waiting for their tour to finish before being announced so it doesn’t affect their tix sales. The Offspring’s time at R&L is well and truly over, I’m surprised you’re even saw that as a possibility.

I find this stuff with Muse headlining IOW strange, people are trying to make out Muse wouldn’t still be headlining R&L, BST, Glasto and playing stadiums just because they can’t accept IOW have gotten a big headliner again. It wasn’t that long ago IOW were getting Fleetwood Mac, Blur, The Killers, The Who etc.

 

Agree about IOW. I said in another thread (might’ve been this one tbf) that I was worried their pull for big names was diminishing but evidently not, it was probably just a case of who was and wasn’t available at the time so had to settle for new and upcoming headline acts. Muse are massive ticker shifter + still really popular with people my age in their early 20s so I don’t see why they wouldn’t do R&L again.

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1 hour ago, FeverDream said:

Agree about IOW. I said in another thread (might’ve been this one tbf) that I was worried their pull for big names was diminishing but evidently not, it was probably just a case of who was and wasn’t available at the time so had to settle for new and upcoming headline acts. Muse are massive ticker shifter + still really popular with people my age in their early 20s so I don’t see why they wouldn’t do R&L again.

There was an interesting topic of discussion in the Glasto section (before IOW was announced) that maybe the stadium acts are gonna have to play the middling festivals every now and them due to there being only so big many festivals for them to play and it's not uncommon for the likes of Foo Fighters or Metallica to play 50k festivals in other countries.

In any case the idea that Muse won't be offered headline slots anymore like they are now Ash or Primal Scream who have headlined Glasto back in the day is silly.

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2 hours ago, FeverDream said:

Agree about IOW. I said in another thread (might’ve been this one tbf) that I was worried their pull for big names was diminishing but evidently not, it was probably just a case of who was and wasn’t available at the time so had to settle for new and upcoming headline acts. Muse are massive ticker shifter + still really popular with people my age in their early 20s so I don’t see why they wouldn’t do R&L again.

Muse aren't the shifter they were. I wouldn't be so sure they'll do a stadium tour again, of multiple dates at least. A one off at London or something but you wouldn't be scraping for tickets like 10 years ago.

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7 minutes ago, thewayiam said:

Muse aren't the shifter they were. I wouldn't be so sure they'll do a stadium tour again, of multiple dates at least. A one off at London or something but you wouldn't be scraping for tickets like 10 years ago.

They sold out their last UK stadium tour which was only a couple of years ago. 

I'm actually annoyed I missed them on their last tour as they had Tom Morello supporting but their London show was the same day as both Champions League and Camden Rocks.

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11 minutes ago, jump said:

They sold out their last UK stadium tour which was only a couple of years ago. 

I'm actually annoyed I missed them on their last tour as they had Tom Morello supporting but their London show was the same day as both Champions League and Camden Rocks.

They even came back to do arenas after their stadium run. London stadium + 2 02 dates in the same summer isn't nothing

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I think the Muse IOW appearance is more just down to something to tick off the list. Traditionally it was a hugely important festival and it's one of the few they haven't done so why not?

Won't be a popular comment in this thread but at the time when they were announced to play Download there was talk they were on the way down in popularity due to the booking yet the year after they headlined Glastonbury again.

They are still one of the biggest draws in the UK and worldwide, there is no festival they are not headlining if they want to headline it.

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25 minutes ago, metallimuse said:

I think the Muse IOW appearance is more just down to something to tick off the list. Traditionally it was a hugely important festival and it's one of the few they haven't done so why not?

Muse have headlined IOW before.

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18 minutes ago, gabrielomachado said:

realistic wishlist

 

METALLICA / Trivium / Gojira

2nd: Sabaton

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RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE / Architects / Run The Jewels

2nd: Halestorm

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AVENGED SEVENFOLD / Ghost / Disturbed

2nd: Slash

Excellent lineup (except Ghost should be headlining the next time they play). I’d buy a ticket in a heartbeat. 

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2 minutes ago, Andre91 said:

Excellent lineup (except Ghost should be headlining the next time they play). I’d buy a ticket in a heartbeat. 

The fact they should is exactly why they probably won't, this is Download Festival remember 😛

In terms of big names I don't think they could get a better three than Metallica / RATM / A7X as much as they need a new name in there.

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Machine Head and Amon Amarth co-headline arena your announced for UK and Europe Autumn 2022. Both good bets for Download 2023 unless they headline Bloodstock that year. 

Porcupine Tree reunion too. UK/Europe dates tba for Oct/Nov next year. Another candidate too. 

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1 hour ago, Spiral_Low said:

Machine Head and Amon Amarth co-headline arena your announced for UK and Europe Autumn 2022. Both good bets for Download 2023 unless they headline Bloodstock that year. 

Porcupine Tree reunion too. UK/Europe dates tba for Oct/Nov next year. Another candidate too. 

so they finally gave up from that "no support, no festival" thing. hope to see them subbing Metallica in 2023

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Machine Head x Amon Amarth targeting an arena tour of that size of mighty brave (or stupid). They both played 3,500 capacity venues the last time they were in Manchester and now they think they can jump to the 21,000 capacity arena? 
 

I won’t be rushing out to get tickets yet. 

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43 minutes ago, Andre91 said:

Machine Head x Amon Amarth targeting an arena tour of that size of mighty brave (or stupid). They both played 3,500 capacity venues the last time they were in Manchester and now they think they can jump to the 21,000 capacity arena? 
 

I won’t be rushing out to get tickets yet. 

and they have only that former members of in flames band that lauched only days ago as a support

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1 hour ago, Andre91 said:

Machine Head x Amon Amarth targeting an arena tour of that size of mighty brave (or stupid). They both played 3,500 capacity venues the last time they were in Manchester and now they think they can jump to the 21,000 capacity arena? 
 

I won’t be rushing out to get tickets yet. 

Yeah I mentioned similar in the other thread. Machine Head downsized their Ally Pally show to Brixton and they are kinda hated as much as loved so I’m not sure you’d see the usual co-headlined bump when people are being put off by them too.

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10 minutes ago, jump said:

Yeah I mentioned similar in the other thread. Machine Head downsized their Ally Pally show to Brixton and they are kinda hated as much as loved so I’m not sure you’d see the usual co-headlined bump when people are being put off by them too.

Yeah, I can’t see this going well for them. I’d love to be proven otherwise but I can’t see it. 
 

What we should be getting is Limp Bizkit playing these venues. 

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3 hours ago, jump said:

Yeah I mentioned similar in the other thread. Machine Head downsized their Ally Pally show to Brixton and they are kinda hated as much as loved so I’m not sure you’d see the usual co-headlined bump when people are being put off by them too.

Most Machine Head hate comes from American right wing keyboard warriors and a handful of UK folk to try to emulate them.

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