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On 7/6/2021 at 6:50 AM, xxialac said:

27,000 people attended Vida Festival near Barcelona this weekend just gone.

No social distancing.

Shows how the festival wasn't that far off being able to take place this August, especially if they'd gone for a reduced format.

20.000 people attended festival in Utrecht. They had to show green covid certificate to enter.

Result: 1.000 infected with corona virus(so far)

https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2021/07/1000-people-at-utrecht-festival-infected-with-coronavirus/

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34 minutes ago, puckno said:

20.000 people attended festival in Utrecht. They had to show green covid certificate to enter.

Result: 1.000 infected with corona virus(so far)

https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2021/07/1000-people-at-utrecht-festival-infected-with-coronavirus/

But that’s not an outdoor festival so not really comparable.

Plus you just needed a LFT in few days before whereas (easy to commit fraud) eg Cruilla and Vida were doing them onsite.

Not saying festivals don’t cause infections but all too apparent now that outdoor-only festivals with good testing are at lower end of risk spectrum. 

 

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8 minutes ago, puckno said:

Quote: "... In total, 20,000 people attended the Verknipt outdoor festival ... " Newspaper might be wrong then.

Its not, it is an outdoor festival. There is a video in this article (in Dutch obviously) 

 

https://www.ad.nl/utrecht/lachen-dansen-knuffelen-utrecht-gaat-eindelijk-los-op-een-festival-je-voelt-je-gewoon-gelukkig~afc866611/

I mean it was always likely something like this would happen. Testing is too unreliable and vaccination rates have not yet reached herd immunity. With Delta being more infectious and vaccines less effective against getting infected than other mutations, we'll need much higher vaccination rates to safely hold festivals again.

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The Dutch experience is that there's a huge difference between tightly controlled events that are closely monitored, and open events that people treat like they're back to normal. We went from about 600 cases per day to 10,000 in about 10 days.

I'm also pretty skeptical that a packed outdoor festival is considered low risk. It might be outdoors, but people are crammed into an enclosed space with close proximity to the same people for about an hour, shouting and cheering.

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Interesting that PS updated the poster immediately when both Phoenix and Ride were announced. 

But there still hasn't been any update since Warpaint, Little Simz, Cuco or Khruangbin. In fact, there isn't any mention on the website at all of the Poble Espanyol Khruangbin show.

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5 hours ago, xxialac said:

Too much of the Utrecht festival was people crammed inside without good ventilation 

 

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Noone will be able to say where exactly the infections happend. The relevant point here is: It is very unlikey that a single person infected all the others, the testing regime must have slipped several positive cases. I think it absolutely possible that festivals will start to demand vaccination from attendees in the coming years, once the inevitable legislation to allow that is in place

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1 hour ago, Quadrophobia said:

Noone will be able to say where exactly the infections happend. The relevant point here is: It is very unlikey that a single person infected all the others, the testing regime must have slipped several positive cases. I think it absolutely possible that festivals will start to demand vaccination from attendees in the coming years, once the inevitable legislation to allow that is in place

It got pretty messed up, but still shows the reality of actual events that aren't controlled tests. The QR codes weren't always verified, people sometimes just waved the phones at stewards and got in, some people copied QR codes from their friends, etc. And there's still the more fundamental problems:

  • too few people in the age group were vaccinated;
  • vaccinated people could still be contagious;
  • Delta is extremely contagious;
  • people were in enclosed spaces for extended periods.

And everyone acted like Covid was over.

They're now saying that for future events, simply being vaccinated isn't enough, and those people need to be tested as well.

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7 minutes ago, BA_Barrabus said:

Anyone received anything further re ticketing since we had to choose a weekend or upgrade? Believe it was July when we're next meant to hear something.

*Checks calendar*

Although the email did initially say that payment will be taken by July, as far as I remember they sent out a contradictory email the following week requesting funds much sooner. I know for me personally, I've paid for (and received) my upgraded tickets for a couple months now.  

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Interesting!

This is what I got from REDTKT back in May:

 

Thank you for filling out the form, your request has already been processed. PRIMAVERA SOUND will contact you in July to formalize the weekend selection or the upgrade to Weekend 1 + Weekend 2 ticket.

Looking forward to seeing you at Primavera Sound 2022!

 

Nothing since 🤷‍♂️

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5 hours ago, BA_Barrabus said:

Interesting!

This is what I got from REDTKT back in May:

 

Thank you for filling out the form, your request has already been processed. PRIMAVERA SOUND will contact you in July to formalize the weekend selection or the upgrade to Weekend 1 + Weekend 2 ticket.

Looking forward to seeing you at Primavera Sound 2022!

 

Nothing since 🤷‍♂️

yep - that's the first one, then slightly later i got one to pay/confirm. 

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16 minutes ago, Ohjesus said:

yep - that's the first one, then slightly later i got one to pay/confirm. 

Presume that's pay/confirm for the upgrade? I just opted for wknd 1 so no further action my end I hope, as I've received no further comms.

Maybe they will surprise me with a wee email on Saturday at 11.30pm

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17 hours ago, BA_Barrabus said:

Presume that's pay/confirm for the upgrade? I just opted for wknd 1 so no further action my end I hope, as I've received no further comms.

Maybe they will surprise me with a wee email on Saturday at 11.30pm

ah yes, it was.

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