Music Festivals given go ahead from late May...

[crazyfool1]

19 minutes ago, DirtyLurker said:

Think my anxiety levels may have been reduced tenfold by @bennyhana22 calm & considered postings above - thank you. 

Heading to Latitude tomorrow - an actual festival for the 1st time in nearly 2 years😁 - having swung from being extremely excited to extremely apprehensive almost hourly for the past few months.

Right now, this minute, I'm pretty excited 🕺🎶💜

 

 

Just spoken to my type 1 diabetic , diabetes nurse sister , and she’s told me to go for it … vaccines work for these variants … who knows what the future brings … as safe as I’m going to be … I’m type 1 too … so you should be lower risk than me 🙂 

[DirtyLurker]

3 minutes ago, crazyfool1 said:

Just spoken to my type 1 diabetic , diabetes nurse sister , and she’s told me to go for it … vaccines work for these variants … who knows what the future brings … as safe as I’m going to be … I’m type 1 too … so you should be lower risk than me 🙂 

My risk isn't the worry, it's my comprised immune system partner, if it was just me I'd be running straight in to that mosh pit & hugging all the strangers 😅😅

Have the best time at Fatboy, it really will be off the frickin chain, old Norm is awesome at any time but this is going to be something special, dance your little socks off!

 

 

[crazyfool1]

8 minutes ago, DirtyLurker said:

My risk isn't the worry, it's my comprised immune system partner, if it was just me I'd be running straight in to that mosh pit & hugging all the strangers 😅😅

Have the best time at Fatboy, it really will be off the frickin chain, old Norm is awesome at any time but this is going to be something special, dance your little socks off!

 

 

And you at latitude 🙂 … think I’ve forgotten how to dance … actually that’s a lie I never could to start with … 😜but give it a damn good go 

[Leyrulion]

This is the procedure for Oxfam volunteers for latitude, photos of the tests and your id so difficult to fake. 

 

Oxfam COVID-19 Testing Procedure 

You are required to take a lateral flow test (LFT) before you arrive and share the results with us to prove that you do not carry the virus. You can order tests online for free HERE or you can ask at your local pharmacy for a pack. You can find your nearest pharmacy HERE.

The test must be carried out on TUESDAY 20th July between 4pm and 10pm

Please can we ask you to do the test as close as possible to 4pm and email it through to us as soon as it is complete.  This will enable us to do as much checking as possible during Tuesday evening – which will be a big help! 

In order for this to be valid we need you to follow the instructions below. This should take around 30 minutes:

- Take a picture of the test next to your photo ID (which shows your name and face) before taking the test. This needs to show your ID alongside the LFT so that the digits underneath the QR code can be read in the picture.

- Take the test as per the instruction booklet and wait the 30 minutes required to show the result.

- Upload your results to the official NHS website HERE. Please make sure to fill in your email address to get a copy of the record.

- Take a picture of your ID alongside the completed test, again making sure the digits underneath the QR code are legible.

- If your test is negative, forward your NHS email confirming your negative test result with the subject line "Latitude LFT Results" to us at festivals@oxfam.org.uk and attach the before and after pictures of the LFT with your photo ID. Please you send just one email, with the subject line above. 

- If your test is positive, please forward the NHS email confirming this test result and attach the before and after pictures of your test to festivals@oxfam.org.uk and we will cancel your place. You will need to self isolate in line with government guidance 

Please make sure you email your proof on Tuesday evening before 10pm, otherwise you will not be granted access to site. As mentioned above, please do this as soon as you possibly can on Tuesday. 

[august1]

5 minutes ago, Leyrulion said:

This is the procedure for Oxfam volunteers for latitude, photos of the tests and your id so difficult to fake. 

You could just not swab yourself and stick the solution on the LFT for a guaranteed negative test ..

Not saying anyone should do this but not exactly fool proof for anyone trying to rig it.

The test events you had could to go to a centre and do a supervised test, or take it via skype with someone watching.

 

[Zoo Music Girl]

7 hours ago, august1 said:

You could just not swab yourself and stick the solution on the LFT for a guaranteed negative test ..

Not saying anyone should do this but not exactly fool proof for anyone trying to rig it.

The test events you had could to go to a centre and do a supervised test, or take it via skype with someone watching.

 

You could also still get someone else to do the test but just take a photo before and after next to your ID. Saying that I can't think of a foolproof way for them to do these. I guess it's just about the least risky option.

[Chapple12345]

7 hours ago, august1 said:

You could just not swab yourself and stick the solution on the LFT for a guaranteed negative test ..

Not saying anyone should do this but not exactly fool proof for anyone trying to rig it.

The test events you had could to go to a centre and do a supervised test, or take it via skype with someone watching.

 

 

5 minutes ago, Zoo Music Girl said:

You could also still get someone else to do the test but just take a photo before and after next to your ID. Saying that I can't think of a foolproof way for them to do these. I guess it's just about the least risky option.

Honestly if any crowd is going to be honest about their results it will be Latitudes, the crowd is always so lovely and caring so whilst there's an element of risk I don't think people would try and cheat the system - I mean if they did what would the outcome be? Potential outbreak from the festival and the government bascially turn round and go 'you're a superspreader event, no events until its totally safe' - as Festival Republic have been responsible for  Sefton Park and Download (and are determined to get R+L on) they'll keep it as safe as possible so I think it'll be alright 

[Greenelk]

7 hours ago, Leyrulion said:

This is the procedure for Oxfam volunteers for latitude, photos of the tests and your id so difficult to fake. 

 

Oxfam COVID-19 Testing Procedure 

 

That's slightly different from some of of the other workers procedures.  I've got to take a photo of the test next to my face.  Still the same issues with people faking it if they choose.  I've also got to go to a 30 minute talk when I arrive, and I've had to read all sorts of things around making sure I'm aware of electricity around the site if setting up tents and structures.  I'm going as press, so not sure quite why all that last bit is strictly necessary.  Apparently we also get a wristband that will be scanned around the site, to make sure our test status is up to date, and that we've filled in the daily questionnaire.

They're taking it seriously!

[Zoo Music Girl]

7 minutes ago, Chapple12345 said:

 

Honestly if any crowd is going to be honest about their results it will be Latitudes, the crowd is always so lovely and caring so whilst there's an element of risk I don't think people would try and cheat the system - I mean if they did what would the outcome be? Potential outbreak from the festival and the government bascially turn round and go 'you're a superspreader event, no events until its totally safe' - as Festival Republic have been responsible for  Sefton Park and Download (and are determined to get R+L on) they'll keep it as safe as possible so I think it'll be alright 

Yeah I agree it's not that likely people will cheat it. There's no way to make it foolproof other than test people themselves at the gate which just isn't feasible.

[Quark]

7 hours ago, august1 said:

You could just not swab yourself and stick the solution on the LFT for a guaranteed negative test ..

Not saying anyone should do this but not exactly fool proof for anyone trying to rig it.

The test events you had could to go to a centre and do a supervised test, or take it via skype with someone watching.

 

Doesn't that produce a void result on the LFTs?

[efcfanwirral]

22 minutes ago, Chapple12345 said:

 

Honestly if any crowd is going to be honest about their results it will be Latitudes, the crowd is always so lovely and caring so whilst there's an element of risk I don't think people would try and cheat the system - I mean if they did what would the outcome be? Potential outbreak from the festival and the government bascially turn round and go 'you're a superspreader event, no events until its totally safe' - as Festival Republic have been responsible for  Sefton Park and Download (and are determined to get R+L on) they'll keep it as safe as possible so I think it'll be alright 

It's a strange one - I'm surprised the events have been allowed before they can use two jab proof, and maybe if they could go back they'd have done things differently. I still feel there could be some sort of u turn the next couple of weeks, with events then being given the choice of whether to use vaccine proof only or not happen. Such an easy thing for them to do in the face of their mess ups around reopening 

[Chapple12345]

24 minutes ago, Zoo Music Girl said:

Yeah I agree it's not that likely people will cheat it. There's no way to make it foolproof other than test people themselves at the gate which just isn't feasible.

Yeah exactly, and in Latitudes case getting 40,000 PCR tests done just isn't feasible as well considering the time frame they need to be done in and the capacity for testing needed, I wouldn't be surprised if most people just choose vaccination status instead as you're essentially guaranteed entry then rather than risking a test 

8 minutes ago, efcfanwirral said:

It's a strange one - I'm surprised the events have been allowed before they can use two jab proof, and maybe if they could go back they'd have done things differently. I still feel there could be some sort of u turn the next couple of weeks, with events then being given the choice of whether to use vaccine proof only or not happen. Such an easy thing for them to do in the face of their mess ups around reopening 

Yeah I reckon end of August they'll need proof of vaccination or testing before moving onto their original plan of vaccination only by the end of September 

Edited July 21, 2021 by Chapple12345

[Zoo Music Girl]

On a similar note we've received guidance from Shambala's Camp Kin event saying we will need to do LFTs beforehand. For that they just want us to register the result online and then bring the NHS text or email as proof. Also very open to abuse but I think this is all more about the event organisers looking to be seen to do something than anything.

[Leyrulion]

20 minutes ago, Zoo Music Girl said:

On a similar note we've received guidance from Shambala's Camp Kin event saying we will need to do LFTs beforehand. For that they just want us to register the result online and then bring the NHS text or email as proof. Also very open to abuse but I think this is all more about the event organisers looking to be seen to do something than anything.

Ultimately whatever system put in will be open to abuse but it's about taking reasonable steps to minimise that risk. 

Even elite athletes with the strictest testing regime in the world for performance enhancing drugs can find ways round it.

[Fuzzy Afro]

I agree with @Zoo Music Girl, we can't let perfect be the enemy of good.

 

Roughly 1% of the population has covid atm, so you'd expect roughly 400 of the 40,000 Latitude attendees to have the virus (On one hand, it may be < 1% as the attendees might be careful for the previous ten days. On the other hand, those choosing to attend a festival may be naturally more risk-takers so we could have > 1% prevalence)

 

You'd hope that the majority of the 400 who test positive on the LFT's would go ahead and own up rather than try to fake it. There will be some who will fake the LFT, but it's better to catch most of the cases and go ahead with an overall reduced risk than to cancel the event altogether surely.

[balthazarstarbuck]

Sample size of 1, but as a double jabbed Latitude goer I’m still taking an LFT before I leave tomorrow even though it’s not in my interests to. I’d like to think most people will do the same. Don’t massively like the idea of being personally responsible for an outbreak.

[foolee]

Even if some goers did fake the system to get in would the virus even spread due to the majority of the festival being outside? 

[Supernintendo Chalmers]

3 minutes ago, balthazarstarbuck said:

Sample size of 1, but as a double jabbed Latitude goer I’m still taking an LFT before I leave tomorrow even though it’s not in my interests to. I’d like to think most people will do the same. Don’t massively like the idea of being personally responsible for an outbreak.

I've packed another one to take before I come back, too. Don't want to unnecessarily transmit it to anyone I bump into on the way home or when I get home

[Homer]

Just checked Farmfestival (which is in just over a week). Need to do an LFT within 48 hours and log a negative result, and have the app T&T installed to scan (those without the app can sign in instead).

[Homer]

2 minutes ago, foolee said:

Even if some goers did fake the system to get in would the virus even spread due to the majority of the festival being outside? 

I was thinking this. If you're really that worried, just don't go in any small tents.

I'm sure even the comedy tent will be fine (it's huge).

[balthazarstarbuck]

1 minute ago, Supernintendo Chalmers said:

I've packed another one to take before I come back, too. Don't want to unnecessarily transmit it to anyone I bump into on the way home or when I get home

I’m taking the train so not sure what I can do there. It’s not as if I can stay in Latitude if I test positive. LFT and PCR when I get home though, and not going out till they’re both negative.

[Greenelk]

It's a strange old world.  As a child I was labelled Pikey Scum by some of my classmates and their parents due to the fact I lived in a caravan with my mum and dad.  Many years later I'm now part of a group being referred to as Elite Tory Scum because I'm going to a (admittedly middle class) festival this weekend.  

I suppose that the Scum part has stayed a constant throughout most of my life though 😃

[Chapple12345]

43 minutes ago, Homer said:

I was thinking this. If you're really that worried, just don't go in any small tents.

I'm sure even the comedy tent will be fine (it's huge).

Yeah I was thinking the same, Latitude seem to have gotten rid of several completely indoor stages and spaced out some of the other arenas too so there's more space and the tents left are usually pretty well ventilated so I imagine it won't be as bad 

[nikkic]

Anybody got the inside track on SGP?

There's an announcement incoming, guessing it's for a 2022 reboot?

[gooner1990]

4 hours ago, Zoo Music Girl said:

On a similar note we've received guidance from Shambala's Camp Kin event saying we will need to do LFTs beforehand. For that they just want us to register the result online and then bring the NHS text or email as proof. Also very open to abuse but I think this is all more about the event organisers looking to be seen to do something than anything.

Which was exactly what was going on at Wembley for the England games....