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3 minutes ago, Nobody Interesting said:

Makes total sense but has a couple of potential problems.

Will the government make tests free for such things? If not then where is the cost met, does the festival take it on or do the punters have to pay?

I think it should happen but sooner or later LFT's will cease to be free to all and I am sure most cannot afford loads of PCR tests to go places.

Not to mention logistically tens of thousands getting PCRs every week to get into events isn't possible, especially alongside the likely hundreds of thousands needing tests. 

21 minutes ago, TGCarr said:

If I was a festival I'd ensure testing before entering is mandated.

It's up to them to make the call, but it definitely helps them escape the incoming blame if infections sky rocket.

Plus it'll probably ease a lot of minds 

On this that's possibly one positive about festivals being forced to cancel (if there are any) - once the blame game starts, and I doubt it'll take long, they can't be blamed because they won't have been happening. 

"Personal responsibility" vs the "freedom day" celebrations we'd expect to see are not two things that go together. If anyone is to be blamed it'll be the public in general 

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I’m going to Goodwood festival of speed Friday, so I did a trial run of getting my ‘events pass’.

As I’m not fully vaccinated I need to present a negative lateral flow test. Easy stuff. Did the test and went to upload the results, expecting i’d need to take a photo of it… nope.

You self certify to test results! Absolutely bonkers, what are the chances that people are going to:

1- do the test correctly, on themselves

2- not lie about it because all their mates are negative 

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6 minutes ago, Old_Johno said:

I’m going to Goodwood festival of speed Friday, so I did a trial run of getting my ‘events pass’.

As I’m not fully vaccinated I need to present a negative lateral flow test. Easy stuff. Did the test and went to upload the results, expecting i’d need to take a photo of it… nope.

You self certify to test results! Absolutely bonkers, what are the chances that people are going to:

1- do the test correctly, on themselves

2- not lie about it because all their mates are negative 

I think a lot of that has been going on for the England games at Wembley this summer.

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14 minutes ago, Old_Johno said:

I’m going to Goodwood festival of speed Friday, so I did a trial run of getting my ‘events pass’.

As I’m not fully vaccinated I need to present a negative lateral flow test. Easy stuff. Did the test and went to upload the results, expecting i’d need to take a photo of it… nope.

You self certify to test results! Absolutely bonkers, what are the chances that people are going to:

1- do the test correctly, on themselves

2- not lie about it because all their mates are negative 

Yep, this seems to be a massive hole in most places’ supposed requirement for a negative test. Like Latitude. I’d hope most people wouldn’t be awful enough to go knowing that they are positive, but there’ll be a few.

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16 minutes ago, Old_Johno said:

You self certify to test results! Absolutely bonkers, what are the chances that people are going to:

1- do the test correctly, on themselves

2- not lie about it because all their mates are negative 

The incentives just aren’t there. I’ve got a vaccine certificate, and even though it would be a good thing for me have a test as well beforehand, there’s no reason to do so.

9 minutes ago, gooner1990 said:

I think a lot of that has been going on for the England games at Wembley this summer.

I’ve been there 3 times in the last few months, and I don’t think my test result/qr code was properly looked at once.

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Just now, balthazarstarbuck said:

The incentives just aren’t there. I’ve got a vaccine certificate, and even though it would be a good thing for me have a test as well beforehand, there’s no reason to do so.

I’ve been there 3 times in the last few months, and I don’t think my test result/qr code was properly looked at once.

I've been to two England games (Czech Rep & Germany) and they just had a quick look each time.

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1 hour ago, Old_Johno said:

I’m going to Goodwood festival of speed Friday, so I did a trial run of getting my ‘events pass’.

As I’m not fully vaccinated I need to present a negative lateral flow test. Easy stuff. Did the test and went to upload the results, expecting i’d need to take a photo of it… nope.

You self certify to test results! Absolutely bonkers, what are the chances that people are going to:

1- do the test correctly, on themselves

2- not lie about it because all their mates are negative 

The system has always had an element of trust in it there isn't really any other way to do it effectively. 

Sure some people might lie about it but those numbers would probably be far smaller than those who do test positive and don't go.

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1 hour ago, Old_Johno said:

I’m going to Goodwood festival of speed Friday, so I did a trial run of getting my ‘events pass’.

As I’m not fully vaccinated I need to present a negative lateral flow test. Easy stuff. Did the test and went to upload the results, expecting i’d need to take a photo of it… nope.

You self certify to test results! Absolutely bonkers, what are the chances that people are going to:

1- do the test correctly, on themselves

2- not lie about it because all their mates are negative 

I'm currently having to isolate due to being pinged on the app. So I thought I'd get an isolation certificate for my employers. Don't think they are asking for one, but figured it wouldn't hurt. Thought it might be linked to the app, or my booking a test, but nope. You just fill in a form and get a note that pretty much just says 'philipsteak has to isolate. Honest guv.'

So if anyone wants a week off...

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6 minutes ago, philipsteak said:

I'm currently having to isolate due to being pinged on the app. So I thought I'd get an isolation certificate for my employers. Don't think they are asking for one, but figured it wouldn't hurt. Thought it might be linked to the app, or my booking a test, but nope. You just fill in a form and get a note that pretty much just says 'philipsteak has to isolate. Honest guv.'

So if anyone wants a week off...

I'm actually trying to get some time off so I can go to Latitude, so this could be good...

Others suggested it would be safer to just call in sick, but I disagree

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8 minutes ago, Gilgamesh69 said:

I'm actually trying to get some time off so I can go to Latitude, so this could be good...

Others suggested it would be safer to just call in sick, but I disagree

It's ridiculous how easy it is. The equivalent of writing a note from your mum to get out of PE. But signing it 'mum'

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1 hour ago, Leyrulion said:

The system has always had an element of trust in it there isn't really any other way to do it effectively. 

Sure some people might lie about it but those numbers would probably be far smaller than those who do test positive and don't go.

It would be incredibly easy to have to scan the whole of the lateral flow thingy, confirm the qr code and confirm the line is in the correct place.

Could always just get the negative friend to take the test for you, but it’s another line of defence. I guess people will always lie 

 

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6 minutes ago, sisco said:

Richard Ashcroft pulled out of Tramlines as it’s a Government test event

If Victorious does the same I think he'll pull out of that too.

I actually don't blame him though, he's fully entitled to not play under those circumstances and as I said a while back. You start accepting too many testing events and it'll become the normal.

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52 minutes ago, sisco said:

Richard Ashcroft pulled out of Tramlines as it’s a Government test event

Realistically come winter he won't be allowed to do any of his own gigs without asking for covid certification, nothing yet been said about insurance for those sorts of events in terms of protecting them from liability around outbreaks but I can't see them getting any without an attempt to be "covid secure". I assume his issue is with the vaccination proof side of things which I get but as long as the test option is there then there's no problem 

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56 minutes ago, sjseabass said:

If Standon Calling manages to go ahead without being a test event, I’m not sure why any later festivals would bother participating? After what’s been said this weekend there’s no way Javid is rolling things back within 2 months of 19 July.

It gives the festival the guarantee I suppose rather waiting for gov announcements and insurance policies. 

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4 hours ago, Old_Johno said:

It would be incredibly easy to have to scan the whole of the lateral flow thingy, confirm the qr code and confirm the line is in the correct place.

Could always just get the negative friend to take the test for you, but it’s another line of defence. I guess people will always lie 

 

Scanning the code is a lot easier then building an AI that's capable of recognising the lines in the myriad of light settings people will be submitting. Or have manual verification of the photos.

Possible but at the scale these tests are operating expensive and tbh not worth it for the few dickheads that'd test positive and still go.

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