FloorFiller Posted June 22, 2021 Report Share Posted June 22, 2021 Just now, Chapple12345 said: If they have it wouldn't present itself in 2-5 days though it takes longer I believe Ah you’re right, I misunderstood and they’re just isolating at the moment (I think). My bad! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapple12345 Posted June 22, 2021 Report Share Posted June 22, 2021 1 minute ago, FloorFiller said: Ah you’re right, I misunderstood and they’re just isolating at the moment (I think). My bad! Yeah I checked too, they're just isolating currently 🙂 no worries though, I think it's hard for them to actually prove where the person they came into contact with actually was though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
km9 Posted June 22, 2021 Report Share Posted June 22, 2021 1 hour ago, thewayiam said: Unfortunately this is the same thing that will see people having to pay longterm PCR tests for events. Because at the end of the day what's the difference between you paying for something, losing it the event but not keeping the money and paying a PCR test for the same price to attend something? The difference is the latter allows you to attend it. Too any clouded minded going in here. £40 from a few people on here will not save anything, a government funding which isn't going to happen would but we will pay for that longterm anyway when you see the price of everything go up again to justify it. I'm all for gigs etc returning, I've got my festivals and gigs booked but I'm happy to let them happen in their own time rather than force them. How is it an aggressive reply though? It's not £40 from a few people on here though is it? It's £40 from everybody who wants to buy a ticket, so if they sell 20,000 tickets that's £800,000 that they know they can fall back on. Nobody is being forced to pay anything, and you'd think that them having a bit of confidence (ie knowing that they have a bit of cash flow) will help them to get the wheels in motion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennyhana22 Posted June 22, 2021 Report Share Posted June 22, 2021 1 hour ago, incident said: Unless I've missed a post, I think they're saying that they've been told to self-isolate (presumably as a result of an exposure notification on the NHS COVID app) - if the exposure was outdoors it's very unlikely to translate into catching it. Tbh I'm debating when to get rid of the app, as it's going to be increasingly less reliable/useful in predicting potential transmission, especially amongst vaccinated people and at outdoor events. Yeah, my pal received a ping after Download too. Ridiculous, really, but there you are. Test & Trace app was a condition of entry. Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennyhana22 Posted June 22, 2021 Report Share Posted June 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Chapple12345 said: Yeah I checked too, they're just isolating currently 🙂 no worries though, I think it's hard for them to actually prove where the person they came into contact with actually was though And an absurdity when you hear that two England players are excluded from tonight's game for a post-match chat with Gilmour, but the whole Scottish team, staff etc who shared a dressing room, coach, hotel etc with him are fine. And whole year groups of, essentially, not-at-risk nursery and primary school children are being sent home for 10 days. More quality, joined-up thinking from my boss of bosses, HanCOCK. Ben 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
efcfanwirral Posted June 22, 2021 Report Share Posted June 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, bennyhana22 said: Yeah, my pal received a ping after Download too. Ridiculous, really, but there you are. Test & Trace app was a condition of entry. Ben This isn't sounding good... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incident Posted June 22, 2021 Report Share Posted June 22, 2021 4 minutes ago, bennyhana22 said: Yeah, my pal received a ping after Download too. Ridiculous, really, but there you are. Test & Trace app was a condition of entry. Ben Think that checking in was a condition, but not specifically via the App - and once checked in, there's no need/reason to leave contact tracing turned on. This was the entry procedure: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennyhana22 Posted June 22, 2021 Report Share Posted June 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, incident said: Think that checking in was a condition, but not specifically via the App - and once checked in, there's no need/reason to leave contact tracing turned on. This was the entry procedure: Cool. I guess that almost everyone will have taken a phone and that they'll likely have had (and not uninstalled) the app as they'll have been understandably desperate to do anything, including committing to giving up their first born, to get back into those fields! Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennyhana22 Posted June 22, 2021 Report Share Posted June 22, 2021 Nicola Sturgeon announcing an end to 'major remaining legal restrictions' in Scotland on 9 August, that following a further easing of gathering numbers on 19 July. Nip and tuck for sooooo many events, now... Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
efcfanwirral Posted June 22, 2021 Report Share Posted June 22, 2021 There'll realistically be hundreds self isolating if people are getting pinged from a non socially distanced festival. That's a real problem for future events if we keep self isolation going, perhaps even fatally so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuie Posted June 22, 2021 Report Share Posted June 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Fish Bulb said: Not sure if this completely scientifically accurate, but I think it means festivals are completely safe and they should restart immediately. Sounds solid enough to me. I’ll pack me bags. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incident Posted June 22, 2021 Report Share Posted June 22, 2021 1 minute ago, bennyhana22 said: Cool. I guess that almost everyone will have taken a phone and that they'll likely have had (and not uninstalled) the app as they'll have been understandably desperate to do anything, including committing to giving up their first born, to get back into those fields! Ben Yeah, that sounds likely. The problem is that it means that people will be getting pings from the app because someone they stood a couple metres away from for an hour or so while watching Frank Turner subsequently logged a positive test. That kind of interaction would be risky in a badly ventilated space, and so the app would be right to flag it, but outdoors the odds of them catching something are miniscule so if people leave contact tracing on it's going to mean a lot of needless isolating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zahidf Posted June 22, 2021 Report Share Posted June 22, 2021 38 minutes ago, incident said: Yeah, that sounds likely. The problem is that it means that people will be getting pings from the app because someone they stood a couple metres away from for an hour or so while watching Frank Turner subsequently logged a positive test. That kind of interaction would be risky in a badly ventilated space, and so the app would be right to flag it, but outdoors the odds of them catching something are miniscule so if people leave contact tracing on it's going to mean a lot of needless isolating. I assume most people would put the app off once inside the Festival? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyfool1 Posted June 22, 2021 Report Share Posted June 22, 2021 anyone near stoke ? https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/your-city-festival-2021-tickets-128805194805?fbclid=IwAR2x9eLCKYTE25fMp-l382CdMoMA6gtInTZgBPqJExyxmPe1inYabkm8yoA#:~:text=Your City Festival returns in,the UK's hottest emerging talent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seldom Seen Kid Posted June 22, 2021 Report Share Posted June 22, 2021 Can confirm at Download not everyone was using the app. There was an option to sign in manually at a desk by the gates rather than log in to test and trace. Given the poor data signal on site, and the need to leave both Bluetooth and Location Services on for it to work, I doubt everyone would have left it on for the whole weekend as it wasn't great for battery life. Will be interesting to see how many people send back their post-festival tests and what results we get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zahidf Posted June 22, 2021 Report Share Posted June 22, 2021 Yup. Who normally keeps their blue tooth on for the whole festival??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayrshire Chris Posted June 22, 2021 Report Share Posted June 22, 2021 2 hours ago, bennyhana22 said: Nicola Sturgeon announcing an end to 'major remaining legal restrictions' in Scotland on 9 August, that following a further easing of gathering numbers on 19 July. Nip and tuck for sooooo many events, now... Ben She has a habit of changing dates after seeing what Boris does. Basically just copies him but announces it a week or so later so she gets a free party political broadcast and maximum media coverage. Just like today’s July 19 announcement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennyhana22 Posted June 22, 2021 Report Share Posted June 22, 2021 29 minutes ago, Ayrshire Chris said: She has a habit of changing dates after seeing what Boris does. Basically just copies him but announces it a week or so later so she gets a free party political broadcast and maximum media coverage. Just like today’s July 19 announcement. Yeah, I am starting to see that pattern, Chris, but good to have it confirmed by someone north of the wall! Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre91 Posted June 22, 2021 Report Share Posted June 22, 2021 1 hour ago, zahidf said: Yup. Who normally keeps their blue tooth on for the whole festival??? Not me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zahidf Posted June 23, 2021 Report Share Posted June 23, 2021 https://www.politico.eu/newsletter/london-playbook/politico-london-playbook-scoop-step-4-impact-assessment-england-unmasked-happy-brexit-day/ Govt seems to be heeding the economic calamity if restrictions stay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Copperface Posted June 23, 2021 Report Share Posted June 23, 2021 Fiona Stewart from Green Man and Andy Smith from KC on 5Live now. Being interviewed re festivals. Stewart saying it is crunch time now as they have payment dates imminent but that Wales might have SD rules in place for the rest of the year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalifire Posted June 23, 2021 Report Share Posted June 23, 2021 New report from the Public Accounts Committee released today. 'Eighth Report - COVID 19: Culture Recovery Fund'. Read here. Quote Festivals are making difficult decisions about whether to risk their survival by going ahead this summer, but the Department has not modelled the cost of underwriting festival indemnity insurance. Recommendation: The Department should write to us within three months setting out what it intends to do to support those that were under-represented in terms of the funding they received from the Culture Recovery Fund such as freelancers and festivals. I don't think there's any appreciation for the urgency with which festivals need help. In three months, the season will be all but over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
efcfanwirral Posted June 23, 2021 Report Share Posted June 23, 2021 20 minutes ago, kalifire said: New report from the Public Accounts Committee released today. 'Eighth Report - COVID 19: Culture Recovery Fund'. Read here. I don't think there's any appreciation for the urgency with which festivals need help. In three months, the season will be all but over. I think that's signalled their intent - to allow festivals to cancel off their own backs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
efcfanwirral Posted June 23, 2021 Report Share Posted June 23, 2021 One of the things they considered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzzy Afro Posted June 23, 2021 Report Share Posted June 23, 2021 So basically people don't want to go to some watered down festival where they have to wear face coverings and can't buy alcohol. Shock horror. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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