Paul ™ Posted July 5, 2021 Report Share Posted July 5, 2021 8 hours ago, Chapple12345 said: So many great festivals going ahead lile Tramlines, Kendal Calling, Y Not.... oh wait... the exact guidance they needed announced when it's too late Tramlines is going ahead ain't it? But yeah it's shite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapple12345 Posted July 5, 2021 Report Share Posted July 5, 2021 14 minutes ago, Paul ™ said: Tramlines is going ahead ain't it? But yeah it's shite Poo I meant Truck! So many have cancelled now I've lost track of what's still going ahead! Agreed though my thoughts are with all those effected by the cancellations but at least this means we should be able to have a season in 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incident Posted July 5, 2021 Report Share Posted July 5, 2021 20 minutes ago, Chapple12345 said: Poo I meant Truck! So many have cancelled now I've lost track of what's still going ahead! Agreed though my thoughts are with all those effected by the cancellations but at least this means we should be able to have a season in 2022 Going ahead: Latitude, Standon Calling, Camp Bestival, Wilderness, Boardmasters, BDs, R+L, Creamfields, Lost Village, Big Feastival, EOTR. Plus IOW and NASS on rearranged dates, and mini versions of Shambala and Boomtown. Probably a few others I've missed as well - but there's enough there that while it's nowhere near a proper summer, everyone should still be able to find something to interest them. If the rumours about todays announcement are true, then I'd expect all of those to make it. It'd feel odd to hold out this long and then cancel when you get an effective "all clear". Green Man is technically still on at the moment, but are in Wales under different rules and it sounds like they're about to cancel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouseboy11 Posted July 5, 2021 Report Share Posted July 5, 2021 4 minutes ago, incident said: Going ahead: Latitude, Standon Calling, Camp Bestival, Wilderness, Boardmasters, BDs, R+L, Creamfields, Lost Village, Big Feastival, EOTR. Plus IOW and NASS on rearranged dates, and mini versions of Shambala and Boomtown. Probably a few others I've missed as well - but there's enough there that while it's nowhere near a proper summer, everyone should still be able to find something to interest them. If the rumours about todays announcement are true, then I'd expect all of those to make it. It'd feel odd to hold out this long and then cancel when you get an effective "all clear". Green Man is technically still on at the moment, but are in Wales under different rules and it sounds like they're about to cancel. It's going to be interesting to see what Drakeford does, if he's too harsh on restrictions while England opens up he'll get crucified. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supernintendo Chalmers Posted July 5, 2021 Report Share Posted July 5, 2021 9 hours ago, TGCarr said: Watch the Tories try to claim this as some kind of victory when over half of festivals and shows have been postponed or cancelled due to lack of support. Insidious. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gizmoman Posted July 5, 2021 Report Share Posted July 5, 2021 6 minutes ago, incident said: Going ahead: Latitude, Standon Calling, Camp Bestival, Wilderness, Boardmasters, BDs, R+L, Creamfields, Lost Village, Big Feastival, EOTR. Plus IOW and NASS on rearranged dates, and mini versions of Shambala and Boomtown. Probably a few others I've missed as well - but there's enough there that while it's nowhere near a proper summer, everyone should still be able to find something to interest them. If the rumours about todays announcement are true, then I'd expect all of those to make it. It'd feel odd to hold out this long and then cancel when you get an effective "all clear". Green Man is technically still on at the moment, but are in Wales under different rules and it sounds like they're about to cancel. Also, Watchet, Farmer Phil's and Equinox still listed and looking good now, will believe it all when I see it but things seem to be going the right way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incident Posted July 5, 2021 Report Share Posted July 5, 2021 7 minutes ago, gizmoman said: Also, Watchet, Farmer Phil's and Equinox still listed and looking good now, will believe it all when I see it but things seem to be going the right way. Yeah, knew I'd miss a few. Also, Lakefest, We Out Here, Carfest, and if someone gets really fucking desperate, Rewind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memory Man Posted July 5, 2021 Report Share Posted July 5, 2021 Question… is insurance not still an issue? Insuring against a re-imposition of restrictions? Its not likely but you’d want to be insured for it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sisco Posted July 5, 2021 Report Share Posted July 5, 2021 And Victorious, it’s the only one I’m going to so don’t forget that! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losing my hair Posted July 5, 2021 Report Share Posted July 5, 2021 35 minutes ago, Memory Man said: Question… is insurance not still an issue? Insuring against a re-imposition of restrictions? Its not likely but you’d want to be insured for it Exactly this, even if Bowjob announces a lifting of restrictions today the essential problem remains; can they get any insurance in case of a sudden reimposition of restrictions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Interesting Posted July 5, 2021 Report Share Posted July 5, 2021 22 minutes ago, Losing my hair said: Exactly this, even if Bowjob announces a lifting of restrictions today the essential problem remains; can they get any insurance in case of a sudden reimposition of restrictions? Dowden said last week that they will look at what the insurance industry does AFTER 19th July before looking into any government backed insurance. So no help at all from government and still the same doubts over restrictions bei9ng put back in especially as large gatherings will be first to go if that happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGCarr Posted July 5, 2021 Report Share Posted July 5, 2021 If I was a festival I'd ensure testing before entering is mandated. It's up to them to make the call, but it definitely helps them escape the incoming blame if infections sky rocket. Plus it'll probably ease a lot of minds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Interesting Posted July 5, 2021 Report Share Posted July 5, 2021 15 minutes ago, TGCarr said: If I was a festival I'd ensure testing before entering is mandated. It's up to them to make the call, but it definitely helps them escape the incoming blame if infections sky rocket. Plus it'll probably ease a lot of minds Makes total sense but has a couple of potential problems. Will the government make tests free for such things? If not then where is the cost met, does the festival take it on or do the punters have to pay? I think it should happen but sooner or later LFT's will cease to be free to all and I am sure most cannot afford loads of PCR tests to go places. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
efcfanwirral Posted July 5, 2021 Report Share Posted July 5, 2021 3 minutes ago, Nobody Interesting said: Makes total sense but has a couple of potential problems. Will the government make tests free for such things? If not then where is the cost met, does the festival take it on or do the punters have to pay? I think it should happen but sooner or later LFT's will cease to be free to all and I am sure most cannot afford loads of PCR tests to go places. Not to mention logistically tens of thousands getting PCRs every week to get into events isn't possible, especially alongside the likely hundreds of thousands needing tests. 21 minutes ago, TGCarr said: If I was a festival I'd ensure testing before entering is mandated. It's up to them to make the call, but it definitely helps them escape the incoming blame if infections sky rocket. Plus it'll probably ease a lot of minds On this that's possibly one positive about festivals being forced to cancel (if there are any) - once the blame game starts, and I doubt it'll take long, they can't be blamed because they won't have been happening. "Personal responsibility" vs the "freedom day" celebrations we'd expect to see are not two things that go together. If anyone is to be blamed it'll be the public in general Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old_Johno Posted July 5, 2021 Report Share Posted July 5, 2021 I’m going to Goodwood festival of speed Friday, so I did a trial run of getting my ‘events pass’. As I’m not fully vaccinated I need to present a negative lateral flow test. Easy stuff. Did the test and went to upload the results, expecting i’d need to take a photo of it… nope. You self certify to test results! Absolutely bonkers, what are the chances that people are going to: 1- do the test correctly, on themselves 2- not lie about it because all their mates are negative Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gooner1990 Posted July 5, 2021 Report Share Posted July 5, 2021 6 minutes ago, Old_Johno said: I’m going to Goodwood festival of speed Friday, so I did a trial run of getting my ‘events pass’. As I’m not fully vaccinated I need to present a negative lateral flow test. Easy stuff. Did the test and went to upload the results, expecting i’d need to take a photo of it… nope. You self certify to test results! Absolutely bonkers, what are the chances that people are going to: 1- do the test correctly, on themselves 2- not lie about it because all their mates are negative I think a lot of that has been going on for the England games at Wembley this summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brave Sir Robin Posted July 5, 2021 Report Share Posted July 5, 2021 14 minutes ago, Old_Johno said: I’m going to Goodwood festival of speed Friday, so I did a trial run of getting my ‘events pass’. As I’m not fully vaccinated I need to present a negative lateral flow test. Easy stuff. Did the test and went to upload the results, expecting i’d need to take a photo of it… nope. You self certify to test results! Absolutely bonkers, what are the chances that people are going to: 1- do the test correctly, on themselves 2- not lie about it because all their mates are negative Yep, this seems to be a massive hole in most places’ supposed requirement for a negative test. Like Latitude. I’d hope most people wouldn’t be awful enough to go knowing that they are positive, but there’ll be a few. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balthazarstarbuck Posted July 5, 2021 Report Share Posted July 5, 2021 16 minutes ago, Old_Johno said: You self certify to test results! Absolutely bonkers, what are the chances that people are going to: 1- do the test correctly, on themselves 2- not lie about it because all their mates are negative The incentives just aren’t there. I’ve got a vaccine certificate, and even though it would be a good thing for me have a test as well beforehand, there’s no reason to do so. 9 minutes ago, gooner1990 said: I think a lot of that has been going on for the England games at Wembley this summer. I’ve been there 3 times in the last few months, and I don’t think my test result/qr code was properly looked at once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gooner1990 Posted July 5, 2021 Report Share Posted July 5, 2021 Just now, balthazarstarbuck said: The incentives just aren’t there. I’ve got a vaccine certificate, and even though it would be a good thing for me have a test as well beforehand, there’s no reason to do so. I’ve been there 3 times in the last few months, and I don’t think my test result/qr code was properly looked at once. I've been to two England games (Czech Rep & Germany) and they just had a quick look each time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyrulion Posted July 5, 2021 Report Share Posted July 5, 2021 1 hour ago, Old_Johno said: I’m going to Goodwood festival of speed Friday, so I did a trial run of getting my ‘events pass’. As I’m not fully vaccinated I need to present a negative lateral flow test. Easy stuff. Did the test and went to upload the results, expecting i’d need to take a photo of it… nope. You self certify to test results! Absolutely bonkers, what are the chances that people are going to: 1- do the test correctly, on themselves 2- not lie about it because all their mates are negative The system has always had an element of trust in it there isn't really any other way to do it effectively. Sure some people might lie about it but those numbers would probably be far smaller than those who do test positive and don't go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philipsteak Posted July 5, 2021 Report Share Posted July 5, 2021 1 hour ago, Old_Johno said: I’m going to Goodwood festival of speed Friday, so I did a trial run of getting my ‘events pass’. As I’m not fully vaccinated I need to present a negative lateral flow test. Easy stuff. Did the test and went to upload the results, expecting i’d need to take a photo of it… nope. You self certify to test results! Absolutely bonkers, what are the chances that people are going to: 1- do the test correctly, on themselves 2- not lie about it because all their mates are negative I'm currently having to isolate due to being pinged on the app. So I thought I'd get an isolation certificate for my employers. Don't think they are asking for one, but figured it wouldn't hurt. Thought it might be linked to the app, or my booking a test, but nope. You just fill in a form and get a note that pretty much just says 'philipsteak has to isolate. Honest guv.' So if anyone wants a week off... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilgamesh69 Posted July 5, 2021 Report Share Posted July 5, 2021 6 minutes ago, philipsteak said: I'm currently having to isolate due to being pinged on the app. So I thought I'd get an isolation certificate for my employers. Don't think they are asking for one, but figured it wouldn't hurt. Thought it might be linked to the app, or my booking a test, but nope. You just fill in a form and get a note that pretty much just says 'philipsteak has to isolate. Honest guv.' So if anyone wants a week off... I'm actually trying to get some time off so I can go to Latitude, so this could be good... Others suggested it would be safer to just call in sick, but I disagree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philipsteak Posted July 5, 2021 Report Share Posted July 5, 2021 8 minutes ago, Gilgamesh69 said: I'm actually trying to get some time off so I can go to Latitude, so this could be good... Others suggested it would be safer to just call in sick, but I disagree It's ridiculous how easy it is. The equivalent of writing a note from your mum to get out of PE. But signing it 'mum' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennyhana22 Posted July 5, 2021 Report Share Posted July 5, 2021 https://accessaa.co.uk/green-man-festival-owner-calls-for-welsh-reopening/ Ben 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old_Johno Posted July 5, 2021 Report Share Posted July 5, 2021 1 hour ago, Leyrulion said: The system has always had an element of trust in it there isn't really any other way to do it effectively. Sure some people might lie about it but those numbers would probably be far smaller than those who do test positive and don't go. It would be incredibly easy to have to scan the whole of the lateral flow thingy, confirm the qr code and confirm the line is in the correct place. Could always just get the negative friend to take the test for you, but it’s another line of defence. I guess people will always lie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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