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I think it was always going to be a case that this year would be the year of rebuilding, I do think festivals will happen this summer whether they be trial events or later on in the summer/early autumn with eased restrictions, if they're lifted I can also see plenty of pop up gigs being announced too last minute. At least we all have fair confidence the 2022 festival season is going to go ahead and will be a proper celebration of how far we've come 

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10 hours ago, km9 said:

Seems fair to me. They risk putting on a festival and all the work, time and effort that goes with it, while you risk 40 quid. Without that deposit there would be no chance of a festival. I'd be happy with that.

Let's get this right. You'd be happy to lose £40 quid on an event that doesn't go ahead? This is mad.

That's basically me saying to you, this gig is £40, you aren't going to it but you're still paying for it. It's ludicrousy.

You've got people out there struggling to make ends meat and put food on the same who would make a £40 shop last as long as possible but you would just chuck it away. 

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6 minutes ago, thewayiam said:

Let's get this right. You'd be happy to lose £40 quid on an event that doesn't go ahead? This is mad.

That's basically me saying to you, this gig is £40, you aren't going to it but you're still paying for it. It's ludicrousy.

You've got people out there struggling to make ends meat and put food on the same who would make a £40 shop last as long as possible but you would just chuck it away. 

I lost £40 on a football bet the other day. It’s no different. 

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5 minutes ago, thewayiam said:

Let's get this right. You'd be happy to lose £40 quid on an event that doesn't go ahead? This is mad.

That's basically me saying to you, this gig is £40, you aren't going to it but you're still paying for it. It's ludicrousy.

You've got people out there struggling to make ends meat and put food on the same who would make a £40 shop last as long as possible but you would just chuck it away. 

I’ve donated plenty of money over the last year to music venues and musicians’ hardship charities, because it’s something I love and I’m lucky enough to have kept my job over lockdown. Why is this any different?

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15 minutes ago, thewayiam said:

Let's get this right. You'd be happy to lose £40 quid on an event that doesn't go ahead? This is mad.

That's basically me saying to you, this gig is £40, you aren't going to it but you're still paying for it. It's ludicrousy.

You've got people out there struggling to make ends meat and put food on the same who would make a £40 shop last as long as possible but you would just chuck it away. 

It's saying that this is a community event you really like and would give £40 to support. 

No one's doing this if they need to make a£40 shop last two months. 

It's essentially like the patreon funders people use on YouTube etc.

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Yeah I wouldn't see it really as chucking it away. I think you see it as a charitable donation to help an event that you love continue (much like paying for the Glasto live stream although appreciate you got something for that). If you can't afford it or don't think it's worth iy you don't go, basically. They are being pretty upfront about it and they did come up with this option after a survey to see if people would be up for it so obviously enough are to make it viable as an option. 

It's shit that festivals are in this position but I guess that is the reality for many now.

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31 minutes ago, thewayiam said:

Let's get this right. You'd be happy to lose £40 quid on an event that doesn't go ahead? This is mad.

That's basically me saying to you, this gig is £40, you aren't going to it but you're still paying for it. It's ludicrousy.

You've got people out there struggling to make ends meat and put food on the same who would make a £40 shop last as long as possible but you would just chuck it away. 

Stop gambling, people buying products they don’t need and going on holidays or any entertainment then too as others need it more?!

This is about people wanting to take the risk, wanting to help something they love. You don’t want to, don’t buy a ticket.  I know if Glastonbury asked the same next year I’d pay it.

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1 hour ago, thewayiam said:

Let's get this right. You'd be happy to lose £40 quid on an event that doesn't go ahead? This is mad.

That's basically me saying to you, this gig is £40, you aren't going to it but you're still paying for it. It's ludicrousy.

You've got people out there struggling to make ends meat and put food on the same who would make a £40 shop last as long as possible but you would just chuck it away. 

Yes I would.

Why does every reply need to be so aggressive? It was just my opinion.

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2 hours ago, thewayiam said:

Let's get this right. You'd be happy to lose £40 quid on an event that doesn't go ahead? This is mad.

That's basically me saying to you, this gig is £40, you aren't going to it but you're still paying for it. It's ludicrousy.

You've got people out there struggling to make ends meat and put food on the same who would make a £40 shop last as long as possible but you would just chuck it away. 

I'd probably not do it until after 19th and seeing a substantial reduction in restrictions, but yeah I would do it if we got to that point. Insurance won't appear this summer and government will still have emergency powers so it is likely the only way some would get through, not that I think many would go down that road 

Not sure I'd do it now when I'm sceptical about what 19th July actually means! 

Not sure I agree on the rest though- you could make the argument buying tickets for the gig in the first place is in the same category

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2 hours ago, thewayiam said:

Let's get this right. You'd be happy to lose £40 quid on an event that doesn't go ahead? This is mad.

That's basically me saying to you, this gig is £40, you aren't going to it but you're still paying for it. It's ludicrousy.

You've got people out there struggling to make ends meat and put food on the same who would make a £40 shop last as long as possible but you would just chuck it away. 

It's not being chucked away, without there's no chance the festival would happen. Yeah it's a luxury to be able to afford to do that but if you're struggling to make ends meet that much you're also not going to festivals that cost £100s in the first place.

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3 hours ago, thewayiam said:

Let's get this right. You'd be happy to lose £40 quid on an event that doesn't go ahead? This is mad.

That's basically me saying to you, this gig is £40, you aren't going to it but you're still paying for it. It's ludicrousy.

You've got people out there struggling to make ends meat and put food on the same who would make a £40 shop last as long as possible but you would just chuck it away. 

I don’t get why it’s so hard to understand. To support an event and to have a chance of going to it, people are willing to risk £40. 

Other people struggling to make ends meet really doesn’t have anything to do with it.  Some people might go to the casino, some might buy some drugs, not really anyone else’s concern what people ‘waste’ £40 on is it?

And before you start calling me names again, I earn my money, pay my tax and support several charities with both money and time.  

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18 minutes ago, JoeyT said:

Sigh.

 

Just read this- it's all so contradictory from the government. Do pilot events with testing but dont have any confidence in actually putting them on (as shown by lack of insurance "in case they're cancelled due to a covid outbreak". The bar for cancelling events must be VERY low if they're willing to throw the testing model away in the event of an outbreak, which i thought was supposed to mitigate it whatever is going on in the outside world

If its just about optics, you may as well tell the industry its closed down til next year mainly, because if people don't want to see these events now, wait til winter and see how scared they are of crowds...

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20 minutes ago, JoeyT said:

Sigh.

 

The only thing with the ERP events is that of course they are likely to be 'safe' when every person attending has tested negative. There aren't any pilots of festivals/events with uncontrolled entry as far as I know.

With either vaccination or a negative test before it's a bit of a false bar to hit. 

Of course, if all events were subject to the same restrictions, it is a valid result..

I saw also that the post event test return rates for the Liverpool events were something like 25%  and 43% respectively and that some other method was used to draw conclusions.

I am quite sure that the risk will be low by the time they come around, but not that convinced about the current ERP and its relevance to a summer when a majority will have been vaccinated. Appears to me to be a bit of an industry/DCMS fudge.

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34 minutes ago, Copperface said:

The only thing with the ERP events is that of course they are likely to be 'safe' when every person attending has tested negative. There aren't any pilots of festivals/events with uncontrolled entry as far as I know.

With either vaccination or a negative test before it's a bit of a false bar to hit. 

Of course, if all events were subject to the same restrictions, it is a valid result..

I saw also that the post event test return rates for the Liverpool events were something like 25%  and 43% respectively and that some other method was used to draw conclusions.

I am quite sure that the risk will be low by the time they come around, but not that convinced about the current ERP and its relevance to a summer when a majority will have been vaccinated. Appears to me to be a bit of an industry/DCMS fudge.

I just assumed all events would involve testing for the foreseeable and that's why we're piloting it. 

My concern is that they're piloting vaccine proof now - while reducing chances of catching it is it REALLY the right thing to even allow that 20% chance when people could test as well? 

I think they're stringing it along til they can scrap the testing option and allow just vaccine proof 

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48 minutes ago, Copperface said:

The only thing with the ERP events is that of course they are likely to be 'safe' when every person attending has tested negative. There aren't any pilots of festivals/events with uncontrolled entry as far as I know.

With either vaccination or a negative test before it's a bit of a false bar to hit. 

Of course, if all events were subject to the same restrictions, it is a valid result..

 

I went to Pub in the park on Friday. Not massive or anything. a few thousand I guess. No requirement for any tests, no wearing of masks, no keep apart signs. Only thing they had in front of the stage were a hundred odd marked out boxes that you had to be in and only up to 30 people in each whilst watching the bands. However you had to wonder off for food beer etc and that had nothing in place. 

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