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27 minutes ago, Neil said:

higher than expected, i think.

I just can't see it being possible for Johnson to bring back any restrictions, let alone a lockdown. His backbenchers and cabinet wouldn't allow it. The economy is already fucked as it is. We are entering summer, surely hospitals should cope even if it does mean more non urgent stuff is postponed. Maybe masks is a possibility I guess, but...nah, not happening. Some people will likely be more careful if in the news more. This wave will probably be past it's peak in a few weeks anyway.

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Yeah can't see any restrictions personally. Are the figures worse than they were when Omicron first burst onto the scene? It would be absolute political suicide surely for Boris to implement restrictions again given everything that is going on, not least Partygate which seems to have come to an end and completely obliterated any authority behind restrictions anyway!

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If the government asks on the grounds of health then i think the public would still follow.  We don't really represent the wider public here 

Look at how many still test

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8 hours ago, Ozanne said:

Start up a new thread for Covid if you like.

Another Tory MP finding himself in hot water today:

 

 

Tory Sleaze is well and truly back.

I can’t see the public abiding by any new restrictions at all.

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Changed my mind.

Will vote Green myself as in a Labour safe seat.

But the dismantling of the natural conservation areas in favour of developers is the final straw for me.

As bad and corrupt as Labour are, the tories ARE worse.

Vote tactically folks. #GTTO

Not too much. Still very much vital to get a hung parliament. But still.

Also rumours Starmer is about to get a fine and resign.

Streeting would be worse, he might win a majority and then his rule would be more right wing. Starmer in!

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52 minutes ago, mattiloy said:

Changed my mind.

Will vote Green myself as in a Labour safe seat.

But the dismantling of the natural conservation areas in favour of developers is the final straw for me.

As bad and corrupt as Labour are, the tories ARE worse.

Vote tactically folks. #GTTO

Not too much. Still very much vital to get a hung parliament. But still.

Also rumours Starmer is about to get a fine and resign.

Streeting would be worse, he might win a majority and then his rule would be more right wing. Starmer in!

HAHAHA

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Be great if Starmer is forced to resign from a fine...

I really want a relevant Labour party and its totally irrelevant under Starmer...  Personality of a dishcloth and you can't win an election these days without a personality.  Its just a reality.  Even a damaged Boris will beat him.

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Why do people think Wes Streeting though? I remember the leadership debates, Starmer was the only one to say he wasn't a zionist and that he'd carry on Corbyns policy. He knew exactly what to say with the makeup of the labour membership. Have the momentum lot left the labour party as I can't see them voting for Streeting?

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53 minutes ago, lost said:

Why do people think Wes Streeting though? I remember the leadership debates, Starmer was the only one to say he wasn't a zionist and that he'd carry on Corbyns policy. He knew exactly what to say with the makeup of the labour membership. Have the momentum lot left the labour party as I can't see them voting for Streeting?

Long Bailey said she was a zionist?!

I don't remember that part of the debate.

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1 hour ago, lost said:

Why do people think Wes Streeting though? I remember the leadership debates, Starmer was the only one to say he wasn't a zionist and that he'd carry on Corbyns policy. He knew exactly what to say with the makeup of the labour membership. Have the momentum lot left the labour party as I can't see them voting for Streeting?

anyway, I think a lot of corbyn supporters and momentum people have left the labour party...and there isn't really a credible candidate on left at moment to get behind anyway. Personally I'm not sure about Streeting..he seems more idelogical than Starmer, and is definitely on the right of the party...and another hate figure for the corbyn crew because he wasn't loyal to their man. He seems good at media stuff though, good in interviews, not scared to have an argument, more assured than Starmer, but is likely to be hated even more on the left. It's probably between him, Reeves, Nandy and Rayner.

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10 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

Long Bailey said she was a zionist?!

I don't remember that part of the debate.

https://www.workersliberty.org/story/2020-02-19/rebecca-long-bailey-says-shes-zionist

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At a hustings organised by the Jewish Labour Movement (JLM) on 13 February, Labour leadership candidates were asked if they were a “Zionist”. Three of the four said they were; Keir Starmer said that he wasn’t, but was “supportive” of and sympathetic to Zionism.

 

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14 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

Long Bailey said she was a zionist?!

I don't remember that part of the debate.

any issue here, is down to differing views of what zionism is? at the most simple level its the right of Israel to exist.

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Is there any space these days for people just saying they just couldn't care less about Isreal or Palestine ? 

Neither side is right or wrong and its never going to be solved...

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1 hour ago, steviewevie said:

HAHAHA


I have buyers remorse. Starmer has been woeful, and I’ve enjoyed it because he’s a lying authoritarian toerag, so I’ve been quite happy to see him fail. But now he’s failing a bit too much and I’m getting worried he’s really fucked it.

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4 minutes ago, mattiloy said:


I have buyers remorse. Starmer has been woeful, and I’ve enjoyed it because he’s a lying authoritarian toerag, so I’ve been quite happy to see him fail. But now he’s failing a bit too much and I’m getting worried he’s really fucked it.

he might have been a bit dull and shit, but anyone who thought it would be different hadn't been paying attention.

still, he's much better than the previous leader.

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17 minutes ago, mattiloy said:


I have buyers remorse. Starmer has been woeful, and I’ve enjoyed it because he’s a lying authoritarian toerag, so I’ve been quite happy to see him fail. But now he’s failing a bit too much and I’m getting worried he’s really fucked it.

yes, we'll look back fondly at Starmer and what could have been.

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