Neil Posted June 30 Report Share Posted June 30 27 minutes ago, steviewevie said: But...how high is hospitalisations from covid at moment? higher than expected, i think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted June 30 Report Share Posted June 30 27 minutes ago, Neil said: higher than expected, i think. I just can't see it being possible for Johnson to bring back any restrictions, let alone a lockdown. His backbenchers and cabinet wouldn't allow it. The economy is already fucked as it is. We are entering summer, surely hospitals should cope even if it does mean more non urgent stuff is postponed. Maybe masks is a possibility I guess, but...nah, not happening. Some people will likely be more careful if in the news more. This wave will probably be past it's peak in a few weeks anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hodgey123 Posted June 30 Report Share Posted June 30 Yeah can't see any restrictions personally. Are the figures worse than they were when Omicron first burst onto the scene? It would be absolute political suicide surely for Boris to implement restrictions again given everything that is going on, not least Partygate which seems to have come to an end and completely obliterated any authority behind restrictions anyway! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Fish Posted June 30 Report Share Posted June 30 (edited) If the government asks on the grounds of health then i think the public would still follow. We don't really represent the wider public here Look at how many still test Edited June 30 by Barry Fish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fraybentos1 Posted June 30 Report Share Posted June 30 No chance of restrictions. Nobody even talks about covid anymore in real life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozanne Posted June 30 Report Share Posted June 30 Start up a new thread for Covid if you like. Another Tory MP finding himself in hot water today: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan1984 Posted July 1 Report Share Posted July 1 8 hours ago, Ozanne said: Start up a new thread for Covid if you like. Another Tory MP finding himself in hot water today: Tory Sleaze is well and truly back. I can’t see the public abiding by any new restrictions at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted July 1 Report Share Posted July 1 The first rule about non covid politics thread is you don't talk about covid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattiloy Posted July 1 Report Share Posted July 1 Changed my mind. Will vote Green myself as in a Labour safe seat. But the dismantling of the natural conservation areas in favour of developers is the final straw for me. As bad and corrupt as Labour are, the tories ARE worse. Vote tactically folks. #GTTO Not too much. Still very much vital to get a hung parliament. But still. Also rumours Starmer is about to get a fine and resign. Streeting would be worse, he might win a majority and then his rule would be more right wing. Starmer in! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozanne Posted July 1 Report Share Posted July 1 1 hour ago, Ryan1984 said: Tory Sleaze is well and truly back. I can’t see the public abiding by any new restrictions at all. Sleaze and rank incompetence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted July 1 Report Share Posted July 1 52 minutes ago, mattiloy said: Changed my mind. Will vote Green myself as in a Labour safe seat. But the dismantling of the natural conservation areas in favour of developers is the final straw for me. As bad and corrupt as Labour are, the tories ARE worse. Vote tactically folks. #GTTO Not too much. Still very much vital to get a hung parliament. But still. Also rumours Starmer is about to get a fine and resign. Streeting would be worse, he might win a majority and then his rule would be more right wing. Starmer in! HAHAHA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Fish Posted July 1 Report Share Posted July 1 (edited) Be great if Starmer is forced to resign from a fine... I really want a relevant Labour party and its totally irrelevant under Starmer... Personality of a dishcloth and you can't win an election these days without a personality. Its just a reality. Even a damaged Boris will beat him. Edited July 1 by Barry Fish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lost Posted July 1 Report Share Posted July 1 Why do people think Wes Streeting though? I remember the leadership debates, Starmer was the only one to say he wasn't a zionist and that he'd carry on Corbyns policy. He knew exactly what to say with the makeup of the labour membership. Have the momentum lot left the labour party as I can't see them voting for Streeting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted July 1 Report Share Posted July 1 53 minutes ago, lost said: Why do people think Wes Streeting though? I remember the leadership debates, Starmer was the only one to say he wasn't a zionist and that he'd carry on Corbyns policy. He knew exactly what to say with the makeup of the labour membership. Have the momentum lot left the labour party as I can't see them voting for Streeting? Long Bailey said she was a zionist?! I don't remember that part of the debate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted July 1 Report Share Posted July 1 (edited) 1 hour ago, lost said: Why do people think Wes Streeting though? I remember the leadership debates, Starmer was the only one to say he wasn't a zionist and that he'd carry on Corbyns policy. He knew exactly what to say with the makeup of the labour membership. Have the momentum lot left the labour party as I can't see them voting for Streeting? anyway, I think a lot of corbyn supporters and momentum people have left the labour party...and there isn't really a credible candidate on left at moment to get behind anyway. Personally I'm not sure about Streeting..he seems more idelogical than Starmer, and is definitely on the right of the party...and another hate figure for the corbyn crew because he wasn't loyal to their man. He seems good at media stuff though, good in interviews, not scared to have an argument, more assured than Starmer, but is likely to be hated even more on the left. It's probably between him, Reeves, Nandy and Rayner. Edited July 1 by steviewevie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lost Posted July 1 Report Share Posted July 1 10 minutes ago, steviewevie said: Long Bailey said she was a zionist?! I don't remember that part of the debate. https://www.workersliberty.org/story/2020-02-19/rebecca-long-bailey-says-shes-zionist Quote At a hustings organised by the Jewish Labour Movement (JLM) on 13 February, Labour leadership candidates were asked if they were a “Zionist”. Three of the four said they were; Keir Starmer said that he wasn’t, but was “supportive” of and sympathetic to Zionism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted July 1 Report Share Posted July 1 14 minutes ago, steviewevie said: Long Bailey said she was a zionist?! I don't remember that part of the debate. any issue here, is down to differing views of what zionism is? at the most simple level its the right of Israel to exist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Fish Posted July 1 Report Share Posted July 1 (edited) Is there any space these days for people just saying they just couldn't care less about Isreal or Palestine ? Neither side is right or wrong and its never going to be solved... Edited July 1 by Barry Fish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattiloy Posted July 1 Report Share Posted July 1 1 hour ago, steviewevie said: HAHAHA I have buyers remorse. Starmer has been woeful, and I’ve enjoyed it because he’s a lying authoritarian toerag, so I’ve been quite happy to see him fail. But now he’s failing a bit too much and I’m getting worried he’s really fucked it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted July 1 Report Share Posted July 1 4 minutes ago, mattiloy said: I have buyers remorse. Starmer has been woeful, and I’ve enjoyed it because he’s a lying authoritarian toerag, so I’ve been quite happy to see him fail. But now he’s failing a bit too much and I’m getting worried he’s really fucked it. he might have been a bit dull and shit, but anyone who thought it would be different hadn't been paying attention. still, he's much better than the previous leader. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted July 1 Report Share Posted July 1 Labour will never strike deal with SNP, Keir Starmer to pledge good move as that's possibly the ground the next election will be fought on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted July 1 Report Share Posted July 1 5 minutes ago, Neil said: Labour will never strike deal with SNP, Keir Starmer to pledge good move as that's possibly the ground the next election will be fought on. also probably a lie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted July 1 Report Share Posted July 1 34 minutes ago, lost said: https://www.workersliberty.org/story/2020-02-19/rebecca-long-bailey-says-shes-zionist JUDAS! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted July 1 Report Share Posted July 1 17 minutes ago, mattiloy said: I have buyers remorse. Starmer has been woeful, and I’ve enjoyed it because he’s a lying authoritarian toerag, so I’ve been quite happy to see him fail. But now he’s failing a bit too much and I’m getting worried he’s really fucked it. yes, we'll look back fondly at Starmer and what could have been. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted July 1 Report Share Posted July 1 Just now, steviewevie said: also probably a lie what do you think labour can gain out of a deal, if they did one, it only has negatives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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