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Morning. Looks like Russia still not taken Kyiv, but have taken a few other cities and blown up some gas and oil fields. Still doesn't look like overall victory in sight for Putin though...so god knows how this ends. Russia's economy could well collapse if all these sanctions are as tough as they sound.

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9 hours ago, mattiloy said:


Yeah it remains to be seen. But if winning elections is about capturing the zeitgeist, the hangover from the wars of 2000s was the move towards unilateralism, isolationism, nationalism and away from the globalist, internationalist, interventionist malarkey. And that stuff might just start being trendy again after this. Add in the nukes question and it puts the SNP out of step with the current mood music.

maybe...different times though. In 2000s with Iraq it was US/UK acting unilaterally without much support from the rest of the world...and even then not sure that was the main reason for all the populist nationalism, think that was the 2008 crash. This time the world seems pretty united in condeming Russia, even China is not being fully supportive as expected.

But, I also think if suddenly there is a new cold war and Russia poses a threat to europe, many in Scotland would prefer to stay as part of UK and suddenly independence seems less of a priority.

Or they see England as Russia to their plucky little Ukraine!

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10 hours ago, Ozanne said:

Johnson once again forced into doing the right thing. 

At least he won’t have to reveal which of his friends “loaned” money from the government. 
 

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2022/feb/26/names-of-firms-given-huge-covid-loans-will-be-secret

 

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5 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

 

...Nato does not want to fight Russia militarily, because where does that lead..? massive war in europe with 10s of thousands dead? and Putin knows this. And now Russia will likely try and decapitate Ukraine's leadership and try and put in a puppet govt...but the population of Ukraine will likely never accept this...and maybe eventually Putin will fail somehow. I guess that is the best the west can hope for.

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I have to say it was surreal to be sat in the "happiest place on earth" (Disneyland California) during the last week to be reading the news about the Russians invading Ukraine and a return to war in Europe.  Not sure there is much more we can do - I am surprised we (NATO) have done so much.  Its pretty clear we have sent quite a bit of military equipment for "defence".  The Russian army might be big but from a technology point of view its old.  So a bit of equipment will go a long way.  Some of the calls for NATO to do more is basically a request for WW3 which will have an almost certain nuclear ending.

Not sure where this is going to go or what Putin wants and god knows what happens the more the current invasion stalls.  A desperate dictator isn't a good thing to have 😞  I guess the best case will be a Russian coup internally to remove the fucking idiot.

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13 minutes ago, Hannibal Schmitt said:

EU with new sanctions:

financial support for weapons for ukraine

no Russian media in Europe allowed

no flights allowed in european air space

economical sanctions also against Belarus

RT getting banned here too? I guess that means Russia bans BBC and other western news channels (if they haven't already). 

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