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11 minutes ago, Justiceforcedave said:

I wonder how they solve all the other crimes? You know the ones which the media aren't investigating and collecting evidence for?

For the other crimes they don't have to make up a ridiculous excuse of why they aren't investigating until insurmountable evidence says otherwise.

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32 minutes ago, Ryan1984 said:

Do you think we’ll get to hear what Whitty, Valance and Van Tam think about the “No need to isolate” rule?

 

Van Tam is back doing his day job now.  I don't really care any more about what a limited subset of the scientific community think anymore.  Restrictions are as much about peoples feelings and politics as they are about medical issues and science.

Two years in if you still need Whitty to tell you what to think then you have probably been living in a box.  

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5 hours ago, Ozanne said:

Indeed, this government seem much happier just lying their way through everything, our system isn't set-up to deal with such blatant abuse of powers.

It’s because they know that lying their way through things works for them. All started at the referendum. £350m for the NHS. Sovereignty. Control the borders. Improved trade. Oven ready deal. No deal is a bad deal. Now all this covid malarky, the parties, the disdain, the arrogance. And there will still somehow be a large majority in this country who will vote them in no matter what they say/do. Whilst the tories have the major news outlets in their pockets and vice versa I just don’t see how any reasonable opposition leader takes them down. Whether it was Starmer or Andy Burnham or whoever else, as soon as they become a threat they then become a front page headline, which is all the Tory voters need to see to make their mind up. And with the way it seems to be going with the Saville claim, it’ll become more apparent if this is the approach that is adopted by the conservatives. The dead cat as Boris himself once quoted. 
 

There’s never going to be a perfect PM, they’ll all have their flaws whether that’s for personal or political reasons, but fuck me can we just at least have someone who’s honest and understands the average UK person. And by that I mean not these Eton toffs who can get away with illegal procurement and tender processes for their best mates, or forcing people to choose between a warm house or a warm meal. Things have to change eventually.

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3 hours ago, Ozanne said:

Labour clear in the polls, a government in disarray and if an election was called now then Labour would win; cue Unite…

Interesting view from someone who claims to be left wing...

Do you not think bin men should get paid more or have a right to strike and have support of a union?

Maybe it’s you who is the closet tory here..

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32 minutes ago, StevieGed said:

It’s because they know that lying their way through things works for them. All started at the referendum. £350m for the NHS. Sovereignty. Control the borders. Improved trade. Oven ready deal. No deal is a bad deal. Now all this covid malarky, the parties, the disdain, the arrogance. And there will still somehow be a large majority in this country who will vote them in no matter what they say/do. Whilst the tories have the major news outlets in their pockets and vice versa I just don’t see how any reasonable opposition leader takes them down. Whether it was Starmer or Andy Burnham or whoever else, as soon as they become a threat they then become a front page headline, which is all the Tory voters need to see to make their mind up. And with the way it seems to be going with the Saville claim, it’ll become more apparent if this is the approach that is adopted by the conservatives. The dead cat as Boris himself once quoted. 
 

There’s never going to be a perfect PM, they’ll all have their flaws whether that’s for personal or political reasons, but fuck me can we just at least have someone who’s honest and understands the average UK person. And by that I mean not these Eton toffs who can get away with illegal procurement and tender processes for their best mates, or forcing people to choose between a warm house or a warm meal. Things have to change eventually.

You are right but I was more pointing out that the Met have these ridiculous lines because their sole aim is to exonerate Johnson. Thats why it's complete nonsense when they said they 'don't investigate past crimes', when they do but they had to give such rubbish lies because there was no other way to not look into Johnson's crimes.

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looking like starmer would rather be off with those troublesome unions, sticking up for workers rights, can't they see he's trying to turn labour into the party for the bosses of the workers?

 

next up, the 45th and final rebrand of the party under starmer:

the (owners of the companies in which) labour (works for substandard pay and conditions) party
                               

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Mouse Party Conference 2022 speech by new leader Sir Keir Squeeker:

so you see conference, aligning our manifesto policy with that of the cats and moving forward as one  - who incidentally have provided us with the nice donation of cheese for this weeks conference and we thank them for that - that is how we secure the best future for mice

*Luke Akehurst and his Progress / Mice To Win band of merry idiots - somehow less rodent-like in mouseform - squeeking wildly in the audience*

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7 hours ago, mattiloy said:

image.thumb.png.6fbddf7e3c1b092e8417c66fc37f04f8.png

 

looking like starmer would rather be off with those troublesome unions, sticking up for workers rights, can't they see he's trying to turn labour into the party for the bosses of the workers?

 

next up, the 45th and final rebrand of the party under starmer:

the (owners of the companies in which) labour (works for substandard pay and conditions) party
                               

labour needs every penny it can get!

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8 hours ago, Barry Fish said:

Van Tam is back doing his day job now.  I don't really care any more about what a limited subset of the scientific community think anymore.  Restrictions are as much about peoples feelings and politics as they are about medical issues and science.

Two years in if you still need Whitty to tell you what to think then you have probably been living in a box.  

While the majority of healthy,vaccinated people will be ‘fine’ now, I’d like to hear scientific and medical views on what this change means for the vulnerable and immunocompromised. They will have no choice but to mix with the masses as they return to work (it seems like the brave new world with changes and a more flexible attitude to working was one big lie) and try to live their lives safely etc.

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31 minutes ago, Ryan1984 said:

While the majority of healthy,vaccinated people will be ‘fine’ now, I’d like to hear scientific and medical views on what this change means for the vulnerable and immunocompromised. They will have no choice but to mix with the masses as they return to work (it seems like the brave new world with changes and a more flexible attitude to working was one big lie) and try to live their lives safely etc.

Not sure what new information they can tell you.  It's going to be like before covid where they had to go about their lives and potentially come across a virus that will cause them problems but we have vaccines and anti virals and a better understanding of what PPE people can use to protect themselves.

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