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Certain sectors are trying to portray the partygate issue as history. We should move on they state, citing what is happening now and the governments' record  on covid.

What happened matters because:

- Lies have been told. What is the next lie? When does the lying stop? Will it ever? Our elected representatives govern in our name, representing us with our consent. We deserve the truth

- The vast majority obeyed the instructions/law and didn't meet or hold parties and drink wine. We on the true front line worked very long hours, came home knackered with mask sores on our faces and fell into bed having witnessed up to five people die amongst strangers. We held their hand and later cried ourselves to sleep...... And the next morning we got up and did it all again.

- The scientists, the NHS and the volunteers saved the nation. Not the politicians 

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15 minutes ago, Lycra said:

Certain sectors are trying to portray the partygate issue as history. We should move on they state, citing what is happening now and the governments' record  on covid.

What happened matters because:

- Lies have been told. What is the next lie? When does the lying stop? Will it ever? Our elected representatives govern in our name, representing us with our consent. We deserve the truth

- The vast majority obeyed the instructions/law and didn't meet or hold parties and drink wine. We on the true front line worked very long hours, came home knackered with mask sores on our faces and fell into bed having witnessed up to five people die amongst strangers. We held their hand and later cried ourselves to sleep...... And the next morning we got up and did it all again.

- The scientists, the NHS and the volunteers saved the nation. Not the politicians 

Aren’t we also ignoring the fact that the government’s record on Covid is abysmal? Over 150k deaths, hospitals on their knees, broken laws by the law makers, slow start to booster program to name but a few of the failings. 
 

All those bosses in those sectors want our their profits back up again so they can pay themselves handsome dividends again so they want to us to all forget about this scandal and get back to spending what little spare money we do have in their businesses.

We should never forget what they have done for the reasons you mention, they need to be held to account. 

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9 hours ago, Ozanne said:

Aren’t we also ignoring the fact that the government’s record on Covid is abysmal? Over 150k deaths, hospitals on their knees, broken laws by the law makers, slow start to booster program to name but a few of the failings. 
 

All those bosses in those sectors want our their profits back up again so they can pay themselves handsome dividends again so they want to us to all forget about this scandal and get back to spending what little spare money we do have in their businesses.

We should never forget what they have done for the reasons you mention, they need to be held to account. 

Partygate isn’t any of the main stories on BBC News today. Looks like kicking the can down the road has helped Johnson get away with it once again.

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31 minutes ago, Ryan1984 said:

Partygate isn’t any of the main stories on BBC News today. Looks like kicking the can down the road has helped Johnson get away with it once again.

Quite a few of those in that newsnight Bury thing thought Johnson was shit but thought whoever was in charge it would be the same and it had become a media witch hunt. 

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36 minutes ago, Ryan1984 said:

Partygate isn’t any of the main stories on BBC News today. Looks like kicking the can down the road has helped Johnson get away with it once again.

Of course he’ll get away with it, I’ve been saying it all along that this report was designed to do just that.

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51 minutes ago, Ryan1984 said:

Partygate isn’t any of the main stories on BBC News today. Looks like kicking the can down the road has helped Johnson get away with it once again.

unless there's any more leaks to press or that magic 54 is reached then it's not really main news until Gray releases report. There is other stuff happening.

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The problem is that press keep being told different things by different people...so Gray report is this week, then it's weeks away, then it's imminent, now it's next week. So, yesterday was going to be the big day, but for whatever reason it wasn't, and that has taken some of the air out of it. I don't think we're going to hit that 54 now...maybe something will happen if tories do badly in May elections, but even then not sure now. Johnson's strategy of deny and ride it out really does work.

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5 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

The problem is that press keep being told different things by different people...so Gray report is this week, then it's weeks away, then it's imminent, now it's next week. So, yesterday was going to be the big day, but for whatever reason it wasn't, and that has taken some of the air out of it. I don't think we're going to hit that 54 now...maybe something will happen if tories do badly in May elections, but even then not sure now. Johnson's strategy of deny and ride it out really does work.

But the important thing is the memory of the electorate … Boris is known to be a Liar now and this can always be reminded closer to an election … he’s damaged goods 

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Just now, crazyfool1 said:

But the important thing is the memory of the electorate … Boris is known to be a Liar now and this can always be reminded closer to an election … he’s damaged goods 

The problem is this was known before the last election and people didn't care...

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Just now, Barry Fish said:

The problem is this was known before the last election and people didn't care...

Yeah of course … i just feel this runs a little deeper with the sacrifices everyone  made and an effective opposition can hammer this home in any election campaign … some of the heat will have gone out but there will still be smouldering anger … interesting to see if the polls start changing or have changed 

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1 minute ago, crazyfool1 said:

Yeah of course … i just feel this runs a little deeper with the sacrifices everyone  made and an effective opposition can hammer this home in any election campaign … some of the heat will have gone out but there will still be smouldering anger … interesting to see if the polls start changing or have changed 

Yeah...  but it is a well used strategy to draw it out as long as possible and then people get bored and do actually just want to move on...

I do think it would be a risky idea for the Tories to go into another election with Boris...  but on the other hand Keir isn't going to cut through and this will be history by the time of the next election...  

I am starting to think he can ride this out.

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Just now, Barry Fish said:

I do think it would be a risky idea for the Tories to go into another election with Boris...  but on the other hand Keir isn't going to cut through and this will be history by the time of the next election... 

Starmer could 'do a Biden' and win by virtue of the fact he's not the worst option to vote for.

Boris's days of bumbling and blustering his way through awkward situations with a shit eating grin and a little turn of phrase are well over now. He's a liability and their best chance of winning is with him gone. So I hope he stays.

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