Ozanne Posted January 26 Report Share Posted January 26 Yet another lie by the PM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted January 26 Report Share Posted January 26 (edited) Newsnight's Nick Watt saying report going to be bad for civil service working in downing st...and not too great for Bojo either (but will be up to MPs to determine if bad enough for him to be kicked out). Edited January 26 by steviewevie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lycra Posted January 26 Report Share Posted January 26 (edited) Certain sectors are trying to portray the partygate issue as history. We should move on they state, citing what is happening now and the governments' record on covid. What happened matters because: - Lies have been told. What is the next lie? When does the lying stop? Will it ever? Our elected representatives govern in our name, representing us with our consent. We deserve the truth - The vast majority obeyed the instructions/law and didn't meet or hold parties and drink wine. We on the true front line worked very long hours, came home knackered with mask sores on our faces and fell into bed having witnessed up to five people die amongst strangers. We held their hand and later cried ourselves to sleep...... And the next morning we got up and did it all again. - The scientists, the NHS and the volunteers saved the nation. Not the politicians Edited January 26 by Lycra 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozanne Posted January 26 Report Share Posted January 26 15 minutes ago, Lycra said: Certain sectors are trying to portray the partygate issue as history. We should move on they state, citing what is happening now and the governments' record on covid. What happened matters because: - Lies have been told. What is the next lie? When does the lying stop? Will it ever? Our elected representatives govern in our name, representing us with our consent. We deserve the truth - The vast majority obeyed the instructions/law and didn't meet or hold parties and drink wine. We on the true front line worked very long hours, came home knackered with mask sores on our faces and fell into bed having witnessed up to five people die amongst strangers. We held their hand and later cried ourselves to sleep...... And the next morning we got up and did it all again. - The scientists, the NHS and the volunteers saved the nation. Not the politicians Aren’t we also ignoring the fact that the government’s record on Covid is abysmal? Over 150k deaths, hospitals on their knees, broken laws by the law makers, slow start to booster program to name but a few of the failings. All those bosses in those sectors want our their profits back up again so they can pay themselves handsome dividends again so they want to us to all forget about this scandal and get back to spending what little spare money we do have in their businesses. We should never forget what they have done for the reasons you mention, they need to be held to account. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justiceforcedave Posted January 26 Report Share Posted January 26 1 hour ago, steviewevie said: Newsnight's Nick Watt saying report going to be bad for civil service working in downing st...and not too great for Bojo either (but will be up to MPs to determine if bad enough for him to be kicked out). Another nothing report. Give us the goodies! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted January 27 Report Share Posted January 27 Bury! pts 2+4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozanne Posted January 27 Report Share Posted January 27 What a shock. This has cover up written all over it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squirrelarmy Posted January 27 Report Share Posted January 27 9 minutes ago, Ozanne said: What a shock. This has cover up written all over it. He’s probably run out of black permanent marker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan1984 Posted January 27 Report Share Posted January 27 9 hours ago, Ozanne said: Aren’t we also ignoring the fact that the government’s record on Covid is abysmal? Over 150k deaths, hospitals on their knees, broken laws by the law makers, slow start to booster program to name but a few of the failings. All those bosses in those sectors want our their profits back up again so they can pay themselves handsome dividends again so they want to us to all forget about this scandal and get back to spending what little spare money we do have in their businesses. We should never forget what they have done for the reasons you mention, they need to be held to account. Partygate isn’t any of the main stories on BBC News today. Looks like kicking the can down the road has helped Johnson get away with it once again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted January 27 Report Share Posted January 27 31 minutes ago, Ryan1984 said: Partygate isn’t any of the main stories on BBC News today. Looks like kicking the can down the road has helped Johnson get away with it once again. Quite a few of those in that newsnight Bury thing thought Johnson was shit but thought whoever was in charge it would be the same and it had become a media witch hunt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozanne Posted January 27 Report Share Posted January 27 36 minutes ago, Ryan1984 said: Partygate isn’t any of the main stories on BBC News today. Looks like kicking the can down the road has helped Johnson get away with it once again. Of course he’ll get away with it, I’ve been saying it all along that this report was designed to do just that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted January 27 Report Share Posted January 27 10 hours ago, Ozanne said: Yet another lie by the PM. no, two lies, the same lie, twice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted January 27 Report Share Posted January 27 its a good job we have govt by carrie, otherwise the country might go to shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted January 27 Report Share Posted January 27 51 minutes ago, Ryan1984 said: Partygate isn’t any of the main stories on BBC News today. Looks like kicking the can down the road has helped Johnson get away with it once again. unless there's any more leaks to press or that magic 54 is reached then it's not really main news until Gray releases report. There is other stuff happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyfool1 Posted January 27 Report Share Posted January 27 I’m not sure a cover up is going to help them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted January 27 Report Share Posted January 27 (edited) The problem is that press keep being told different things by different people...so Gray report is this week, then it's weeks away, then it's imminent, now it's next week. So, yesterday was going to be the big day, but for whatever reason it wasn't, and that has taken some of the air out of it. I don't think we're going to hit that 54 now...maybe something will happen if tories do badly in May elections, but even then not sure now. Johnson's strategy of deny and ride it out really does work. Edited January 27 by steviewevie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatyeti24 Posted January 27 Report Share Posted January 27 This story may have faded from this morning's headlines, but we're surely not too far from the next scandal. I have no insider knowledge, but that's the way things are with our prime minister. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Fish Posted January 27 Report Share Posted January 27 Happy Freedom Day 2.0 everyone 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyfool1 Posted January 27 Report Share Posted January 27 5 minutes ago, steviewevie said: The problem is that press keep being told different things by different people...so Gray report is this week, then it's weeks away, then it's imminent, now it's next week. So, yesterday was going to be the big day, but for whatever reason it wasn't, and that has taken some of the air out of it. I don't think we're going to hit that 54 now...maybe something will happen if tories do badly in May elections, but even then not sure now. Johnson's strategy of deny and ride it out really does work. But the important thing is the memory of the electorate … Boris is known to be a Liar now and this can always be reminded closer to an election … he’s damaged goods Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Fish Posted January 27 Report Share Posted January 27 Just now, crazyfool1 said: But the important thing is the memory of the electorate … Boris is known to be a Liar now and this can always be reminded closer to an election … he’s damaged goods The problem is this was known before the last election and people didn't care... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyfool1 Posted January 27 Report Share Posted January 27 Just now, Barry Fish said: The problem is this was known before the last election and people didn't care... Yeah of course … i just feel this runs a little deeper with the sacrifices everyone made and an effective opposition can hammer this home in any election campaign … some of the heat will have gone out but there will still be smouldering anger … interesting to see if the polls start changing or have changed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalifire Posted January 27 Report Share Posted January 27 Surely this is just to give Boris time to try and bribe MPs who might not support him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozanne Posted January 27 Report Share Posted January 27 https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/jan/26/tory-mps-poised-to-send-letters-of-no-confidence-in-pm-after-partygate-report?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other The Guardian reporting that Tories will send letters no confidence in after the Gray report. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Fish Posted January 27 Report Share Posted January 27 1 minute ago, crazyfool1 said: Yeah of course … i just feel this runs a little deeper with the sacrifices everyone made and an effective opposition can hammer this home in any election campaign … some of the heat will have gone out but there will still be smouldering anger … interesting to see if the polls start changing or have changed Yeah... but it is a well used strategy to draw it out as long as possible and then people get bored and do actually just want to move on... I do think it would be a risky idea for the Tories to go into another election with Boris... but on the other hand Keir isn't going to cut through and this will be history by the time of the next election... I am starting to think he can ride this out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalifire Posted January 27 Report Share Posted January 27 Just now, Barry Fish said: I do think it would be a risky idea for the Tories to go into another election with Boris... but on the other hand Keir isn't going to cut through and this will be history by the time of the next election... Starmer could 'do a Biden' and win by virtue of the fact he's not the worst option to vote for. Boris's days of bumbling and blustering his way through awkward situations with a shit eating grin and a little turn of phrase are well over now. He's a liability and their best chance of winning is with him gone. So I hope he stays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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