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[MEGABOWL]

The longer he stays the better, he’s poison for them now.

 

Only question is when they’ll ditch him. They all knew he was a bullshitter and a fraud and hitched their wagon to his Brexit train, so their hands are dirty as well, but they all supported the Poll Tax in public 32 years ago and had no qualms about ditching Thatcher.

[Hugh Jass]

4 minutes ago, MEGABOWL said:

The longer he stays the better, he’s poison for them now.

 

Only question is when they’ll ditch him. They all knew he was a bullshitter and a fraud and hitched their wagon to his Brexit train, so their hands are dirty as well, but they all supported the Poll Tax in public 32 years ago and had no qualms about ditching Thatcher.

They'll wait until he has absorbed every last ounce of shit still to come. There's no point bringing anyone new in until it's all gone so that they're not tarred with that brush.

Give it six months and there'll be a new leader with a "look we've changed!" message.

[Ozanne]

33 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

 

He hasn’t apologised though. 

[steviewevie]

6 minutes ago, MEGABOWL said:

The longer he stays the better, he’s poison for them now.

 

Only question is when they’ll ditch him. They all knew he was a bullshitter and a fraud and hitched their wagon to his Brexit train, so their hands are dirty as well, but they all supported the Poll Tax in public 32 years ago and had no qualms about ditching Thatcher.

after local election carnage in May.

[Neil]

5 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

after local election carnage in May.

alternatively, sucess for Starmer.

[chazwwe]

[Justiceforcedave]

11 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

He hasn’t apologised though. 

He has apologised, just not for the thing which people think he should apologise for.

[fatyeti24]

Leave him alone, guys.  He's doing his best.

Actually, don't leave him alone.  But this is his best.

[steviewevie]

...and final tweet in thread...

 

[Justiceforcedave]

😂😂😂😂😂

[Ayrshire Chris]

Breathtaking arrogance of Johnson and the Tories to only apologise when they get caught. Civil servants and politicians have known for months these parties were held but said nothing. Suddenly it’s all apologies when the shit hits the fan. 

[ian the worm]

I’m enjoying the daily drip drip drip.

Plays out well when each day there is more. 

The longer the better as the more damage gets done and general public who would normally say “they’re all the same” start to finally wake up and change their tune.

 

[Ozanne]

4 minutes ago, Ayrshire Chris said:

Breathtaking arrogance of Johnson and the Tories to only apologise when they get caught. Civil servants and politicians have known for months these parties were held but said nothing. Suddenly it’s all apologies when the shit hits the fan. 

It’s not really an apology though, it’s ‘sorry if you are upset’ etc etc 

[JoeyT]

G'wan Keir. It's you we want to be hearing from. R4 as far as Labour are concerned ran with Rayner's reaction this morning, in my mind that sort of thing Keir needs to step up on. Get his boot in first...!

 

[Ayrshire Chris]

31 minutes ago, ian the worm said:

I’m enjoying the daily drip drip drip.

Plays out well when each day there is more. 

The longer the better as the more damage gets done and general public who would normally say “they’re all the same” start to finally wake up and change their tune.

 

I have a mental image of Cummings sitting at his PC like Mr Burns from the Simpsons eating a pot noodle and deciding what next to leak to the press

Edited January 14, 2022 by Ayrshire Chris

[Crazyfool01]

just needs one minister to call it out and things will start to topple ... Its just getting that first one ... 

[Crazyfool01]

1 minute ago, Barry Fish said:

Well Liz has full confidence in him 🙂

full Trusst ? 

[Ozanne]

For a Party that regularly bangs on about the Queen they sure have treated her abysmally. It’s almost like that is complete show. 

[Leyrulion]

5 hours ago, Ozanne said:

So I was right - she’s a stooge for Johnson and the inquiry is a massive waste of time designed to get Johnson off the hook.

If this report is correct she should resign and cite Johnson breaking the ministerial code. 

That's not how any of this works. 

You're right about the first point about it trying to deflect, doesn't mean she should resign and doesn't mean she doesn't have integrity if she doesn't. Been asked to do a job, does it. 

[Ozanne]

4 minutes ago, Leyrulion said:

That's not how any of this works. 

You're right about the first point about it trying to deflect, doesn't mean she should resign and doesn't mean she doesn't have integrity if she doesn't. Been asked to do a job, does it. 

She’s a public servant and if under the course of an investigation she finds evidence of the PM breaking rules and code then she should raise it. If not then she really isn’t fit for the role and should resign. For something this serious she should act.

She’s basically the same as Lord Geidt in that instance. 

[steviewevie]

4 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

She’s a public servant and if under the course of an investigation she finds evidence of the PM breaking rules and code then she should raise it. If not then she really isn’t fit for the role and should resign. For something this serious she should act.

She’s basically the same as Lord Geidt in that instance. 

she'll present the facts....and the facts might not be that bad for Johnson.

[Ozanne]

Just now, steviewevie said:

she'll present the facts....and the facts might not be that bad for Johnson.

She present select facts and omit certain others to ensure Johnson is let off. That’s all this inquiry was designed to do. 

[steviewevie]

Tories are looking a bit fucked at moment. They've got a very damaged leader who they don't know whether to ditch or not because they're not sure the main alternatives could do any better in an election...meanwhile both labour and starmer are looking more and more competent and confident.

Still a long time till next election though.

Edited January 14, 2022 by steviewevie

[steviewevie]

2 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

She present select facts and omit certain others to ensure Johnson is let off. That’s all this inquiry was designed to do. 

I mean we don't know what she's going to do yet...

[Ryan1984]

29 minutes ago, crazyfool1 said:

just needs one minister to call it out and things will start to topple ... Its just getting that first one ... 

And it needs to be a major name, doesn’t it? Who though?