steviewevie Posted October 15, 2021 Report Share Posted October 15, 2021 So much hate out there for politicians, but all this guy was doing was talking to his constituents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fraybentos1 Posted October 15, 2021 Report Share Posted October 15, 2021 Utterly horrific. This plus Jo Cox I wonder if surgeries will be changed to remote from now on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Fish Posted October 15, 2021 Report Share Posted October 15, 2021 (edited) 22 minutes ago, the wonderwhy said: Here you go Wow - if I was her - I would be hiding under a rock right now.... You escalate our politics to the level of calling people scum and this is where it leads. Not saying there is a direct connection but that level of hatred in democracy is no good. Edited October 15, 2021 by Barry Fish 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fraybentos1 Posted October 15, 2021 Report Share Posted October 15, 2021 1 hour ago, mcshed said: Constructive point. Have you ever done any canvassing for the Labour Party? Actually speaking to voters and listening to what they say? Of course he doesn't. He's more a Starmer fan boy than a Labour supporter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Fish Posted October 15, 2021 Report Share Posted October 15, 2021 Truly awful 😞 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted October 15, 2021 Report Share Posted October 15, 2021 I guess MPs are going to need armed guards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo Music Girl Posted October 15, 2021 Report Share Posted October 15, 2021 Man fuck this country seriously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Fish Posted October 15, 2021 Report Share Posted October 15, 2021 Lots of blind eyed red flag waving supporters pointing out that Rayners words probably didn't directly result in this (probably true). We can't ignore though we have a deeply divided political system where a wannabe future PM of the country openly calls the sitting one Scum - plus add into the mix the toxic mess of Brexit / Independence and then Covid and all the divisions that has brought. The idea that atmosphere plays no part in what happened today will be shocking if not true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozanne Posted October 15, 2021 Report Share Posted October 15, 2021 What horrible news 😔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maelzoid Posted October 15, 2021 Report Share Posted October 15, 2021 Obviously horrible news. But I think pointing the finger at Rayner is not only unfair to her, but also serves to help silence critics of the Tories. Don't forget that over the years, BJ's words have been far worse in terms of racism, homophobia etc. and have certainly been as divisive as anything any other politician is responsible for. If an atmosphere of division contributed to this horrible event (and we don't know that it did) then a great number of people, politicians and otherwise, left-and right-leaning, have helped us get there. I think singling out any individual for that is disingenuous. 6 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattiloy Posted October 15, 2021 Report Share Posted October 15, 2021 My moneys on a domestic dispute, love rival or something. Or a mad man. If it does have something to do with politics, just based on his own politics, i’d say it’d more likely be some centrist FBPE loon than a Corbynite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Fish Posted October 15, 2021 Report Share Posted October 15, 2021 Really annoying when loads of people set up camp in front of the main stage flying their red flags. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaledonianGonzo Posted October 15, 2021 Report Share Posted October 15, 2021 1 minute ago, Barry Fish said: Really annoying when loads of people set up camp in front of the main stage flying their red flags. You were the first one to point a finger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Fish Posted October 15, 2021 Report Share Posted October 15, 2021 Just now, CaledonianGonzo said: You were the first one to point a finger. Yes I was... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted October 15, 2021 Report Share Posted October 15, 2021 We don't know the reason, but there's no doubt there is a lot of nasty hate and division out there, amplified by social media, and all political leaders no matter their stripes should be careful of the language they use, and that includes calling tories scum. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted October 15, 2021 Report Share Posted October 15, 2021 Apparently investigation being led by counter terrorism, and bloke arrested was from abroad...so maybe nothing to do with left/right/centrist... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Fish Posted October 15, 2021 Report Share Posted October 15, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, steviewevie said: Apparently investigation being led by counter terrorism, and bloke arrested was from abroad...so maybe nothing to do with left/right/centrist... They did the same with the guy that killed Cox didn't they ? Shouted "Britain First" and then said it had nothing to do with Brexit etc... He was a British National apparently but from Somalia Edited October 15, 2021 by Barry Fish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzzy Afro Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 Islamic terrorist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eFestivals Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 24 minutes ago, Fuzzy Afro said: Islamic terrorist. amazing how the tory mp was the nicest kindest most peaceful bloke, while being a tory mp, voting against food for kids, and voting for warring, etc, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Fish Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 12 minutes ago, eFestivals said: amazing how the tory mp was the nicest kindest most peaceful bloke, while being a tory mp, voting against food for kids, and voting for warring, etc, Pretty sure this a what Rayner wanted to tweet yesterday 🤔 lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 28 minutes ago, eFestivals said: amazing how the tory mp was the nicest kindest most peaceful bloke, while being a tory mp, voting against food for kids, and voting for warring, etc, People are being respectful for someone who's just been murdered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maelzoid Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 Still calls for Rayner to apologise. Yet, in light of it looking like Islamist terrorism, nobody is asking Boris to apologise for his anti-Islamic words. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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maelzoid Posted October 17, 2021 Report Share Posted October 17, 2021 1 hour ago, steviewevie said: I am very curious to find out which human rights he would like to overhaul and why. Using 'Strasbourg' as a reference to the ECHR is the same kind of xenophobia that equates 'Brussels' with the EU parliament and spreads the misapprehension that we are being governed by foreigners. It's a cheap, dishonest move. And it will likely work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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