crazyfool1 Posted September 20, 2021 Report Share Posted September 20, 2021 28 minutes ago, steviewevie said: could be a rough winter...could do for the tories what the winter of discontent did for labour in the 70s...fingers crossed eh kids. Surely a winter of discount Tents is a good thing ? 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted September 20, 2021 Report Share Posted September 20, 2021 1 minute ago, crazyfool1 said: Surely a winter of discount Tents is a good thing ? 😂 good grief. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattiloy Posted September 20, 2021 Report Share Posted September 20, 2021 47 minutes ago, Ozanne said: One part of this image was shared earlier but it gives a good comparison between there UK and the rest of the continent. I don't know if Ireland has been deliberately excluded here as it also has a very high electricity price at the mo. Because its energy supply is based chiefly on oil and gas. Italy too gets most of its power from oil and gas. This + the fact that there is in excess of 100% difference in prices within the EU supports the fact that it is very much the extent to which a country derives its energy supply from oil and gas, and not whether or not it has membership in the EU, which determines the price of electricity within that country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted September 20, 2021 Report Share Posted September 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, mattiloy said: I don't know if Ireland has been deliberately excluded here as it also has a very high electricity price at the mo. Because its energy supply is based chiefly on oil and gas. Italy too gets most of its power from oil and gas. This + the fact that there is in excess of 100% difference in prices within the EU supports the fact that it is very much the extent to which a country derives its energy supply from oil and gas, and not whether or not it has membership in the EU, which determines the price of electricity within that country. look, it's because of brexit, ok? Same with the pandemic. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattiloy Posted September 20, 2021 Report Share Posted September 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, steviewevie said: look, it's because of brexit, ok? Same with the pandemic. yeah yeah, and the taliban, and the rain, and mondays! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guypjfreak Posted September 20, 2021 Report Share Posted September 20, 2021 Mad about the volcano Init.. I've a friend 2 lslands away says it's all abit strange.. No injuries tho thankfully.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted September 20, 2021 Report Share Posted September 20, 2021 1 hour ago, crazyfool1 said: Surely a winter of discount Tents is a good thing ? 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zacko Posted September 20, 2021 Report Share Posted September 20, 2021 1 hour ago, steviewevie said: could be a rough winter...could do for the tories what the winter of discontent did for labour in the 70s...fingers crossed eh kids. CON +10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcshed Posted September 21, 2021 Report Share Posted September 21, 2021 9 hours ago, mattiloy said: But whatever, what should be a decent argument for divestment in fossil fuels Excepting the fact that those EU countries with lower energy prices tend to use way more coal than we do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattiloy Posted September 21, 2021 Report Share Posted September 21, 2021 43 minutes ago, mcshed said: Excepting the fact that those EU countries with lower energy prices tend to use way more coal than we do. True for many but some smaller nations manage mainly on renewables. The UK being an island on the edge of the atlantic should be able to achieve the scale to follow suit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan1984 Posted September 21, 2021 Report Share Posted September 21, 2021 Kwasi Kwarteng being interviewed on the news about the energy crisis. Rude, clueless and no plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted September 21, 2021 Report Share Posted September 21, 2021 Apparently it's the wind's fault Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted September 21, 2021 Report Share Posted September 21, 2021 Surprised there's been no comment on rumours that labour are going to try and go back to electoral college vote thing for electing the leader, not the one member one vote thing. Kicked up a bit of a stink. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted September 21, 2021 Report Share Posted September 21, 2021 Trudeau won 3rd term, minority govt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcshed Posted September 21, 2021 Report Share Posted September 21, 2021 19 minutes ago, mattiloy said: True for many but some smaller nations manage mainly on renewables. The UK being an island on the edge of the atlantic should be able to achieve the scale to follow suit. Obviously we should be pushing renewables for apocalypse avoiding purposes but if we really wanted price stability then coal or nuclear would be the way forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted September 21, 2021 Report Share Posted September 21, 2021 This explains why UK hit more than other parts of europe, more reliant on natural gas basically, and leaving IEM hasn't helped, but also a few other issues have helped to exacerbate the problem. https://news.sky.com/story/energy-crisis-uks-particularly-difficult-circumstances-mean-its-suffering-worse-than-european-neighbours-12413057 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squirrelarmy Posted September 21, 2021 Report Share Posted September 21, 2021 Can’t we harness the power of hot air spouted by politicians? There’s enough wasted heat coming from them to power a small town. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattiloy Posted September 21, 2021 Report Share Posted September 21, 2021 1 hour ago, mcshed said: Obviously we should be pushing renewables for apocalypse avoiding purposes but if we really wanted price stability then coal or nuclear would be the way forward. Well price stability would be achieved with more diversity generally. All power is subject to potential supply side issues. Nuclear is the most steady but even that has risks: Uranium isn’t mined in the UK, maybe not even europe? So you’re at the whim of geopolitics, plus its so centralised that if your one or two plants go down because of some issue or other, you’re fucked whilst if its flat calm around the windfarms of the dogger bank, it might be blowing a gale in the irish sea. In addition, the long run trend of renewable power is always going to be downwards, and towards more stability, as technologies improve - the same can’t be said for energy that depends on a finite resource. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyfool1 Posted September 21, 2021 Report Share Posted September 21, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, steviewevie said: Apparently it's the wind's fault I’m sure we could generate lots of power with the hot air they produce edit just read @squirrelarmy post above Edited September 21, 2021 by crazyfool1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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steviewevie Posted September 21, 2021 Report Share Posted September 21, 2021 This is going to create a big hoo-ha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted September 21, 2021 Report Share Posted September 21, 2021 It's ok guys, we're not going to run out of CO2...so we can still continue the slaughter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattiloy Posted September 21, 2021 Report Share Posted September 21, 2021 2 hours ago, steviewevie said: This is going to create a big hoo-ha Join labour today - for social democracy without any of the bothersome socialism or democracy! Always thought Starmer was just an idiot. Increasingly starting to think he’s actually a malevolent force, auld trilateral Keith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted September 21, 2021 Report Share Posted September 21, 2021 4 minutes ago, mattiloy said: Join labour today - for social democracy without any of the bothersome socialism or democracy! Always thought Starmer was just an idiot. Increasingly starting to think he’s actually a malevolent force, auld trilateral Keith representative democracy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattiloy Posted September 21, 2021 Report Share Posted September 21, 2021 6 minutes ago, steviewevie said: representative democracy. representative of what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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