Ozanne Posted September 10, 2021 Report Share Posted September 10, 2021 35 minutes ago, steviewevie said: Blimey. I guess what main stream press say does matter, they were mostly all critical, right? Pretty much. It was a political gamble by Johnson which so far appears to be backfiring, and this also looks like voters aren’t happy with the triple lock being broken either. We also have UC being cut as well, it could be a very difficult few weeks for him now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan1984 Posted September 10, 2021 Report Share Posted September 10, 2021 22 minutes ago, Ozanne said: Pretty much. It was a political gamble by Johnson which so far appears to be backfiring, and this also looks like voters aren’t happy with the triple lock being broken either. We also have UC being cut as well, it could be a very difficult few weeks for him now. He’s not adverse to a u-turn though, is he? 😆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted September 10, 2021 Report Share Posted September 10, 2021 10 minutes ago, Ryan1984 said: He’s not adverse to a u-turn though, is he? 😆 Yeah, rishi could suddenly find some extra cash before the oct budget meaning no need for a tax rise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ryan1984 Posted September 10, 2021 Report Share Posted September 10, 2021 1 hour ago, steviewevie said: Yeah, rishi could suddenly find some extra cash before the oct budget meaning no need for a tax rise. They’ll spin it like when they decided not to starve kids - “we listened to you” and all that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squirrelarmy Posted September 10, 2021 Report Share Posted September 10, 2021 2 hours ago, steviewevie said: Yeah, rishi could suddenly find some extra cash before the oct budget meaning no need for a tax rise. He could start by paying some more tax on his personal wealth. He would probably sort out the budget by himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maelzoid Posted September 10, 2021 Report Share Posted September 10, 2021 I think one of the reasons that people don't seem to oppose the NI rise is they don't understand how it will affect them. Someone - either Labour, or a sympathetic paper - needs to spell out the impact in a way that people understand. For example, the 1.25% increase looks like this: And next April when people see their wage packets decrease, they'll know for sure. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted September 10, 2021 Report Share Posted September 10, 2021 26 minutes ago, maelzoid said: I think one of the reasons that people don't seem to oppose the NI rise is they don't understand how it will affect them. Someone - either Labour, or a sympathetic paper - needs to spell out the impact in a way that people understand. For example, the 1.25% increase looks like this: And next April when people see their wage packets decrease, they'll know for sure. err...have you seen the polls? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted September 10, 2021 Report Share Posted September 10, 2021 12 hours ago, steviewevie said: 🙃 just realised that this poll is dated 3rd Sept...so err...hmmm.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozanne Posted September 10, 2021 Report Share Posted September 10, 2021 1 hour ago, steviewevie said: just realised that this poll is dated 3rd Sept...so err...hmmm.... That’s changes against the 3rd Sept poll, so this one will include the news this week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted September 10, 2021 Report Share Posted September 10, 2021 2 hours ago, Ozanne said: That’s changes against the 3rd Sept poll, so this one will include the news this week. Ah. Silly me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ozanne Posted September 11, 2021 Report Share Posted September 11, 2021 Another one showing Labour gains. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted September 11, 2021 Report Share Posted September 11, 2021 23 minutes ago, Ozanne said: Another one showing Labour gains. Obviously starmer is a brilliantly effective leader. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozanne Posted September 13, 2021 Report Share Posted September 13, 2021 A clear trend now with several polls showing a narrowing after the government announcements from last week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squirrelarmy Posted September 13, 2021 Report Share Posted September 13, 2021 Two things are going to happen now. Either massive U-Turns on everything or a massive distraction story will take over the news headlines for the next week or so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozanne Posted September 13, 2021 Report Share Posted September 13, 2021 We have the COVID briefing tomorrow which could be used as a distraction. However the cut to UC will be a massive story and impact quite a few people as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted September 13, 2021 Report Share Posted September 13, 2021 40 minutes ago, squirrelarmy said: Two things are going to happen now. Either massive U-Turns on everything or a massive distraction story will take over the news headlines for the next week or so I can definitely see a u-turn happening on the universal credit thing, but we shall see. Maybe it's good to get all the bad stuff out of the way now, still a few years away from an election. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingerfish79 Posted September 13, 2021 Report Share Posted September 13, 2021 https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/sep/13/keir-starmer-jeremy-corbyn-suspension?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other makes for interesting/concerning reading Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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steviewevie Posted September 13, 2021 Report Share Posted September 13, 2021 41 minutes ago, Gingerfish79 said: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/sep/13/keir-starmer-jeremy-corbyn-suspension?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other makes for interesting/concerning reading By Len McCluskey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squirrelarmy Posted September 13, 2021 Report Share Posted September 13, 2021 44 minutes ago, Gingerfish79 said: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/sep/13/keir-starmer-jeremy-corbyn-suspension?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other makes for interesting/concerning reading Interesting timing. Why has this story been brought up again now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattiloy Posted September 13, 2021 Report Share Posted September 13, 2021 20 minutes ago, squirrelarmy said: Interesting timing. Why has this story been brought up again now. Lens got a book out. That Starmer is a slithery 🐍 is not news though, this was known to be the case at the time. Bit of extra lighter fluid to keep things ticking over until conference anyway. Unless they vet the audience, I reckon the fat controller will get booed off during his speech. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waterfalls21234 Posted September 13, 2021 Report Share Posted September 13, 2021 Not posted for a long time, obviously glasto is still far in the future and god knows if itll even be `allowed` to take place giving the current assholes in charge, however I do have to say seeing as I got so so so much shit for it at the time of the last election..... hey @eFestivals hows that `moderate` labour leadership working out for you? sunk without a trace thanks to no fire, no passion, no drive and very much on the fence and uninspiring in everything. stamer IS mr grey and labour will never go anywhere with this kind of attitude, just as we really need a firebrand opposition to hold the govt to account as well....shame that. Proud to say I was right 😛 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topmarksbri Posted September 13, 2021 Report Share Posted September 13, 2021 1 hour ago, Gingerfish79 said: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/sep/13/keir-starmer-jeremy-corbyn-suspension?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other makes for interesting/concerning reading Red Len is a crook with an axe to grind, he's also gone on record as saying that he hasn't spoken to Starmer as relationship has broken down - so which is it? 27 minutes ago, waterfalls21234 said: Not posted for a long time, obviously glasto is still far in the future and god knows if itll even be `allowed` to take place giving the current assholes in charge, however I do have to say seeing as I got so so so much shit for it at the time of the last election..... hey @eFestivals hows that `moderate` labour leadership working out for you? sunk without a trace thanks to no fire, no passion, no drive and very much on the fence and uninspiring in everything. stamer IS mr grey and labour will never go anywhere with this kind of attitude, just as we really need a firebrand opposition to hold the govt to account as well....shame that. Proud to say I was right 😛 Kind of weird time to post this when Labour are polling better than they have in ages... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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