news & politics:discussion

[steviewevie]

it's a good move, puts the onus onto Truss/Sunak, shuts up people saying labour don't have any policies, but I expect won't shut up those demanding something more radical like nationalisation.

[steviewevie]

 

[Ozanne]

The director of the IFS hasn’t suggested that Labour are wrong when they say their plan will reduce inflation. 

[lost]

The majority of gilts are issued over a longer term. Its quite difficult to work out with the BOE QE sales back into the market at the same time.

Edited August 15, 2022 by lost

[Ozanne]

People will be paying much more for their energy bills under the Tories than if Labour were in power. It’s that simple.

[steviewevie]

24 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

People will be paying much more for their energy bills under the Tories than if Labour were in power. It’s that simple.

unless Truss does something similar...

[Ozanne]

Just now, steviewevie said:

unless Truss does something similar...

She probably will and Labour should capitalise on that. 

[lost]

if your giving a handout the states costs are fixed. If you are fixing the price then the cost to the state is really unlimited, I can't see Truss doing the later. All theoretical though as mentioned, Labour wont be in power between October and March.

[steviewevie]

10 minutes ago, lost said:

if your giving a handout the states costs are fixed. If you are fixing the price then the cost to the state is really unlimited, I can't see Truss doing the later. All theoretical though as mentioned, Labour wont be in power between October and March.

unless Truss calls a snap early election because she gets a bounce in the polls and she knows it might not last...

[Ozanne]

Weren’t people complaining last week Labour didn’t have any policies for the cost of living? Now they can be ignored because they won’t be in power anyway. Funny. 

[lost]

8 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

Weren’t people complaining last week Labour didn’t have any policies for the cost of living? Now they can be ignored because they won’t be in power anyway. Funny. 

Maybe they are different people?

[steviewevie]

Ok...so at moment the differences on cost of living is Truss will cut taxes and suspend green levies, Sunak will cut VAT on energy bills and probably go further with payments to poorer households, and Starmer would not increase energy prices above what they are now.

[Ozanne]

25 minutes ago, lost said:

Maybe they are different people?

Probably but it’s funny either way.

It doesn’t matter because at least now people can’t complain Labour don’t have a policy for it. They do and it’s a very good one. 

[lost]

5 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

Probably but it’s funny either way.

It doesn’t matter because at least now people can’t complain Labour don’t have a policy for it. They do and it’s a very good one. 

Well the good thing is people can now see the predicted sums involved (the equivalent of another entire covid furlough scheme over a year) and that's if prices don't go up any higher from here. So hopefully it shuts up the "simply nationalise it" or "tax the energy companies" crowd. 

Edited August 15, 2022 by lost

[steviewevie]

10 minutes ago, lost said:

Well the good thing is people can now see the predicted sums involved (the equivalent of another entire covid furlough scheme over a year) and that's if prices don't go up any higher from here. So hopefully it shuts up the "simply nationalise it" or "tax the energy companies" crowd. 

 

[Neil]

hot news, its raining here, at bloody last 😛 

[lost]

5 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

 

Thankfully the majority of the electorate are not middle class autistic university students with an unhealthy obsession with anime trans she-cats.

[Neil]

ROB'S AT IT AGAIN, THE MAD SOD @Superscally

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-62469739

[Superscally]

10 minutes ago, Neil said:

ROB'S AT IT AGAIN, THE MAD SOD @Superscally

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-62469739

🤣🤣

[steviewevie]

1 hour ago, Neil said:

hot news, its raining here, at bloody last 😛 

another intervention from Sir Keir.

[steviewevie]

20 minutes ago, Superscally said:

🤣🤣

Amazing stuff. Well done!

[Superscally]

7 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

Amazing stuff. Well done!

Ta mate!

[steviewevie]

Jessica Elgot in Guardian reckons Kwasi Kwarteng could get Chancellor under Truss, and also Coffey, Badenock, Braverman and Mordaunt could get some top jobs...so yeah...kind of right wing. Brave new world.

[zahidf]

Smart starmer

 

 

 

 

[steviewevie]

24 minutes ago, zahidf said:

Smart starmer

 

 

 

 

hardly surprising it's popular...