news & politics:discussion

[Zoo Music Girl]

18 hours ago, steviewevie said:

looking less and less likely that Sunak will be next PM...

Thank fuck for that 

[charlierc]

Some of these allegations feel like they would've been just cause for resigning under a previous government.

But yeah. Even if Sunak stays on as Chancellor, it's hard to see him shaking off the cloud of stink from this in time for the next Tory leadership contest.

[Ozanne]

I saw someone tweet the other day saying that Labour must be hoping that Johnson and Sunak stay on till the next election. 

[steviewevie]

Boris goes to Kyiv.

[steviewevie]

[steviewevie]

Maybe both UK and Ukraine could join the EU?

 

[Ozanne]

 

 Latest Opinion polling thread.

[steviewevie]

 

[steviewevie]

Nice photo op for Bojo and Zelensky yesterday...for Boris it helps him look like a proper world leader, and with Sunak out of the way now he'll likely be leading tories into next election. For Zelensky it helps to show that Ukraine are winning, at least in Kyiv...but now the fun and games start in Donbas...Russia need some sort of win by May 9th apparently, when Moscow has big Victory Day Parade...but Ukraine probably feel like they can drive Russia out completely.

[Ozanne]

 

[Neil]

Spaffer wouldn't dare walk thru London shaking hands with ordinary people. 

[steviewevie]

French elections start today, if Le Pen wins then, well...EU is possibly going to be a bit fucked...and that will embolden other far right nationalist/populist politcians in europe and elsewhere.

[charlierc]

1 hour ago, steviewevie said:

French elections start today, if Le Pen wins then, well...EU is possibly going to be a bit fucked...and that will embolden other far right nationalist/populist politcians in europe and elsewhere.

I suspect it's going to be drawn out a bit longer. France's election system means I doubt Macron, Le Pen or indeed anyone else will get over 50% today so it's likely gonna need the run-off in 2 weeks time.

Edited April 10, 2022 by charlierc

[steviewevie]

17 minutes ago, charlierc said:

I suspect it's going to be drawn out a bit longer. France's election system means I doubt Macron, Le Pen or indeed anyone else will get over 50% today so it's likely gonna need the run-off in 2 weeks time.

yeah, Macron vs Le Pen in two weeks.

[steviewevie]

 

[Hannibal Schmitt]

9 hours ago, steviewevie said:

Nice photo op for Bojo and Zelensky yesterday...for Boris it helps him look like a proper world leader, and with Sunak out of the way now he'll likely be leading tories into next election. For Zelensky it helps to show that Ukraine are winning, at least in Kyiv...but now the fun and games start in Donbas...Russia need some sort of win by May 9th apparently, when Moscow has big Victory Day Parade...but Ukraine probably feel like they can drive Russia out completely.

Our chancelor Nehammer was there the same day. Its really weird. Zelensky must have a full time-table to meet all the europen and world Leaders, besides all of this war. Nehammer will be meeting Putin tomorrow 3 pm, so i hope that it will have at least a little positive vibe for the way out of all of this mess for the future.

[Ozanne]

Zelensky is so naive, he’s brought into Johnson like everyone else without realising that Johnson accepted Russian money. 

Edited April 10, 2022 by Ozanne

[charlierc]

8 hours ago, steviewevie said:

yeah, Macron vs Le Pen in two weeks.

Looks like that's what we may end up with. Exit poll just came out, and says Macron and Le Pen as the two highest scoring candidates. Far-left anti-NATO candidate Melenchon wasn't too far away off the pair of them - all 3 got over 20% according to the note I've seen, but still EM/MLP as the two out front.

So I guess if this is all correct, and those in the know say that French polls tend to be more reliable than ours in the UK, guess we have 2 more weeks of grandstand shouting and a 2017 redux ballot.

[steviewevie]

 

[steviewevie]

29 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

Zelensky is so naive, he’s brought into Johnson like everyone else without realising that Johnson accepted Russian money. 

There's been russian money swilling round the UK economy long before Johnson.

[steviewevie]

1 hour ago, Hannibal Schmitt said:

Our chancelor Nehammer was there the same day. Its really weird. Zelensky must have a full time-table to meet all the europen and world Leaders, besides all of this war. Nehammer will be meeting Putin tomorrow 3 pm, so i hope that it will have at least a little positive vibe for the way out of all of this mess for the future.

What Zelensky needs is support from the abroad, as well as maintain support for the resistance at home...and so far on both fronts he's done amazingly well.

[steviewevie]

Pecresse has endorsed Macron.

[charlierc]

17 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

Pecresse has endorsed Macron.

So to have Hidalgo and Jadot. But I suspect both candidates will be going hard after those who voted Melenchon, which is a pretty substantial block.

[steviewevie]

Melenchon tells his voters not to vote for Le Pen, but doesn't tell them to vote for Macron.

[philipsteak]

1 hour ago, Ozanne said:

Zelensky is so naive, he’s brought into Johnson like everyone else without realising that Johnson accepted Russian money. 

I think he's smart enough to know what he's doing. He's a pragmatist.