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looking like starmer would rather be off with those troublesome unions, sticking up for workers rights, can't they see he's trying to turn labour into the party for the bosses of the workers?

 

next up, the 45th and final rebrand of the party under starmer:

the (owners of the companies in which) labour (works for substandard pay and conditions) party
                               

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Mouse Party Conference 2022 speech by new leader Sir Keir Squeeker:

so you see conference, aligning our manifesto policy with that of the cats and moving forward as one  - who incidentally have provided us with the nice donation of cheese for this weeks conference and we thank them for that - that is how we secure the best future for mice

*Luke Akehurst and his Progress / Mice To Win band of merry idiots - somehow less rodent-like in mouseform - squeeking wildly in the audience*

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7 hours ago, mattiloy said:

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looking like starmer would rather be off with those troublesome unions, sticking up for workers rights, can't they see he's trying to turn labour into the party for the bosses of the workers?

 

next up, the 45th and final rebrand of the party under starmer:

the (owners of the companies in which) labour (works for substandard pay and conditions) party
                               

labour needs every penny it can get!

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8 hours ago, Barry Fish said:

Van Tam is back doing his day job now.  I don't really care any more about what a limited subset of the scientific community think anymore.  Restrictions are as much about peoples feelings and politics as they are about medical issues and science.

Two years in if you still need Whitty to tell you what to think then you have probably been living in a box.  

While the majority of healthy,vaccinated people will be ‘fine’ now, I’d like to hear scientific and medical views on what this change means for the vulnerable and immunocompromised. They will have no choice but to mix with the masses as they return to work (it seems like the brave new world with changes and a more flexible attitude to working was one big lie) and try to live their lives safely etc.

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38 minutes ago, Ryan1984 said:

While the majority of healthy,vaccinated people will be ‘fine’ now, I’d like to hear scientific and medical views on what this change means for the vulnerable and immunocompromised. They will have no choice but to mix with the masses as they return to work (it seems like the brave new world with changes and a more flexible attitude to working was one big lie) and try to live their lives safely etc.

I expect a lot of people's behaviour will stay the same for a while longer...it's just nothing is enforced. We're not the only country lifting all restrictions. But, we wouldn't be doing this yet if Bojo wasn't in so much trouble...

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4 minutes ago, Neil said:

wtf are unite doing, trying to co-erse Labour into supporting them over a strike, its the sort of tactic to damage labour to lose the next election.

it's a tactic to try and get bin lorry drivers their wage demands from Coventry council...go to the top with threats. Starmer obviously wants to distant labour from all this, tories still use winter of discontent to batter labour...but at same time unite are biggest funder to labour and labour need the cash. Hopefully something can be sorted behind the scenes.

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12 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

it's a tactic to try and get bin lorry drivers their wage demands from Coventry council...go to the top with threats. Starmer obviously wants to distant labour from all this, tories still use winter of discontent to batter labour...but at same time unite are biggest funder to labour and labour need the cash. Hopefully something can be sorted behind the scenes.

i know why they're doing it, but its the sort of action which destroyed labour support in the late 70s and early 80s  to enable thatcher.

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1 hour ago, crazyfool1 said:

Has Boris sold her in the transfer market ? 

no, as a tory, she was always team kremlin. also see spaffers £600,000 tennis match witgh the wife of a russian minister.

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1 hour ago, Neil said:

i know why they're doing it, but its the sort of action which destroyed labour support in the late 70s and early 80s  to enable thatcher.

It may well hurt labour councillors at local elections in a few months if bins not getting emptied....and it will hurt labour big time if Unite do go ahead and cut all funding.

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12 minutes ago, crazyfool1 said:

 

Not wanting to totally derail this thread and turn it into a COVID one so feel free to reply on the darkside. 

Whilst this decision has been rushed to try and help Boris this is the direction we are going in, so even without this naked act of self preservation in a couple of months we would be in a position where there is a background amount of COVID, through vaccines and exposure there is a good deal of protection, people like yourself who are more vulnerable will still be more vulnerable. Given this will be the case for years, what do you expect in terms of Government mandated protection?

Proper sick pay seems like a no brainer as it would help contain all sorts of bugs if unwell staff just stayed home. There is a constant battle to increase cleanliness standards in hospitals and more mask wearing and better ventilation may be added to the fight against hospital acquired infections. Yearly booster vaccines for the vulnerable? I really don't know the answers but the conversation has to move on from restrictions to what is permanently acceptable.

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