steviewevie Posted March 18, 2021 Report Share Posted March 18, 2021 14 minutes ago, mattiloy said: Thinking about the last few years and the kind of underrated calamity of labour not voting for May’s brexit deal. May would have remained in power, Boris would never have been PM. Your Brexit wouldnt be half as shite. There is a decent chance that Corbyn would have beat May in a general election at some stage... yeah well, hindsight and all that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattiloy Posted March 18, 2021 Report Share Posted March 18, 2021 24 minutes ago, steviewevie said: yeah well, hindsight and all that... Indeed. But increasingly thinking that Labour will have it tough to even lay a mitten on the tories so long as teflon johnson is leader. So increasingly thinking of what might have been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eFestivals Posted March 18, 2021 Report Share Posted March 18, 2021 On 3/17/2021 at 9:27 AM, Barry Fish said: Bookies asking you to back a lame horse 🙂 That's the area of England that voted againstregional devolution so. Antsee a rehgioal party winning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted March 18, 2021 Report Share Posted March 18, 2021 24 minutes ago, mattiloy said: Indeed. But increasingly thinking that Labour will have it tough to even lay a mitten on the tories so long as teflon johnson is leader. So increasingly thinking of what might have been. I can't see how May could have survived as leader for that long if she had got her deal through using labour votes and not many tory votes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcshed Posted March 18, 2021 Report Share Posted March 18, 2021 https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/mar/17/denmark-plans-to-limit-non-western-residents-in-disadvantaged-areas This seems pretty outrageous from Denmark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eFestivals Posted March 18, 2021 Report Share Posted March 18, 2021 17 minutes ago, mcshed said: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/mar/17/denmark-plans-to-limit-non-western-residents-in-disadvantaged-areas This seems pretty outrageous from Denmark. Ghetto land. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan1984 Posted March 18, 2021 Report Share Posted March 18, 2021 3 hours ago, mattiloy said: Thinking about the last few years and the kind of underrated calamity of labour not voting for May’s brexit deal. May would have remained in power, Boris would never have been PM. Your Brexit wouldnt be half as shite. There is a decent chance that Corbyn would have beat May in a general election at some stage... I also think May’s cabinet would have dealt with the early stages of the pandemic far better (if she was to have stayed in power?) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattiloy Posted March 18, 2021 Report Share Posted March 18, 2021 18 minutes ago, Ryan1984 said: I also think May’s cabinet would have dealt with the early stages of the pandemic far better (if she was to have stayed in power?) Idk, hancock was her health sec. prior to johnson but maybe she would have at least made sure that contract tendering was by the book and would maybe have given him the sack for incompetence earlier rather than johnsons (probable) strategy of waiting until the inquiry and making him the fall guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozanne Posted March 18, 2021 Report Share Posted March 18, 2021 43 minutes ago, Ryan1984 said: I also think May’s cabinet would have dealt with the early stages of the pandemic far better (if she was to have stayed in power?) May herself would've handled things better than Johnson, she wouldn't have scoffed at the threat of the virus and said things such as 'shaking hands with COVID patients'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haan Posted March 18, 2021 Report Share Posted March 18, 2021 1 hour ago, mcshed said: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/mar/17/denmark-plans-to-limit-non-western-residents-in-disadvantaged-areas This seems pretty outrageous from Denmark. "In these neighbourhoods, misdemeanours carry double the legal penalties in place elsewhere" wtf??? that's insane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haan Posted March 18, 2021 Report Share Posted March 18, 2021 18 minutes ago, Barry Fish said: Its actually very sensible as a concept. Helps with integration and avoids concentration of denervation in certain areas. Loads of example in our own country where this has gone wrong. this is not true at all, it's a very discriminatory policy and acting like areas in the UK that are bad are bad because of immigration and not, say austerity ruining communities is very narrow minded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattiloy Posted March 18, 2021 Report Share Posted March 18, 2021 Labour will lose Hartlepool. They've parachuted some pro EU centrist southerner in for the by election post a sexual harassment scandal involving the sitting MP. Will be more interesting to see by how much they lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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steviewevie Posted March 18, 2021 Report Share Posted March 18, 2021 (edited) 56 minutes ago, mattiloy said: Labour will lose Hartlepool. They've parachuted some pro EU centrist southerner in for the by election post a sexual harassment scandal involving the sitting MP. Will be more interesting to see by how much they lose. well, they have a bit of history of voting for centrist pro-EU mps. Edited March 18, 2021 by steviewevie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted March 18, 2021 Report Share Posted March 18, 2021 Britain 'heading for new era of austerity', thinktank warns https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/mar/18/britain-heading-for-new-era-of-austerity-thinktank-warns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guypjfreak Posted March 18, 2021 Report Share Posted March 18, 2021 3 hours ago, mattiloy said: Idk, hancock was her health sec. prior to johnson but maybe she would have at least made sure that contract tendering was by the book and would maybe have given him the sack for incompetence earlier rather than johnsons (probable) strategy of waiting until the inquiry and making him the fall guy I reckon old Hancock will be next in line for Boriss job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozanne Posted March 18, 2021 Report Share Posted March 18, 2021 2 hours ago, steviewevie said: well, they have a bit of history of voting for centrist pro-EU mps. The Labour candidate is a family Dr that worked on the frontline during the pandemic so they hoping that will sway some voters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punksnotdead Posted March 18, 2021 Report Share Posted March 18, 2021 2 hours ago, steviewevie said: Britain 'heading for new era of austerity', thinktank warns https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/mar/18/britain-heading-for-new-era-of-austerity-thinktank-warns It's already happening. 1% for nurses, 0% for other public sector workers, 0% increase in most benefits. Did you expect anything else from these Eton millionaires? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattiloy Posted March 18, 2021 Report Share Posted March 18, 2021 1 hour ago, Ozanne said: The Labour candidate is a family Dr that worked on the frontline during the pandemic so they hoping that will sway some voters. Nope. There is some activity over on twitter - seems like old forensic bollocks didn't do his homework here.. over before it started Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OG Posted March 19, 2021 Report Share Posted March 19, 2021 6 hours ago, mattiloy said: Labour will lose Hartlepool. They've parachuted some pro EU centrist southerner in for the by election post a sexual harassment scandal involving the sitting MP. Will be more interesting to see by how much they lose. Is this serious? Labour have been in local power for nearly 50 years and after the shit that the conservative government have rained down on places like Hartlepool for years you expect them to switch and vote for them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OG Posted March 19, 2021 Report Share Posted March 19, 2021 3 hours ago, mattiloy said: Nope. There is some activity over on twitter - seems like old forensic bollocks didn't do his homework here.. over before it started Valid or not, the voters of Hartlepool have bigger issues to decide who to vote for other than a Labour MP tweeting about MILFS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bamber Posted March 19, 2021 Report Share Posted March 19, 2021 The Tories have committed to increasing the number of Trident Warheads by 40%. This is utter madness, even (Trident supporting) Starmer agrees. There is no reasonable argument to support this. I'm utterly fuming. It contravenes the letter and the spirit of all the non-proliferation agreements. Act Now. Join CND. https://cnduk.org/ https://www.facebook.com/CNDuk/videos/207130254532740/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcshed Posted March 19, 2021 Report Share Posted March 19, 2021 9 hours ago, Barry Fish said: Sorry but that's bull... its not discriminating to have a policy of integration. It is discriminating to say to people you can't live here you aren't white enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozanne Posted March 19, 2021 Report Share Posted March 19, 2021 4 hours ago, OG said: Valid or not, the voters of Hartlepool have bigger issues to decide who to vote for other than a Labour MP tweeting about MILFS Yeah they’ve gone for a family Dr who has been on the front line during the pandemic so it seems the Labour tactic is to go big on the NHS. Which could work, that Tweet will barely be seen by the bulk of the electorate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattiloy Posted March 19, 2021 Report Share Posted March 19, 2021 5 hours ago, OG said: Is this serious? Labour have been in local power for nearly 50 years and after the shit that the conservative government have rained down on places like Hartlepool for years you expect them to switch and vote for them Voted 70% leave, the combined brexit party and tory vote was a comfortable majority last time, labour polling at around 10 points lower than the tories, Starmers personal ratings are on the way down and they decide to stitch up the candidacy and parachute some new labour sexist douchebag in there as the candidate to replace a guy resigning as a result of an ongoing sexual harassment case in a week in which the news cycle has made public sentiment especially sensitive towards sexist douchebags. Labours goose is cooked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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