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[Zoo Music Girl]

10 minutes ago, Zoo Music Girl said:

Ah sorry! Meant to upvote this, not downvote it! How do I remove?

Will come back tomorrow to sort...

This is all very exciting. PMQs on tomorrow?

[kingbadger]

BoJo winning a VONC would be great for Labour. Presuming the next Tory leader votes in his favour, they're tied to the shitshow that has been and is to come. Hard to separate yourself from this utter crapfest that is BoJo's lockdown parties when you've then voted to support the lying, cretinous oaf.

[steviewevie]

oh...and then there's inflation.

[Justiceforcedave]

9 hours ago, steviewevie said:

We'll see...a lot of excited journalists on Twitter this evening...but 54 is still quite a high number to hit.

If anyone can do it, it's our Boris. GO BORIS!

[ian the worm]

Get VoNoCo Done. 

[Crazyfool01]

World leading VONC 

[Ryan1984]

I was expecting something on the news this morning but nothing yet. Saving it for an hour before PMQs?

[gigpusher]

8 hours ago, Zoo Music Girl said:

Ah sorry! Meant to upvote this, not downvote it! How do I remove?

Don't worry about it. I'll survive the blow to my ego (hopefully unlike Boris 😄)

[tigger123]

 

[MrHew]

1 minute ago, Barry Fish said:

Does anyone really see him losing a VONC ?   I can't see it...

I can see it being a signal to him he has to manage his own departure properly though.  He can't survive and run in the next election I don't feel.

I was thinking about this earlier. I think he's still got enough support to survive it but I think it will be the beginning of the end for him and there'll undoubtedly be a new leader by the next election.

 

[MrHew]

1 minute ago, Barry Fish said:

He will want to declare his victories - Brexit and beating covid...  and then say its now time to spend time with his 67 children...

Yup, that's how I see it panning out. He'll make it look like he's leaving on his own terms and appeal to all the populists about the great stuff he's done. And it'll probably work.

[steviewevie]

15 minutes ago, MrHew said:

I was thinking about this earlier. I think he's still got enough support to survive it but I think it will be the beginning of the end for him and there'll undoubtedly be a new leader by the next election.

 

He might hang on but then get booted out if tories do really bad in local elections in May.

[steviewevie]

Truss to get a deal with EU over NI just in time for a leadership election?

 

[Justiceforcedave]

Can someone tell me wtf a ‘Pork Pie Plot’ is?!

[TheSheriff]

13 minutes ago, Justiceforcedave said:

Can someone tell me wtf a ‘Pork Pie Plot’ is?!

One of the the supposed Tory Rebels is the MP for Melton Mowbray

Edited January 19, 2022 by TheSheriff
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[maelzoid]

I assumed it's because Boris keeps telling pork pies...

[Gingerfish79]

I do wonder whether he's hanging on as long as he can, hoping that the Russians might save him with their inevitable war with Ukraine. 

[steviewevie]

Going to be a hard few months whoever is leader, may as well let Bojo take the flak and then boot him out in the summer.

[steviewevie]

 

[steviewevie]

..of course with a different tory leader labour could see that poll lead evaporate.

[steviewevie]

 

[Justiceforcedave]

1 hour ago, maelzoid said:

I assumed it's because Boris keeps telling pork pies...

As did I. Just found it weird all of the news outlets were using it in headlines. Like it’s just assumed everyone knows what that is?

[zahidf]

 

[Neil]

i love how the tories are trying to present this as a bunch of bris haters trying to take him out. its not fo9oling anyone.

[Gingerfish79]

16 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

..of course with a different tory leader labour could see that poll lead evaporate.

Always a risk, but I don't see the 'red wall' staying blue now. I think there was a specific attraction to Johnson from these areas and once he's gone and they realise that they are poorer for the experience, the majority will be back to Labour. However, it's clear that those seats must now be classed as 'floating' and Labour will have to work hard to get and keep them. A massive focus on the Midlands and north needed from Labour now.