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56 minutes ago, Florian Saucer Attack said:

Occasionally I'll pick a genre and listen to all the main acts involved. Right now I'm doing 70's prog, previously I've only listened to king crimson and pink floyd (who I love).

I've not listened to gentle giant yet but they are on the list.

So far I've concluded two things: genesis and jethro tull are so unbearably terrible it's hard to convey with words and secondly Focus rock! They bring the fun and energy of Hocus Pocus to a lot of their songs. I was pleasantly surprised by them

Funnily enough I’m working at my local venue for the upcoming Focus gig. I love them. Gentle Giant are an eclectic taste to say the least. Try Octopus or Freehand. I’m expecting you’ll hate them!!

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31 minutes ago, Avalon_Fields said:

Funnily enough I’m working at my local venue for the upcoming Focus gig. I love them. Gentle Giant are an eclectic taste to say the least. Try Octopus or Freehand. I’m expecting you’ll hate them!!

Holland hasn't produced a lot of rock but Focus do a great job filling the gaps.

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2 hours ago, Avalon_Fields said:

True, for me. I used to not talk about old music on here as it shows my age. But now I just think fuck it I’m glad I’m old enough to have seen Led Zeppelin, The Ramones, The Clash, etc.

Yes, seen all the greats with their classic line ups, zeppelin, deep purple, stones, sabbath, yes, Tull, King Crimson etc.  Thanks to my late mum for financing most of the gigs and to the teachers that ignored me bunking off school to go and queue for tickets in Glasgow! 

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2 hours ago, Florian Saucer Attack said:

Occasionally I'll pick a genre and listen to all the main acts involved. Right now I'm doing 70's prog, previously I've only listened to king crimson and pink floyd (who I love).

I've not listened to gentle giant yet but they are on the list.

So far I've concluded two things: genesis and jethro tull are so unbearably terrible it's hard to convey with words and secondly Focus rock! They bring the fun and energy of Hocus Pocus to a lot of their songs. I was pleasantly surprised by them

Dark Side of the Moon is one of my favourite albums ever, but all prog rock that I've heard by anyone that's not Pink Floyd just sounds annoyingly self indulgent other than one random Caravan song I liked. Need to check out Focus, don't think I've ever heard them. Do you have any recommendations of prog rock bands that I might have missed that aren't totally self indulgent?

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5 minutes ago, found home in 2009 said:

Dark Side of the Moon is one of my favourite albums ever, but all prog rock that I've heard by anyone that's not Pink Floyd just sounds annoyingly self indulgent other than one random Caravan song I liked. Need to check out Focus, don't think I've ever heard them. Do you have any recommendations of prog rock bands that I might have missed that aren't totally self indulgent?

Rush. 

Their back catalogue is pretty big, but Moving Pictures is widely held to be their high point, and it is very accessible.

I also like some of the “newer” prog bands. Marillion have done some great stuff (Misplaced Childhood and Clutching at straws) and Dream Theater mix it well with Metal (Images and Words). But of course, if you don’t like prog, they will sound awful to you! Quite a lot of Phish has a prog element to it, but the live albums are the way to go (A Live One is a good place to start).

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32 minutes ago, found home in 2009 said:

Dark Side of the Moon is one of my favourite albums ever, but all prog rock that I've heard by anyone that's not Pink Floyd just sounds annoyingly self indulgent other than one random Caravan song I liked. Need to check out Focus, don't think I've ever heard them. Do you have any recommendations of prog rock bands that I might have missed that aren't totally self indulgent?

The Peter Gabriel era Genesis albums are (mostly) good. I’d recommend ‘Selling England By The Pound’ as a great entry point - it’s accessible whilst having some of their marquee prog songs (Firth of Fifth, Cinema Show etc), and their first ‘hit’ (I Know What I Like).

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A fairy niche opinion, but Rick Beato from the YouTube's series "what makes this song great" is no such thing. He just describes the song, but never seems to offer any insights into why the compositional decisions are effective. Deeply frustrating video series.

But his son's pitch recognition is terrifyingly good, I'll give him that.

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2 minutes ago, stuartbert two hats said:

A fairy niche opinion, but Rick Beato from the YouTube's series "what makes this song great" is no such thing. He just describes the song, but never seems to offer any insights into why the compositional decisions are effective. Deeply frustrating video series.

But his son's pitch recognition is terrifyingly good, I'll give him that.

What makes this song stink is waaay better. And funnier.

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1 hour ago, maelzoid said:

Rush. 

Their back catalogue is pretty big, but Moving Pictures is widely held to be their high point, and it is very accessible.

I also like some of the “newer” prog bands. Marillion have done some great stuff (Misplaced Childhood and Clutching at straws) and Dream Theater mix it well with Metal (Images and Words). But of course, if you don’t like prog, they will sound awful to you! Quite a lot of Phish has a prog element to it, but the live albums are the way to go (A Live One is a good place to start).

Are Muse prog? 

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Haha, I’ve spent the last 40 years having progressive (hate the name prog) rock as a guilty secret, furtively buying prog rock magazine as if it was some sort of extreme niche porn .  I feel liberated admitting it on here.  Now I’m away to listen to a Yes track, and not on headphones either,  back in half an hour.😉

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2 hours ago, blutarsky said:

Are Muse prog? 

I don’t think so. I guess it depends on your criteria. I tend to think of longer songs with multiple sections, changes in time-signatures, keys and styles. But even that’s a generalisation.

I guess Exogenesis Symphony is prog. But it’s not their defining sound.

they’re prog-ish…?

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37 minutes ago, maelzoid said:

I don’t think so. I guess it depends on your criteria. I tend to think of longer songs with multiple sections, changes in time-signatures, keys and styles. But even that’s a generalisation.

I guess Exogenesis Symphony is prog. But it’s not their defining sound.

they’re prog-ish…?

 

1 hour ago, Dales said:

Yes, just like Foals.

 

2 hours ago, priest17 said:

Muse are better than Pink Floyd.

 

2 hours ago, Ayrshire Chris said:

Wash your mouth out 

So that’s cleared up, Muse are prog. 

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19 minutes ago, blutarsky said:

 

 

 

So that’s cleared up, Muse are prog. 

Well I will wait until they release a triple concept album with six tracks including a 15 minute drum  solo that includes giant gongs and then I will concede they are truly progressive. Meanwhile I will stick to in the court of the Crimson  King,  the zenith of the genre.  Toyahs husband at his best. 

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4 minutes ago, Ayrshire Chris said:

Well I will wait until they release a triple concept album with six tracks including a 15 minute drum  solo that includes giant gongs and then I will concede they are truly progressive. Meanwhile I will stick to in the court of the Crimson  King,  the zenith of the genre.  Toyahs husband at his best. 

Sounds like some shit they’d pull 

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I think the below quote sums Muse up nicely and has stuck in my mind. I do like Muse, so not knocking them but they are prog with out the very worst excesses.

"Muse are a prog band dressed up like a rock band, minus all the things that present day audiences have come to associate with prog-rock unpleasantness, such as extended synth solos or songs about elves".

I stiil think its only a matter of time before we get an album by them about Ents & Hobbits but set in space.

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6 hours ago, found home in 2009 said:

Dark Side of the Moon is one of my favourite albums ever, but all prog rock that I've heard by anyone that's not Pink Floyd just sounds annoyingly self indulgent other than one random Caravan song I liked. Need to check out Focus, don't think I've ever heard them. Do you have any recommendations of prog rock bands that I might have missed that aren't totally self indulgent?

I would recommend Porcupine Tree (and Steven Wilson solo) 

It’s more modern than all the 70s stuff and personally I think every single album, including Wilson solo, is an absolute classic.

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