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I don’t think AM have a bad album. Some I come back to more than others. I don’t listen to them much anymore because I remember absolutely caning them in the lead up to Glastonbury and pretty much till the end of 2014. They were by far the biggest band going at that time. AM was absolutely massive.

I don’t dislike AM, in fact some of their best live material is from that album. I think it just feels overexposed.

Tranquillity was a weird era for the band. They picked up so many fans from AM they just didn’t do anything with. If they came back with another super commercial record I reckon we’d be speaking about them completely different now. Tranquillity left a bad taste in people’s mouths and to leave their fans for such a long time until the next one I do wonder what their future is.

(It will have no effect on their size or ability to play big gigs, but I just wonder what their credibility will look like going forward).

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2 hours ago, Matt42 said:

I don’t think AM have a bad album. Some I come back to more than others. I don’t listen to them much anymore because I remember absolutely caning them in the lead up to Glastonbury and pretty much till the end of 2014. They were by far the biggest band going at that time. AM was absolutely massive.

I don’t dislike AM, in fact some of their best live material is from that album. I think it just feels overexposed.

Tranquillity was a weird era for the band. They picked up so many fans from AM they just didn’t do anything with. If they came back with another super commercial record I reckon we’d be speaking about them completely different now. Tranquillity left a bad taste in people’s mouths and to leave their fans for such a long time until the next one I do wonder what their future is.

(It will have no effect on their size or ability to play big gigs, but I just wonder what their credibility will look like going forward).

Ultimately I think fans who didn't like it at first will either shrug it off and think "that was a strange detour" or they'll go back to it and enjoy it more on each listen (this is me). I don't think there's going to be a bad aftertaste at all. At worst it's just a bit of a set-piece in their history.

Most following them have twigged by now that they evolve musically at such a rate that they're not gonna stop and pander to fans of the last album, or the first album. Maybe AM fortuitously being a massive hit amplified the disappointment in some corners (much like Humbug at the time) but I don't think their fanbase is going anywhere this time.

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2 hours ago, Matt42 said:

I don’t think AM have a bad album. Some I come back to more than others. I don’t listen to them much anymore because I remember absolutely caning them in the lead up to Glastonbury and pretty much till the end of 2014. They were by far the biggest band going at that time. AM was absolutely massive.

I don’t dislike AM, in fact some of their best live material is from that album. I think it just feels overexposed.

Tranquillity was a weird era for the band. They picked up so many fans from AM they just didn’t do anything with. If they came back with another super commercial record I reckon we’d be speaking about them completely different now. Tranquillity left a bad taste in people’s mouths and to leave their fans for such a long time until the next one I do wonder what their future is.

(It will have no effect on their size or ability to play big gigs, but I just wonder what their credibility will look like going forward).

I feel you read far too much into things pal. You’re always trying to spin a narrative where there isn’t one to be spun.

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51 minutes ago, dentalplan said:

Ultimately I think fans who didn't like it at first will either shrug it off and think "that was a strange detour" or they'll go back to it and enjoy it more on each listen (this is me). I don't think there's going to be a bad aftertaste at all. At worst it's just a bit of a set-piece in their history.

Most following them have twigged by now that they evolve musically at such a rate that they're not gonna stop and pander to fans of the last album, or the first album. Maybe AM fortuitously being a massive hit amplified the disappointment in some corners (much like Humbug at the time) but I don't think their fanbase is going anywhere this time.

You’re right. All they need is a good lead single and they are back to where they were. 

 

40 minutes ago, Hugh Jass said:

I feel you read far too much into things pal. You’re always trying to spin a narrative where there isn’t one to be spun.

Probably. I am interested in the future of the band though. It’s getting harder to predict what direction they will go in next. I think Tranquility proved that they are not afraid to really shake it up.

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3 minutes ago, dentalplan said:

Nah. You can say a lot of things about the Arctic Monkeys but saying they’ve just churned out music in the same style for their entire career isn’t one.

Spot on, CalGon loves to shit on AM despite most of his criticisms not actually being valid…

Albums 1 & 2: “chip shop rock” (their phrase)

Album 3: Desert rock with Homme producing

Album 4: Softer and slightly more psychedelic.

Album 5: More mainstream indie with hints of hip hop beats and harder rock sounds.

Album 6: Avant garde French cinema

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24 minutes ago, Hugh Jass said:

Spot on, CalGon loves to shit on AM despite most of his criticisms not actually being valid…

Albums 1 & 2: “chip shop rock” (their phrase)

Album 3: Desert rock with Homme producing

Album 4: Softer and slightly more psychedelic.

Album 5: More mainstream indie with hints of hip hop beats and harder rock sounds.

Album 6: Avant garde French cinema

You could stick a knife between albums 1 and 2 and say how FWN has a solid dance-punk angle to it as well.

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49 minutes ago, Hugh Jass said:

Spot on, CalGon loves to shit on AM despite most of his criticisms not actually being valid…

Albums 1 & 2: “chip shop rock” (their phrase)

Album 3: Desert rock with Homme producing

Album 4: Softer and slightly more psychedelic.

Album 5: More mainstream indie with hints of hip hop beats and harder rock sounds.

Album 6: Avant garde French cinema

I hear what you're saying, but there used to be a time when bands would cover that amount of ground in a single album...

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12 minutes ago, Hugh Jass said:

What time was that?

Surely everybody remembers that album where Love Me Do sat side by side with Revolution 9.

(granted that doesn’t really work given the nature of the other songs on the White Album…)

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41 minutes ago, dentalplan said:

You could stick a knife between albums 1 and 2 and say how FWN has a solid dance-punk angle to it as well.

Not meaning to stir the pot, but if memory serves, don't you hate FWN? Think you referred to it before as a total dud follow-up, but it might have been tongue in cheek.

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8 minutes ago, Ddiamondd said:

Not meaning to stir the pot, but if memory serves, don't you hate FWN? Think you referred to it before as a total dud follow-up, but it might have been tongue in cheek.

Yes I do

edit: when I say ‘solid’ I don’t mean good I mean tangible, figuratively speaking

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26 minutes ago, maelzoid said:

I knew someone would ask me this... er.... the seventies...?

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It would be fucking exhausting if everyone aimed for that.

Also doesn't really back up CalGons point that AM aren't doing this 3 decades later (along with nearly everyone else).

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4 minutes ago, priest17 said:

It would be fucking exhausting if everyone aimed for that.

 

Exactly, not every band has to be pumping "worthy" challenging stuff out with every release.

Some acts do what they do well, AM have nailed the large scale crowd pleasing indie thing, you've usually got a pretty good idea what you're going to get from them, and that's just fine. 

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5 minutes ago, Hugh Jass said:

Some acts do what they do well, AM have nailed the large scale crowd pleasing indie thing, you've usually got a pretty good idea what you're going to get from them, and that's just fine. 

But their last album isn’t that at all? That’s the point people are trying to make, they’re not just churning out the same album with a few big singles every couple of years.

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