Hugh Jass Posted May 7, 2021 Report Share Posted May 7, 2021 3 minutes ago, Quark said: Manson Mozza (Smiths) ??? The Don’t Stop Till You Get Enough lad... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaledonianGonzo Posted May 7, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 7, 2021 Just now, Homer said: There is a perfectly reasonable explanation as to why Teenage Fanclub haven't played Glastonbury since 1993. I'm sure there is. Somewhere. But we've just never found out what it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Quark Posted May 7, 2021 Report Share Posted May 7, 2021 1 minute ago, Hugh Jass said: The Don’t Stop Till You Get Enough lad... Published 2013, so don't think anything new has come out since then has it? He's an interesting case when it comes to those kinds of conversations though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaledonianGonzo Posted May 7, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 7, 2021 3 minutes ago, blutarsky said: Is Grand Prix in there - cos as my man just said said that is their best album. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Jass Posted May 7, 2021 Report Share Posted May 7, 2021 3 minutes ago, Quark said: Published 2013, so don't think anything new has come out since then has it? He's an interesting case when it comes to those kinds of conversations though. Weren’t the two guys who were making allegations on that documentary post-2013? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaledonianGonzo Posted May 7, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 7, 2021 "A band for which the word "quirky" may have been invented" Crazy old TFC with their quirky antics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quark Posted May 7, 2021 Report Share Posted May 7, 2021 Just now, Hugh Jass said: Weren’t the two guys who were making allegations on that documentary post-2013? Ah maybe. But fundamentally has anything changed in terms of judgement or acceptance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Jass Posted May 7, 2021 Report Share Posted May 7, 2021 Jackson certainly is an interesting case, and I don’t really want to derail this thread over “did he/didn’t he?” It’s a grey area, whereas Glitter and Watkins were convicted and their crimes so grave that they deserve nothing less than airbrushing out of popular culture, Jackson was never convicted of anything. There will always be a question mark hanging over him and his legacy and with him now dead we will most likely never know definitively whether he did the things he was accused of or not. I know some media outlets play his stuff and others choose not to. I think it boils down to personal choice, for me personally I no longer feel comfortable playing his records so I choose not to. But I fully accept others may feel differently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Jass Posted May 7, 2021 Report Share Posted May 7, 2021 3 minutes ago, Quark said: Ah maybe. But fundamentally has anything changed in terms of judgement or acceptance? I think perception has shifted significantly since that documentary. I think a lot more people are convinced of his guilt now than before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikkic Posted May 7, 2021 Report Share Posted May 7, 2021 8 minutes ago, Hugh Jass said: Jackson certainly is an interesting case, and I don’t really want to derail this thread over “did he/didn’t he?” It’s a grey area, whereas Glitter and Watkins were convicted and their crimes so grave that they deserve nothing less than airbrushing out of popular culture, Jackson was never convicted of anything. There will always be a question mark hanging over him and his legacy and with him now dead we will most likely never know definitively whether he did the things he was accused of or not. I know some media outlets play his stuff and others choose not to. I think it boils down to personal choice, for me personally I no longer feel comfortable playing his records so I choose not to. But I fully accept others may feel differently. Saville was never convicted either. I’m all for innocent until proven guilty, but there’s 2 cases I’ll make an exception. Plus, Jacko only ever had 2 good albums and was massively over rated. He’s basically Oasis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Jass Posted May 7, 2021 Report Share Posted May 7, 2021 2 minutes ago, nikkic said: Saville was never convicted either. I’m all for innocent until proven guilty, but there’s 2 cases I’ll make an exception. Plus, Jacko only ever had 2 good albums and was massively over rated. He’s basically Oasis. Saville may never have been formally convicted but the sheer weight of evidence that came to light after his death made his guilt beyond reasonable doubt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sedra Posted May 7, 2021 Report Share Posted May 7, 2021 25 minutes ago, Homer said: There is a perfectly reasonable explanation as to why Teenage Fanclub haven't played Glastonbury since 1993. I wish I knew what it was as I have been waiting for TFC to play since then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaledonianGonzo Posted May 7, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 7, 2021 1 minute ago, sedra said: I wish I knew what it was as I have been waiting for TFC to play since then. Norman and Euros played in like 2011....? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikkic Posted May 7, 2021 Report Share Posted May 7, 2021 4 minutes ago, Hugh Jass said: Saville may never have been formally convicted but the sheer weight of evidence that came to light after his death made his guilt beyond reasonable doubt. But Jacko was a nonce too right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Jass Posted May 7, 2021 Report Share Posted May 7, 2021 Just now, nikkic said: But Jacko was a nonce too right? On balance of probabilities I think he probably was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaledonianGonzo Posted May 7, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 7, 2021 When you come in ready to debate whether you prefer Norman's or Gerry's songs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaledonianGonzo Posted May 7, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 7, 2021 Clearly Gerry though am I right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punksnotdead Posted May 7, 2021 Report Share Posted May 7, 2021 6 minutes ago, sedra said: I wish I knew what it was as I have been waiting for TFC to play since then. 100%. The Fannies on The Park in the sunshine would be amazing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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stuartbert two hats Posted May 7, 2021 Report Share Posted May 7, 2021 25 minutes ago, Hugh Jass said: Jackson certainly is an interesting case, and I don’t really want to derail this thread over “did he/didn’t he?” It’s a grey area, whereas Glitter and Watkins were convicted and their crimes so grave that they deserve nothing less than airbrushing out of popular culture, Jackson was never convicted of anything. There will always be a question mark hanging over him and his legacy and with him now dead we will most likely never know definitively whether he did the things he was accused of or not. I know some media outlets play his stuff and others choose not to. I think it boils down to personal choice, for me personally I no longer feel comfortable playing his records so I choose not to. But I fully accept others may feel differently. The other problem is that Jackson's music is much better. Turns out it was easy to stop playing Gary Glitter songs and U wouldn't know a Lost Prophets tune if you slapped me in the face with it. There's not really that much doubt about Jackson, but it's easy to tell yourself there is when Billie Jean plays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikkic Posted May 7, 2021 Report Share Posted May 7, 2021 2 minutes ago, stuartbert two hats said: The other problem is that Jackson's music is much better. Turns out it was easy to stop playing Gary Glitter songs and U wouldn't know a Lost Prophets tune if you slapped me in the face with it. There's not really that much doubt about Jackson, but it's easy to tell yourself there is when Billie Jean plays. Can’t listen to PYT knowing is was probably written about Macaulay Culkin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blutarsky Posted May 7, 2021 Report Share Posted May 7, 2021 (edited) 49 minutes ago, CaledonianGonzo said: Is Grand Prix in there - cos as my man just said said that is their best album. That’s the only Teenage Fanclub on there. Screamadelica in the facing page. Edited May 7, 2021 by blutarsky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuartbert two hats Posted May 7, 2021 Report Share Posted May 7, 2021 11 minutes ago, nikkic said: Can’t listen to PYT knowing is was probably written about Macaulay Culkin. PYT? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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