kingbadger Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 25 minutes ago, Mattymooz said: But I think you've proven my point with what you have said too. No one was claiming Radiohead were a poor choice of headliner when they were announced even though they have similar headliner issues to Billie. I think I disagree on Billie's backcatalogue - She has had a lot more mainstream radio success than Stormzy or Radiohead have had, think there is comfortably a setlist there full of stuff people would love. She has a comfortable mix of more lowkey numbers and ragers to keep the party going - lowkey numbers aren't always a problem, Adele went down well and people were clamouring for Taylor to come back after folklore. And on your last comment, I agree. Every act that is booked has this issue - but for some reason people are seemingly a lot more negative to Billie's chances than to most other peoples. Thing is Radiohead are an established band with 25+ years history, and had two previously acclaimed Glastonbury sets behind them. I'm in no way saying that Billie isn't Pyramid headline material by the way- I'm glad she's got the gig from a progressive point of view, even though her music isn't for me. I'm just purely speculating (pretty wildly) on how it'll be received, as after all that's what this forum is for. I'm just hoping she can make it a spectacle ala Adele as you mentioned, and can smash it out of the park. But I don't think it's misogynistic or overly negative to point out that Billie will probably have a more uphill battle than most to put on a GOAT set. The same way people thought Stormzy was a good pick but also had reservations due to a lack of material, whether people's mums know him etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilgamesh69 Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 Mad how people would say Sad Bob and the Lads aren't pyramid headliner material, but will go out of their way to defend the possibility of Billie headlining Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jparx Posted September 30, 2021 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Gilgamesh69 said: Mad how people would say Sad Bob and the Lads aren't pyramid headliner material, but will go out of their way to defend the possibility of Billie headlining I don't think any of that is happening here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotchilidog Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 Billie will be a great headliner in my view, an exciting young artist who is constantly evolving and yet to reach her peak. Shame about the sound for her Other Stage set but I still enjoyed it. Not a nailed on must see for me, but I think there is a very good chance I will be there to see her if indeed she does get the Pyramid gig. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuartbert two hats Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 (edited) It's worth remembering that Glastonbury last happened fucking years ago. EDIT: What I mean is, Billie's demographic has probably shifted since then and will continue to shift until next summer. Edited September 30, 2021 by stuartbert two hats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprefan Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 6 hours ago, Matt42 said: Reckon the setlist from firefly would go down a treat. I don’t agree with the misogyny points but I do think the barometer for her is being set absurdly high and there are a few people reading down all of her achievements. They are using her 2019 as a stick to beat her with, completely ruling out her improving or the fact she was literally 16 at the time. Life is Beautiful and Governors Ball were the same. Next up is Austin City Limits this weekend. So she gets to headline one of the Big 4. There will likely be a livestream on youtube. And to top it all off, the weather is going to be unfavorable. Lots of rain forecast, so its gonna be muddy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt42 Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 4 minutes ago, stuartbert two hats said: It's worth remembering that Glastonbury last happened fucking years ago. EDIT: What I mean is, Billie's demographic has probably shifted since then and will continue to shift until next summer. If billies fans are so fickle why is she still selling out the same dates in 2021/2022 then she was in 2019? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuartbert two hats Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Matt42 said: If billies fans are so fickle why is she still selling out the same dates in 2021/2022 then she was in 2019? I meant she's gained new fans. For instance, I'd never stuck on of her albums one before 2019, but I have now. Edited September 30, 2021 by stuartbert two hats 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChemicalBrother Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 Billie isn’t my cup of tea & frankly I don’t think she’s meant to be my cup of tea - but I’d rather have her headline than keep rolling out the same old Coldplay/Radiohead/Muse/ Cure etc, because if you keep rolling them out, you’ll keep getting the same attendees & the festival eventually stagnates. it’s the young headliners like Billie that keep the festival fresh & opens it to a new wave of young audiences. Even if her demographic may not be there in numbers, at least it puts the idea of attending Glastonbury in the future somewhere on her demographic’s radar. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morph100 Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 Liam G announcement tomorrow at 8:30 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt42 Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 Just now, morph100 said: Liam G announcement tomorrow at 8:30 Hmm rock Werchter have an announcement tomorrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprefan Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 (edited) 47 minutes ago, ChemicalBrother said: Billie isn’t my cup of tea & frankly I don’t think she’s meant to be my cup of tea - but I’d rather have her headline than keep rolling out the same old Coldplay/Radiohead/Muse/ Cure etc, because if you keep rolling them out, you’ll keep getting the same attendees & the festival eventually stagnates. it’s the young headliners like Billie that keep the festival fresh & opens it to a new wave of young audiences. Even if her demographic may not be there in numbers, at least it puts the idea of attending Glastonbury in the future somewhere on her demographic’s radar. More or less this. But the idea of having newer and younger headliners always gets shit down because 90% of punters want their “rock n roll” And dont care about the Dua, Billie or Taylor’s of the world. I brought it up a while ago as to whats going to happen when the current batch of old legacy headliners is exhausted and you have to looking at artists who are 3 or 4 albums deep in their career for whats next. Cause are we going to consider somebody like Arcade Fire as a new legacy act because theyre in their early 40’s? Thats going to apply to lots of acts. I mean Arctic Monkeys are in their mid 30’s and have seemingly achieved legacy status with Glasto cause they headlined at 20 years old. And people seem to think Dave is set to be a fiture headliner and he is on album 2. So does the too early in the career only stick to a uk act that turned massive or the once in a blue moon transcenda t one like Billie. Edited September 30, 2021 by Suprefan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topmarksbri Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 54 minutes ago, ChemicalBrother said: Billie isn’t my cup of tea & frankly I don’t think she’s meant to be my cup of tea - but I’d rather have her headline than keep rolling out the same old Coldplay/Radiohead/Muse/ Cure etc, because if you keep rolling them out, you’ll keep getting the same attendees & the festival eventually stagnates. it’s the young headliners like Billie that keep the festival fresh & opens it to a new wave of young audiences. Even if her demographic may not be there in numbers, at least it puts the idea of attending Glastonbury in the future somewhere on her demographic’s radar. Agreed with all of this and I like that some nights I'm forced away from pyramid. It seems like they're in a good place with newer headliner (Stormzy, Beyonce, Ed Sheeran etc), a vintage/classic act (Stones, Macca, Cure) and an established act (Arctics, Killers, Coldplay). Obviously 2020 would have been different with taylor/king kenny in pot one but it's rare that there's not normally at least one headliner I'm keen on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprefan Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 I think Im more excited for the non Liam announcement tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt42 Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 22 minutes ago, Suprefan said: I think Im more excited for the non Liam announcement tomorrow. Didn’t you mean to post 👀👀👀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sisco Posted October 1, 2021 Report Share Posted October 1, 2021 11 hours ago, Matt42 said: Hmm rock Werchter have an announcement tomorrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprefan Posted October 1, 2021 Report Share Posted October 1, 2021 He had to play at Knebworth with everyone else. 😕 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt42 Posted October 1, 2021 Report Share Posted October 1, 2021 Give us the mother fucking poster. Knowing the headliners in September is both a blessing and a curse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jparx Posted October 1, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2021 (edited) Curious how they handle these announcements if it’s true we’ve got 3/4 main acts back. Do they address Taylor head on as not returning for 2022 or just announce each act in turn (Macca first I’d reckon) and let it speak for itself? Can see the Billie announcement causing some disappointment when it becomes clear she’s the Taylor the replacement if it’s not handled properly. Might not matter in the grand scheme though. Edited October 1, 2021 by jparx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt42 Posted October 1, 2021 Report Share Posted October 1, 2021 Just now, jparx said: Curious how they handle these announcements if it’s true we’ve got 3/4 main acts back. Do they address Taylor head on as not returning for 2022 or just announce each act in turn (Macca first I’d reckon) and let it speak for itself? Can see the Billie announcing causing some disappointment when it becomes clear she’s the Taylor the replacement if it’s not handled properly. Might not matter in the grand scheme though. I think it’s more likely that the festival will let things speak for itself, but I can imagine them announcing Billie as she’s the “new” headliner of the batch. Without being pedantic though I’d say festival goers are used to not getting 100% of their 2020 lineups back so it wouldn’t go down as bad as you think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jparx Posted October 1, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2021 6 minutes ago, Matt42 said: I think it’s more likely that the festival will let things speak for itself, but I can imagine them announcing Billie as she’s the “new” headliner of the batch. Without being pedantic though I’d say festival goers are used to not getting 100% of their 2020 lineups back so it wouldn’t go down as bad as you think. Maybe - not sure if I've seen many festivals retain 3/4 of their headliners though? Sticks out as a bit more obvious! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Jass Posted October 1, 2021 Report Share Posted October 1, 2021 Pretty sure Macca jumped the gun in terms of announcing last time. If he’s now signed up he might just announce himself again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supernintendo Chalmers Posted October 1, 2021 Report Share Posted October 1, 2021 Extremely difficult to argue with a Sunday that includes Diana Ross and Paul McCartney on the same bill regardless of your musical taste. Arguably worth the admission fee alone. Enjoy these artists while you can, the list of comparable acts grows smaller by the year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morph100 Posted October 1, 2021 Report Share Posted October 1, 2021 Any betting sites taking bets on headliners? Think we could make some educated guesses now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt42 Posted October 1, 2021 Report Share Posted October 1, 2021 10 minutes ago, morph100 said: Any betting sites taking bets on headliners? Think we could make some educated guesses now Absolutely none. Bet365 said they were not going to be taking bets this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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