Rolling Chance of Glastonbury 2022 Thread

[Leyrulion]

7 hours ago, whitehorses said:

Pretty big %age of Glastonbury’s audience are against vaccinations,

Citation needed. 

 

I think it's likely they'll be planning to require proof of a negative test or vaccination for entry, they might not actually use it given how things are progressing.

 

[whitehorses]

6 hours ago, Leyrulion said:

Citation needed. 

 

I think it's likely they'll be planning to require proof of a negative test or vaccination for entry, they might not actually use it given how things are progressing.

 

Don’t think need a citation for merely noticing that vast numbers of various counter cultures, yoga, ‘natural’ well being movements, those sometimes known as ‘hippies’ and so on are very vocal against vaccinations. 

Even if we imagined that Glastonbury perfectly reflected wider society then only 70% (unsure of latest figure) or so would have been fully vaxxed. Making ~60k people there unvaxxed (assuming 200k). I personally don’t think they’ll bother with vaccinations as a condition of entry because why would they if all restrictions are gone. 

Of course can’t give a citation for any of that so I’ll just retract it and you can bask in the glory of an internet victory. 🏆

[sime]

53 minutes ago, whitehorses said:

Don’t think need a citation for merely noticing that vast numbers of various counter cultures, yoga, ‘natural’ well being movements, those sometimes known as ‘hippies’ and so on are very vocal against vaccinations.

All the 'hippies' I know are fully vaxxed. It's a few of my more 'professional' and right wing leaning acquaintances who are against it. 

[whitehorses]

20 minutes ago, sime said:

All the 'hippies' I know are fully vaxxed. It's a few of my more 'professional' and right wing leaning acquaintances who are against it. 

Well if we’re trading anecdotes my ‘hippy’ neighbours who work in the theatre field aren’t vaxxed and - so they say - are none of their friends. I also have plenty of ‘professional’ and right wing acquaintances who aren’t vaxxed, but I was imagining they’re less of the Glasto audience (maybe wrongly). 
 

*given the price tag these days maybe there’s an even bigger spread of anti vaxxers across the Glasto population than I’d previously thought 🙂

Edited February 13, 2022 by whitehorses
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[parsonjack]

17 hours ago, AlexOvd said:

Testing one day before is scary AF.

Unless it's a supervised test, which it won't be, then nothing to stop folks (other than the morality of it) from simply registering a 'negative' test on their NHS app and schlepping in.  It's already known to be a loophole, which is partly why Boris is suggesting ditching legal requirement to isolate a month early.

[AlexOvd]

8 minutes ago, parsonjack said:

Unless it's a supervised test, which it won't be, then nothing to stop folks (other than the morality of it) from simply registering a 'negative' test on their NHS app and schlepping in.  It's already known to be a loophole, which is partly why Boris is suggesting ditching legal requirement to isolate a month early.

But the NHS app is only for the ones who live in the UK, not foreigners I guess. 

[Deaf Nobby Burton]

Not a chance vaccination will be a condition of entry, as stated above about 30% of the population aren’t vaccinated and it would create a logistical nightmare they just don’t need. It’s doubtful you’d even need a test.

[parsonjack]

5 minutes ago, AlexOvd said:

But the NHS app is only for the ones who live in the UK, not foreigners I guess. 

True....but unless UK reintroduced a Day 2/8 testing requirement which required a supervised test for people entering UK then the same loophole exists I guess.  

[kalifire]

I’m guessing we’ll know about any additional entry requirements in a couple of weeks. I doubt they’d allow people to make balance payments without being up front about the need to be vaccinated or tested. 

I’d love them to make vaccination (or evidence of legitimate exemption) a condition of entry, personally. Maybe it’ll force some of those “my own research” w*nkers who haven’t bothered to step up and do it, and keep the site a bit safer for the rest of us. 

Edited February 13, 2022 by kalifire

[Leyrulion]

Not to get into it but I just want to counter the misinformation above. 92% of the population over 12 has had at least one dose of vaccine. Booster programme is a little way behind that but not everyone is currently eligibile for 3 doses.

Anti vaxxers are a very very tiny minority of the population.

 

As I said, they'll be at least putting plans in to be able to have the infrastructure for covid test/vaccine checking should they need to. Very probable that they won't.

[parsonjack]

Not sure if anyone else noticed but there is new Event Management Plan posted here with Melvyn Benn's name on it.  No mention within it of anything Covid related. 

https://www.mendip.gov.uk/article/7467/Glastonbury-Festival-Licensing-and-Event-Management-Information

[Freddyflintstonree]

3 hours ago, Leyrulion said:

Not to get into it but I just want to counter the misinformation above. 92% of the population over 12 has had at least one dose of vaccine. Booster programme is a little way behind that but not everyone is currently eligibile for 3 doses.

Anti vaxxers are a very very tiny minority of the population.

 

As I said, they'll be at least putting plans in to be able to have the infrastructure for covid test/vaccine checking should they need to. Very probable that they won't.

8% is not a very very tiny minority, to be fair. And that's one jab. You're looking at 35% of people are missing at least the booster. 

Edit: badly worded, removed 'if not more' from final sentence. 

Edited February 13, 2022 by Freddyflintstonree

[efcfanwirral]

20 minutes ago, Big durbs said:

Very strange as It was widely thought that Melvyn was brought back on board to get the Covid issue covered 

I guess they had to plan ahead for if it was needed, but with the knowledge it might not be needed. Currently its not needed but 4 months is a long time 

[Barnabybear]

Oxfam have stated they are taking more stewards than ever before. That suggests to me the extra stewarding capacity could be for increased covid checks of one sort or another. 

[Leyrulion]

1 hour ago, Freddyflintstonree said:

8% is not a very very tiny minority, to be fair. And that's one jab. You're looking at 35% of people are missing at least the booster. 

Edit: badly worded, removed 'if not more' from final sentence. 

We'll disagree on the interpretation of the numbers, like I said don't want to get into it. Just correcting misinformation.

[stuie]

12 hours ago, whitehorses said:

Don’t think need a citation for merely noticing that vast numbers of various counter cultures, yoga, ‘natural’ well being movements, those sometimes known as ‘hippies’ and so on are very vocal against vaccinations. 

Even if we imagined that Glastonbury perfectly reflected wider society then only 70% (unsure of latest figure) or so would have been fully vaxxed. Making ~60k people there unvaxxed (assuming 200k). I personally don’t think they’ll bother with vaccinations as a condition of entry because why would they if all restrictions are gone. 

Of course can’t give a citation for any of that so I’ll just retract it and you can bask in the glory of an internet victory. 🏆

We are currently at 90% of UK people over 12 have had a first dose.  Therefore it’s reasonable to expect by June, 90% will be fully vaccinated. 

It won’t be a condition of entry though, I agree. 

[sime]

12 hours ago, whitehorses said:

Well if we’re trading anecdotes my ‘hippy’ neighbours who work in the theatre field aren’t vaxxed and - so they say - are none of their friends. I also have plenty of ‘professional’ and right wing acquaintances who aren’t vaxxed, but I was imagining they’re less of the Glasto audience (maybe wrongly). 
 

*given the price tag these days maybe there’s an even bigger spread of anti vaxxers across the Glasto population than I’d previously thought 🙂

I'd guess that more people at the festival will be vaxxed than not. But we are both just making assumptions. 

[John the Moth]

3 hours ago, stuie said:

We are currently at 90% of UK people over 12 have had a first dose.  Therefore it’s reasonable to expect by June, 90% will be fully vaccinated. 

It won’t be a condition of entry though, I agree. 

 

7 hours ago, efcfanwirral said:

I guess they had to plan ahead for if it was needed, but with the knowledge it might not be needed. Currently its not needed but 4 months is a long time 

From the ticket info page on the website... “may” is the operative word though and I believe when the time comes, this won’t be enforced.

btw 100%
 

[Ayrshire Chris]

11 hours ago, John the Moth said:

 

From the ticket info page on the website... “may” is the operative word though and I believe when the time comes, this won’t be enforced.

btw 100%
 

As long as those travelling from New Zealand don’t expect James Blunt songs playing as they queue up to get in I’m sure there will be no problems 😉. What a cruel way to break up a demonstration. Water cannons and riot cops would be less terrifying. 

[blutarsky]

On 2/13/2022 at 9:17 PM, sime said:

I'd guess that more people at the festival will be vaxxed than not. But we are both just making assumptions. 

Not very bold with your guesses! >90% population vaxxed means it is virtually impossible there'll be a majority of non-vaxxed punters. 

Anyway, this ain't no covid thread. 

The festival will be on.

100%

Aside: there are some amazing Trump gifs but I can't find a stop the count one 

[sime]

12 hours ago, blutarsky said:

Not very bold with your guesses! >90% population vaxxed means it is virtually impossible there'll be a majority of non-vaxxed punters. 

Anyway, this ain't no covid thread. 

The festival will be on.

100%

Aside: there are some amazing Trump gifs but I can't find a stop the count one 

Bold? No. Trying to be reasonable? Yes.

I would love for everyone at the festival to be vaxxed. But I'm no dummy and understand there will unfortunately be anti-vaxxers there too. Although agreed, not that many thankfully.

Do I think the festival will still take place? Absolutely. 100%

 

Edited February 15, 2022 by sime

[Havors]

10 hours ago, sime said:

Bold? No. Trying to be reasonable? Yes.

I would love for everyone at the festival to be vaxxed. But I'm no dummy and understand there will unfortunately be anti-vaxxers there too. Although agreed, not that many thankfully.

Do I think the festival will still take place? Absolutely. 100%

 

Have to take into account the average age of the festival goer too. The higher that is the higher the vax rate will be.. as is the way in the real world numbers. 

[dotdash79]

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[March Hare]

90% queen and war related concerns 

[fraybentos1]

20 minutes ago, Ddiamondd said:

20%

Was there any need to bump a month old thread for that...