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1 minute ago, kalifire said:

Wait, what? TW Classic is on Glastonbury Saturday next year, right? 25th June. So if Macca’s playing then, that means he’s out for Glastonbury? 

Unless he’s Sunday this time?

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2 minutes ago, kalifire said:

Wait, what? TW Classic is on Glastonbury Saturday next year, right? 25th June. So if Macca’s playing then, that means he’s out for Glastonbury? 

Sorry I got this wrong - that’s just the nick date. Paul will be at a different date.

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6 minutes ago, kalifire said:

Wait, what? TW Classic is on Glastonbury Saturday next year, right? 25th June. So if Macca’s playing then, that means he’s out for Glastonbury? 

He was meant to play there the week before Glastonbury in 2020, possibly the same again. If he’s touring Europe next summer he’ll be at Glastonbury.

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I return to eFests for the for time in ages and @kalifire put the shits up me within about 30 seconds. Love it.

8 minutes ago, kalifire said:

Wait, what? TW Classic is on Glastonbury Saturday next year, right? 25th June. So if Macca’s playing then, that means he’s out for Glastonbury? 

 

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So Macca looks in, and the feeling seems to be that Taylor will too (despite little concrete and evidence).

All eyes on Kenny now.

My take would be that Billie has been asked to keep that weekend free just in case. Her people have probably thought that while she’s waiting they squeeze another O2 show in so it’s not a complete waste if she’s not called.

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10 minutes ago, Hugh Jass said:

So Macca looks in, and the feeling seems to be that Taylor will too (despite little concrete and evidence).

All eyes on Kenny now.

My take would be that Billie has been asked to keep that weekend free just in case. Her people have probably thought that while she’s waiting they squeeze another O2 show in so it’s not a complete waste if she’s not called.

I like this. Squeeze a date in on the Saturday because that is when Macca is set to play. 

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43 minutes ago, Matt42 said:

Guys Macca isn’t out. He won’t be playing the same date as Nick Cave

TW Classic is like BST.

There's usually only one TW Classic each year (because you need a really big name for such a mass event), but due to the large selection of names, there will be two of those. One will be headlined by Nick Cave, the other presumably by McCartney

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6 minutes ago, Hugh Jass said:

My take would be that Billie has been asked to keep that weekend free just in case. Her people have probably thought that while she’s waiting they squeeze another O2 show in so it’s not a complete waste if she’s not called.

Honestly, I don't think the festival has the kind of heft to make that kind of request - especially with artists that don't have a strong connection to the festival and that clearly hated being there last time they played.

She's in more than enough demand that if the Festival aren't prepare to book her outright, then she can tell them to piss off. I guess it's possible that after last time she wants a chance at redemption and so has been pushing to go back and is prepared to wait, but that seems like a long shot.

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1 minute ago, incident said:

Honestly, I don't think the festival has the kind of heft to make that kind of request - especially with artists that don't have a strong connection to the festival and that clearly hated being there last time they played.

She's in more than enough demand that if the Festival aren't prepare to book her outright, then she can tell them to piss off. I guess it's possible that after last time she wants a chance at redemption and so has been pushing to go back and is prepared to wait, but that seems like a long shot.

In an ordinary year yes, but I think most artists right now understand there is a 2 year backlog. Many artists are being turned away from stadium dates.

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Yeah, I don't think Billie is standing by for anyone at this stage. 

My tea leaves are telling me Taylor is on that Mad Cool lineup but embargoed, and she'll drop a load of dates in the next couple months.

Eyes on the likes of Roskilde and NOS to see if Kenny starts appearing. Roskilde look to be doing a smaller event this summer, so might be a bit longer until we get owt from them.

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1 minute ago, jparx said:

Yeah, I don't think Billie is standing by for anyone at this stage. 

My tea leaves are telling me Taylor is on that Mad Cool lineup but embargoed, and she'll drop a load of dates in the next couple months.

Eyes on the likes of Roskilde and NOS to see if Kenny starts appearing. Roskilde look to be doing a smaller event this summer, so might be a bit longer until we get owt from them.

Kendrick doesn’t seem to be jumping on any US shows which have been announced from July - October, so it says to me that he’s pushed everything back to 2022.

You all know i’d love Billie to be there but its starting to get really promising that the entire top line of Glasto 2020 could be rebooked (aside from lana at the mo).

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4 minutes ago, Matt42 said:

In an ordinary year yes, but I think most artists right now understand there is a 2 year backlog. Many artists are being turned away from stadium dates.

Even with that in mind - Glastonbury is still a gig that pays roughly 10%-25% of what she'd be earning at another festival or doing her own shows while still having similar overheads. So for her to agree to be "on standby", she'd have to really want to do Glastonbury specifically and I've no reason to believe that's likely to be the case.

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3 minutes ago, incident said:

Even with that in mind - Glastonbury is still a gig that pays roughly 10%-25% of what she'd be earning at another festival or doing her own shows while still having similar overheads. So for her to agree to be "on standby", she'd have to really want to do Glastonbury specifically and I've no reason to believe that's likely to be the case.

Whether or not Billie herself enjoyed her 2019 set (I think she did I don’t know what everyone is on about) her management will know that headlining Glastonbury is a big deal. We don’t live in a vacuum anymore, after seeing the likes of Taylor, Adele etc headlining they will know it’s something you jump at.

I think this low pay argument can be a bit reductive sometimes, as the current track record for bookings shows that US acts are absolutely knocking at the door of the festival to play. Maybe in the 90s, but not now.

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Just now, Matt42 said:

Whether or not Billie herself enjoyed her 2019 (I think she did I don’t know what everyone is on about) her management will know that headlining Glastonbury is a big deal. We don’t live in a vacuum anymore, after seeing the likes of Taylor, Adele etc headlining the thing they will know it’s something you jump at.

I think this low pay argument can be a bit reductive sometimes, as the current track record for bookings shows that US acts are absolutely knocking at the door of the festival to play.

Hold on, I'm not using the low pay argument to suggest the festival can't get headliners - just that acts at that level aren't going to sit around waiting for someone else to drop out.

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4 minutes ago, incident said:

Hold on, I'm not using the low pay argument to suggest the festival can't get headliners - just that acts at that level aren't going to sit around waiting for someone else to drop out.

I think it’s not waiting for someone to drop out but to see how it pans out. Her team have probably got the same story from everywhere when booking shows “we need to give the incumbent first refusal but if they don’t come back to us a slot is available” sort of thing. 

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1 hour ago, incident said:

Even with that in mind - Glastonbury is still a gig that pays roughly 10%-25% of what she'd be earning at another festival or doing her own shows while still having similar overheads. So for her to agree to be "on standby", she'd have to really want to do Glastonbury specifically and I've no reason to believe that's likely to be the case.

If she has a gap in her schedule anyway then all that she’s doing is keeping one date free ahead of potentially adding one more show.

All speculation of course but the conversation could go “keep that Friday free as we might need you. If not we’ll definitely book you the year after”.

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Just now, Woffy said:

I'm a bit out of the loop - what's the deal with LDR being unlikely?

I wouldn’t say she’s unlikely at this stage. There’s little to rule her in or out at the moment.

She barely toured NFR before having to cancel dates and has Chemtrails out now too. Would be surprised if she wasn’t touring next year.

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